I Think Norman Osborn Will Be Green Goblin in TASM2!

I Think Norman Osborn Will Be Green Goblin in TASM2!

Don't believe me? Come see why I think so.

Editorial Opinion
By VIRILEMAN - Feb 05, 2014 05:02 PM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man

Ok, I can't prove it beyond any reasonable doubt. But I'm telling you, Norman will be the Goblin.

When Osborn first appeared Stan Lee took great pains to conceal his identity. He teased readers for months and months on who it could be. It was a big part of what drew people to the character.

Fast forward to 90's. Spider-Man the animated series was on Fox. When the Goblin was being introduced in the show, in the same fashion as Stan had done, they with held the Goblin's identity once again. Most kids watching that show didn't know who the Goblin was. So they simply didn't tell the viewers for most of the episode that introduced the character. They finally revealed at the end that it was Norman in a *gasp* moment similar to the comics.

Jump to the early 2000's. The Ultimate Spider-Man comic book launched and gave us, in my not so humble opinion, the greatest Spider-Man comic of all time. Bendis, in keeping this tradition alive, made the Goblin a creature always bathed in shadows and mystery. We soon find out he is Norman Osborn. The same thing was done for Harry himself when Bendis turned him into a Goblin creature in the comics.

Fast forward again to the best Spider-Man cartoon we've ever had. The Spectacular Spider-Man. At this point most people knew that Norman is the Goblin because of the popular 2002 film. So it proved more difficult for the writers of the show to keep up this kind of story telling. But did that stop them? No. They tricked everyone (including me) into believing Harry was going to be the first Goblin in the show. And guess how that turned out:




So, with all this in mind you know where I'm coming from when I say, the Green Goblin has a long history of hiding his identity from the audience. It is a part of the characters long and established history. It is always a part of the story telling when doing the Green Goblin.

So what makes me so sure Marc Webb is doing it again in this new Spidey flick? A few things.

For one I've noticed they've been very careful not to give us a close up of Harry as the Goblin. We've seen close up and after close up of Rhino and Electro, but not Goblin.

The few times we've seen the Goblin in the trailers I've noticed he always looks out of place compared to the rest of the shot. Like he shouldn't be there. I think that's because he isn't suppose to be there. I think they put Harry as the Goblin in the trailers to throw us off much like the tv show did (also made by Sony I should add) did. And Sony has done this before. In the trailer for the original Spider-Man they used Spider-Man in full costume in the scene Spider-Man is jumping onto the robbers car as to keep secrete the story line. So the reason Harry looks so weird and out of place is because he is being used as a ruse to throw us off. There is no need to finish the shot with him in it because he eventually won't even be in the shot.


Two: Why haven't we seen a single toy for Harry as the Goblin? Why is that? Maybe because there are none.

Three: Both Dane DeHaan and Chris Cooper have been pretty quite about this film. We are always hearing from Emma, Andrew, and Jamie, but nothing from Dane and Chris. I think that's because they don't want to spill the beans.

Four: Why would Harry and Peter even be fighting? Harry has always gone after Peter in the comics and movies because Harry believed Peter was some how responsible for his fathers death and also hated how Peter stole some of his father's love from him. Obviously Peter won't kill Norman in this one, and Peter hasn't even met Norman yet for all that love/hate stuff to even start. So I ask again, why would Harry even fight Peter?

Five: The one shot we have of Harry "transforming" into the Goblin looks like it was filmed just for the trailer. How did I come to that conclusions? There is no context what-so-ever in the shot. All we get is a shot of Harry throwing his head back. I think they kept it simple because it's a shot done just to throw us off. Because if the shot included anything other than just a close up of Harry's head the shot would have been much more complicated. Remember they are very deliberate on what they show us and don't show us in the trailers.


Number Six: Why would Harry even take the goblin serum? His father needs it and he's dying. Why would Harry even bother taking the stuff? It's not like he believes Spider-Man killed his father like in Spider-Man 3. It makes no sense. You know what does make sense though? Norman taking the stuff to save his life and it making him go crazy.

And the biggest reason of all?

Number Seven: My gut says he isn't the Goblin. I've read Spider-Man comics and novels for decades, seen all the cartoons, played all the video games, own all the movies and even the 70's live action tv show (really not that bad IMO) and worn all the shirts (I'm wearing one right now!) And all these years of Spider-Man canon in my head tells my gut, Harry IS NOT the Goblin in this film, Norman Osborn is.
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DynamicDynamo
DynamicDynamo - 2/5/2014, 5:46 PM
This isn't news.
StarkLMD
StarkLMD - 2/5/2014, 5:46 PM
Stick this in editorials
SuperCat
SuperCat - 2/5/2014, 5:51 PM
Cayo
Cayo - 2/5/2014, 5:54 PM
This show's cancellation was the worst decision ever made by Marvel IMO. I couldn't care less for Ultimate Spiderman.
PhetVanBurton
PhetVanBurton - 2/5/2014, 5:57 PM
aaaand what about the shot of Harry as Goblin on the posters?
faver
faver - 2/5/2014, 6:06 PM
This was a fun read. I don't think you are right, but I wish you were.
frova
frova - 2/5/2014, 6:14 PM
this isn't news. this should be in editorials
Mrcool210
Mrcool210 - 2/5/2014, 6:15 PM
1. this is an editorial
2. you've seen the goblin from the posters and movie right? no way in [frick]ing hell is that chris cooper
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 2/5/2014, 6:18 PM
Interesting theory! They sure do like to perform the switcharoo in other Goblin stories.
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 2/5/2014, 6:19 PM
It could be photoshopped. Wont know for sure till they tell us or show us.
GeneralZod1138
GeneralZod1138 - 2/5/2014, 6:20 PM
You can see it's Harry on the posters, and the trailers.
GeneralZod1138
GeneralZod1138 - 2/5/2014, 6:24 PM
Number Six:

Harry will probably give Norman the serum, thinking it will save him, but it will make him sicker and/or kill him.
BenjiWest
BenjiWest - 2/5/2014, 6:42 PM
Agree on Ultimate Spiderman.
CaptainAmerica31
CaptainAmerica31 - 2/5/2014, 7:48 PM
I think in TASM2 it's Harry and later on it will be Norman. Hence the lack of " green" on Harry( like his face and lack of traditional look. I think Norman will be the GREEN goblin and not a goblin like Harry. I'm hoping for a cap on the Norman goblin rather than hair. They came close but ruined it with the hair
MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 2/5/2014, 8:27 PM
I think Norman Osborn's Green Goblin might be shown in the end credits scene of TASM 2 or will be a villain in TASM 3. I think it would be too soon for Norman Osborn to become the Green Goblin in TASM 2 due to the fact that film has a lot of villains.
superherofan21
superherofan21 - 2/5/2014, 8:34 PM
I liked your ideas, but I just don't think it's happening. I think that what they'll end up doing is having Norman manipulating Harry into being Goblin purely for Norman's gain.
MrReese
MrReese - 2/5/2014, 9:02 PM
Only secret this film has is the old man.Which imo is Spencer Smythe.
BrowniesExplode
BrowniesExplode - 2/6/2014, 3:26 AM
Has anyone else nothing the goblin suit is have done. Like the right arm is looks completed but the left arm looks like iron man suit without the armor?
6of13
6of13 - 2/6/2014, 4:51 AM
Everybody is assuming that Norman Osborn is sick and therefore needs the Goblin serum to cure him.

Why can't we assume then that maybe it was the Goblin serum that made him sick? Richard Parker was working on something before he died. Dr Connors continued Richard Parker's research but he used lizard and other animals as a basis for his input into what Richard Parker started.

Therefore, why could not Richard Parker have been working on a super soldier serum of sorts. Norman Osborn, for whatever reason, took the formula thinking it would work. And it did work. And it worked for a while. Then he was transformed into the Goblin which is why Richard had to suddenly drop young Peter off with his uncle and aunt and go off and help Norman. Maybe that is what lead to the Parker's being killed. Maybe Harry somehow inherits something from his dad. Norman meanwhile becomes more and more sick.
CaptainAmerica31
CaptainAmerica31 - 2/6/2014, 4:53 AM
@6of13 then why would Harry take the serum?
6of13
6of13 - 2/6/2014, 5:38 AM
@Spidey31 I cannot really answer that but if Norman is sick and requires the serum as a cure, why would Harry take it when he himself is not sick. Perhaps to test it on himself first. But if Norman is sick and dying why not just test it on Norman first anyway since he would have nothing to lose at this point. Either he dies from his sickness or the serum kills him. It's the same result either way.
Masterpace
Masterpace - 2/6/2014, 2:23 PM
Yeah I would maybe agree with you if Gobby would wear a mask in the movie...but he doesn't.
Masterpace
Masterpace - 2/6/2014, 2:25 PM
I think that Harry won't be called green goblin...he will be more like Hobgoblin...serum is still orange...then Norman will take perfected serum[green] and he will be green goblin...but that later in the series not in TASM2.
Masterpace
Masterpace - 2/6/2014, 2:28 PM
BatmanFtw154 and people still wanted Marvel- the company that chose Ultimate SM over Spectacular SM- to handle the movies...no thank you.
Masterpace
Masterpace - 2/6/2014, 2:36 PM
One: Really? You think they paid additional money just to make CGI Harry Goblin just to play with people? Genius.

Two: You saw any toy of Rhino? Maybe he's also only a ruse.

Three: There were interviews with them...and secrecy about main story isn't new in the movie industry. And what did you really heard from Andrew or Emma about the main story or other characters...pretty much nothing.

Four: Norman told him to and serum made him crazy.

Five: What??

Six: Yeah why would anyone want to take the serum that can make you into superhuman...yeah why? Especially someone like Harry...watch Spectacular SM again why did harry took the serum in that series?

Seven: Well if your gut says so who am I to argue.
Masterpace
Masterpace - 2/7/2014, 10:52 AM
@dethpillow I just called him that because serum was orange there was nothing more to it really...if it will make you feel better change Hobgoblin in my post to Prototype Goblin...his suit is incomplete so it works :P

BTW @VIRILEMAN

About the title...Why would anyone don't believe what you think? That makes no sense. You should skip "I think..." part of the title.
TheFable
TheFable - 2/8/2014, 3:15 AM
*****POTENTIAL SPOILERS****** So yeah there was this story going around the internet where there's this scene with Norman in a large glass container with the Goblin suit next to him and also..... There's a head in one of the compatments of the container.... Now I don't remember if it was Norman's head or Harry's... But either way the head belonged to an Osborn..... Sounds gruesome I know
MrStarLord
MrStarLord - 2/10/2014, 10:00 PM
I think Norman tests the serum on Harry, then harry becomes either Proto or Hob Goblin then Norman puts on the suit in the third one and kills Gwen.
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