SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME Cleverly Reuses Footage Of Key Actors From SPIDER-MAN 3 And THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN

SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME Cleverly Reuses Footage Of Key Actors From SPIDER-MAN 3 And THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN

Spider-Man: No Way Home brings back a lot of familiar faces, but two of the movie's villains actually show up via reused footage from Spider-Man 3 and The Amazing Spider-Man. Read on for spoilery details.

By JoshWilding - Dec 19, 2021 08:12 AM EST
Filed Under: No Way Home

WARNING: Potential SPOILERS follow!

Throughout Spider-Man: No Way Home, Sandman and The Lizard appear solely as CG characters; Flint Marko remains in his sandy form, while Dr. Curt Connors has fully embraced his reptilian side. However, during the final battle, both villains are returned to their human selves. 

Did those scenes look at all familiar to you? Well, they should have, because Marvel Studios reused footage from 2007's Spider-Man 3 and 2012's The Amazing Spider-Man. When Flint finally reappears, it's through footage taken from that sewer fight with the black suit Spidey. However, instead of disintegrating after being blasted with water, it's reworked to make it look like his body is returning.

As for The Lizard, the sight of a clearly devastated Connors is lifted right from his defeat in The Amazing Spider-Man, albeit from what looks to be a different angle. It doesn't work quite as well as Sandman's human return, but what could the reason be for this old footage's inclusion? After all, both Thomas Haden Church and Rhys Ifans returned to lend their voices to these characters, so it's not as if they didn't want to reprise their respective roles for Spider-Man: No Way Home

We'll probably get an answer at some point, but the fact that this movie was shot in the midst of the pandemic is probably the main reason (scheduling issues may also have played a part). With everything going on in the world, bringing the actors to set for one scene simply may not have been practical. It's also feasible they signed on late and that neither character had a voice in an earlier version of the movie.

You can check out some comparison photos over at The Direct, but let us know if you spotted this down in the comments section.
 

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WakandanQueen
WakandanQueen - 12/19/2021, 8:39 AM
I couldn't even tell it was reused footage.
HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 12/19/2021, 8:49 AM
@WakandanQueen - same
Blergh
Blergh - 12/19/2021, 8:39 AM
I suppose it's because of the pandemic that neither Church nor Ifans were needed on set. Their shots only took a few seconds and were woven into perfectly
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 12/19/2021, 8:43 AM
Soon, we won't need any actors at all.

tmp3
tmp3 - 12/19/2021, 8:51 AM
It was very very obvious lol
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 12/19/2021, 8:52 AM
Heh, I actually rewatched all those movies before my first screening of NWH and i DID in fact had a similar reaction


:P
Vision85
Vision85 - 12/19/2021, 9:06 AM
Probably significantly cheaper to pay the actors for usage than pay them for a day and de age them.
Origame
Origame - 12/19/2021, 9:29 AM
@Vision85 - ...the actors wouldn't be paid at all because they weren't in those shots.
Vision85
Vision85 - 12/19/2021, 10:09 AM
@Origame - you have to pay actors for usage, so because the usage of those shots was unlikely to include films by other studios they would get paid again for it.
Origame
Origame - 12/19/2021, 10:23 AM
@Vision85 - ...only if it's footage they're in. Sony owns all that footage, so all they'd have to pay for is their likeness, which only comes up at the end with them actually appearing in the movie. Not this footage.
abd00bie
abd00bie - 12/19/2021, 1:45 PM
@Origame - So three fiddy lol
KWilly
KWilly - 12/19/2021, 9:06 AM
Bit distracting for me, but I'm guessing there had to be a reason why Haden Church and Ifans weren't available to come on set. At least they provided the voices, so it's all good.
Conquistador
Conquistador - 12/19/2021, 9:12 AM
We live in a time when it's cheaper to CGI a character into a scene than pay a substantial large sum for the actor to reappear.

Their budget was probably close to 400mil (Incl. marketing) and having to pay all the other legacy actors/characters. I think the pandemic was a small factor, but they prioritised physically getting the bigger names in the movie.

The movie was good, but I feel its not going to age well when all the relived nostalgia has weared off. the CGI was overused and obvious in places and the writing was not that great.

Electro didn't know who Peter Parker was, neither did venom lol.

Tom Holland killed it though.
ElricReturns
ElricReturns - 12/19/2021, 11:08 AM
@UniqNo - damn, great points about Electro and Venom.
OrgasmicPotatoe
OrgasmicPotatoe - 12/19/2021, 11:48 AM
@UniqNo - Bit of a stretch, but Venom could have known about Peter Parker through the multiversal hive mind he mentioned in LTBC. If Raimi Venom knew Parker, so could Sony's Venom.

But I agree on Electro. Unless he did learn his identity in that movie, my brain tried to erease most of TASM2 from my memory
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 12/19/2021, 11:56 AM
@UniqNo - Venom knew who Parker was because of the hive mind the symbiotes share that’s trans dimensional. Venom told Eddie this during the Venom:2 post credit scene.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 12/19/2021, 11:57 AM
@OrgasmicPotatoe - aaaaaaah, you beat me to it. But you’re absolutely right.
Conquistador
Conquistador - 12/19/2021, 12:13 PM
@WruceBayne @OrgasmicPotatoe -

I've seen that explanation before, but that's still poor writing and is then inaccessible to the general non fanboy audience.

Though the fanboys got the best rewards from the movie in seeing the trio.

As bad as Spider-Man 3 was, having Flint turn again from his arc was just another poor twist. They could have used a stunt double in the SM3 Venoms suit if they just needed to add another lame villain instead.

Same with Otto, but at least he was there to give a performance, which I really enjoyed, as it payed off with his interaction with Maguire "Just trying to do better". that was really nice.

I really enjoyed the movie though and have really only seen it once in its entirety, but I dony see it aging well, due to the amount of flaws.
Conquistador
Conquistador - 12/19/2021, 12:16 PM
@WruceBayne - Also didn't they change the dialogue from the Venom 2 theatrical release to the Digital and Dvd release?

Didn't it go from, "I hate that guy" to "he looks tasty.." or something like that.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 12/19/2021, 12:37 PM
@UniqNo - that I’m not sure of. I personally didn’t want to give Venom 2 a second watch but that “hive mind” line really stuck out with me.
LSHF
LSHF - 12/19/2021, 7:14 PM
@UniqNo - All of the films have flaws (depending upon your definition of flaws). Most people aren't that nitpicky. It will age just fine.
LSHF
LSHF - 12/19/2021, 7:15 PM
@UniqNo - "Didn't it go from, "I hate that guy" to "he looks tasty.." or something like that."

That's how I remember it.
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 12/19/2021, 9:36 PM
@UniqNo - Didn’t he though? I could be misremembering but I think Gwen told him about Peter at some point previously and I think Electro saw her at the power plant and recognized her. So I think he knew Peter was Spiderman but just never met him so he didn’t know what he looked like with the mask off
TheCoonII
TheCoonII - 12/19/2021, 9:57 PM
@UniqNo - The non fanboy audience doesn't matter
Conquistador
Conquistador - 12/20/2021, 1:04 AM
@LSHF -Maybe, but Mary's opinion on Far from home has soured.

Conquistador
Conquistador - 12/20/2021, 1:06 AM
@Ha1frican - He didn't, even Harry didn't know till the end.

That why the scene when he unmasked he was talking about how he's just a kid and not black. or maybe I misunderstood
newhire13
newhire13 - 12/20/2021, 2:04 PM
@UniqNo - Idk how that’s poor writing. They establish in Venom that he has a hive mind and you see how that comes into play in No Way Home. Thus, if you watch the movies you have an answer to that question. You not liking the explanation they gave does not equal poor writing.
newhire13
newhire13 - 12/20/2021, 2:05 PM
@LSHF - No, he never said “I hate this guy”
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