Black Cat Confirmed in Spider-Man 4...Possibly Vulture?

Black Cat Confirmed in Spider-Man 4...Possibly Vulture?

A reliable Spidey-source reveals details of the fourth Spider-Man installment.

By ArmouredAvenger - Nov 10, 2009 08:11 PM EST
Filed Under: The Amazing Spider-Man
Source: SlashFilm

There’s obviously some heavy auditioning going on for a certain female antihero that most believe to be Felicia Hardy, the Black Cat. It has been rumored that Sam Raimi has met with both Rachael McAdams and Romola Garai for the role. But is this information viable?

According to a credible source, it seems without a doubt we will see the feline cat burglar in Spider-Man 4. According to Slashfilm.com, we might have a possible plot outline revealed:

"I’ve verified with Hey U Guys that their sources are 100% legit, and am pleased to confirm that they’ve passed the sniff test easily. This is still just a rumour, sure - but it’s a very nice smelling one. Have a quote:

Their report goes on to tell us that the big screen Felicia Hardy is not the daughter of a cat burglar, as per the original, but that her old man is, for some of the film at least, the new man in charge of the Daily Bugle. This is presumably how she first meets Peter Parker, who she then goes on to fall in love with and discover the secret identity of - which will, as was inevitable, put both of them in danger. Jeez, Pete - can’t you just keep it in your pants mask?

Hardy’s father is not only a newsman but also reportedly a villain in some sense, though possibly not a costumed one. On the other hand, Hey U Guys tell us that their source were calling this chap a “viper”, over and over. It doesn’t really add up that they’ve confused “lizard” and “viper” but how about “vulture” and “viper”? There’s also an outside chance that the word was “venom” and there’s some cross-over between Spider-Man 4 and the touted Venom spin-off on the cards. Vulture seems most likely to me… or Hardy senior might just be a ticked off news man with no animal alias."


But wait, True Believers, there's more:

"The Hey U Guys story suggests that it’s the death of Felicia’s pop that provides the catalyst for her change of heart. Does Mr. Hardy die because an out-of-costume Peter feels he can’t act to save him? Again, that seems to be the strong implication but only time will tell. I definitely see the comments Raimi has made about needing a villain and a dilemma specific to Peter’s new circumstances marrying up very nicely with a plot line about Spider-Man’s need for a secret identity."

If this source is indeed reliable, the hope of seeing either the Lizard or Kraven in the fourth Spider-Man movie is dead in the water. Unless, of course, four villains is just what Raimi has in mind. What do you think?



Information courtesy of SlashFilm


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shadowboxer
shadowboxer - 11/10/2009, 9:00 PM
well the story between mj & hardy should be entertaining, a "CAT"fight maybe?

mcadams for blackcat! she's a hottie


sorry guys a little off track but what is with of these EVONY chicks with the big boobs? i see them everywhere
THEHAWK
THEHAWK - 11/10/2009, 9:10 PM
I hate it already. I am about to join Multi on this one. I hope the story for her is just a nbad rumor.
BlackCat1
BlackCat1 - 11/10/2009, 9:15 PM
hope this is all true well i guess but Im not sure of how true everything is because that's alot of info that their giving us all in one week.....please be true and Black Cat vs Vulture would f-ing rock, just like the Marvel Knight Spider-Man comic book
ArmouredAvenger
ArmouredAvenger - 11/10/2009, 9:17 PM
I just think there doing the same thing that [frick]ed up spidey 3. Changing the mythos. Making vulture her dad? Putting a new editor at the Daily Bugle? Have any of the writes ever read a spiderman comic?
Upupandaway
Upupandaway - 11/10/2009, 9:18 PM
This just doesn't sound like it would be accurate. What are they doing with Jameson? I like the idea of Black Cat over MJ, but this might be a little much. They don't even have to mention parentage.
Bamf7
Bamf7 - 11/10/2009, 9:18 PM
Ummm...all of this seems like a lot of speculation, and I'm not clear on who exactly is "confirming" this. It's a direct cut and paste of the original article...and saying "Viper" doesn't mean "Vulture". I don't know...just doesn't make sense to me I guess.

We'll see how it all pans out. I am one of the people that enjoyed the first two movies enough that I'm willing to give Raimi another try...Here's hoping!
ArmouredAvenger
ArmouredAvenger - 11/10/2009, 9:29 PM
I know. I rushed it without looking at the main source. I should have put the main article which you can view here: http://bit.ly/3i4zgQ The whole vulture idea is just Slashfilm.com editor Brendon Connelly's speculation. He was never mentioned in the original post.
RockNRollCC
RockNRollCC - 11/10/2009, 9:31 PM
i can tell its gonna be another SM3
California
California - 11/10/2009, 10:02 PM
This "rumor" made absolutely no sense; 'Here's what a reliable source said, "Viper." Which could be taken to mean Venom, Vulture, or lizard.' I guess they didn't think of scorpion. This could be disinformation as well at this point since the leaking of the Black Cat casting.
supermarioworldE
supermarioworldE - 11/10/2009, 10:05 PM
Either way, i'm not looking forward to spidey 4 at all.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 11/10/2009, 10:06 PM
this is baseless speculation at best. how do you get vulture out of viper?? i find it funny that this guy says it doesn't add up to confuse "lizard" with "viper". oh, but it makes perfect sense to confuse "viper" with "vulture"????? seriously...
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 11/10/2009, 10:08 PM
@ upandaway

exactly. in the comics, black cat just shows up as black cat one night. there is no need to show her father at all.
DTLSinger
DTLSinger - 11/10/2009, 10:12 PM
Honestly i'm thinking with the whole Viper thing it might be Scorpion. Vulture would be good but i have my heart set on Lizard. I really want a Sinister 6 that would be Epic
Joe6Pack74
Joe6Pack74 - 11/10/2009, 10:14 PM
Ya know, it is going to be what it is going to be. Vulture is a classic, it will get made no matter what anyone says. And you will watch it. Just like everyone watched every other trainwreck, Catwoman, Daredevil, GI Joe(yes it was bad), etc, etc. Eat your crap sandwich and like it.
slimybug
slimybug - 11/10/2009, 10:23 PM
Rachel McAdams would be perfect for Black Cat.

But I swear, if Lizard isn't the villain this time, Raimi can't blame anyone but himself for the mob of fanboys that'll break down his door and beat him to death.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 11/10/2009, 10:32 PM
@ multi

oh, i didn't say raimi wouldn't do it because it didn't happen in the comics, i said they didn't NEED to. two different things :)

@ number 21

don't act like you're somehow above everyone else man. spidey has a LOT of classic characters, and NOTHING in that article points to vulture being in this, only an idiotic assumption that by using the word "viper" they meant "vulture", which i'm still trying to figure out how someone could come to that conclusion. and i've never seen catwoman. daredevil was hardly a trainwreck, and who DIDN'T see gi joe? obviously you did since you said it was bad.
mnc
mnc - 11/10/2009, 10:35 PM
"Viper" could have been misquoted and they meant to say vampire. "Viper" is probably Morbius or Lizard not Vulture.
Azrael83
Azrael83 - 11/10/2009, 10:39 PM
Good news and bad news I guess. Black Cat goooood. Vulture baaaaaaad. More than one villain should be against the rules now. Two is really pushing it, but the Vulture? Kraven would be sick. Venom reborn would be cool too. Has Doc Connors paid his dues with his minor roles the last two films? Dream scenario would be a Spidey 4 movie with just Lizard, and maybe Black Cat. Gosh I hope this movie doesn't suck.
InTylerWeTrust
InTylerWeTrust - 11/10/2009, 10:41 PM
Really?

First the Black Cat thing, I thought that was bad enough that she'd be in it, but now....Vulture?

Come on. Vulture is such a lame villain. An old guy with bird wings. Woop dee doo.

God I hope this is pure speculation.
thwhtGuardian
thwhtGuardian - 11/10/2009, 10:46 PM
that picture is how I feel about this story multi.
I can't understand the leap of faith that was taken here...viper doesn't have to be a misquote he could have just meant that the old guy was mean. That to me seems more rational.
Shadowelfz
Shadowelfz - 11/10/2009, 10:57 PM
God I hope its not the vulture. Anyone but the goddamn vulture!
Unmasked
Unmasked - 11/10/2009, 11:02 PM
Been gone for a while. lol.


To me it seems like they may be setting JJJ up for the Scorpion storyline. I mean it makes perfect sense. In the comics Jonah did step down from the Bugle. So that would be a great story. I'm a little iffy on the Black Cat thing though. I wish they kept Harry alive though. It would have made for great conflict. Also if Harry was alive we could've had a New Goblin Vs Hobgoblin storyline.


You've been UNMASKED!
yankees8924
yankees8924 - 11/10/2009, 11:08 PM
I think Spiderman 4 should focus on developing the lizard and scorpion, and maybe introduce the black cat as a sub character and making her a main character in the 5th movie. The movie should also focus on further developing venom for the spinoff film, rather than introducing the vulture or a less popular villain. I think it would also be cool to introduce a fight scene with rhino in the beginning, or establish the kingpin in the movie.

WalkingPhoenix
WalkingPhoenix - 11/10/2009, 11:14 PM
Do you think it's possible peolpe jumped to the Black Cat conclusion pre-maturely. If this rumor is true, it doesn't say the nationality of who the new guy is as the bugle? Could it be the female partRachel McAdams is trying out for is Calypso??? A good friend of Kraven the Hunter. Just a thought. Everyone is soquick to jump on the Black cat band wagon. I'm all for Sam Raimi changing stuff up and give us a new "original" storyline. Comicbooks are constantly changing storyline and origins.
TheNameIsBetty
TheNameIsBetty - 11/10/2009, 11:14 PM
They used all the good villains already. lol

DAMNIT why can't they just tell us who the villains are already.
yankees8924
yankees8924 - 11/10/2009, 11:19 PM
Hey I j was watching Spiderman 1 today and I was a little disappointed with the green goblins costume, I do not know how any of you felt about that but it bothered me a little... sorry if it is a little of topic. Also Mysterio could be another cool option for Spiderman 4.
supermarioworldE
supermarioworldE - 11/10/2009, 11:30 PM
@yankees

The term "green ranger" always comes to mind whenever I see that suit. At least Gobby was the one villain in this damn franchise, who was actually just a plain "bad guy", that the audience didn't sympathize with.

And it's doubtful that 4 will be good because raimi has been hauling the same crap for three movies straight. He hasn't learned.
yankees8924
yankees8924 - 11/10/2009, 11:41 PM
That is exactly what came to my mind as well; they should have at least made his mouth move or added different shades of colors to his suit.
supermarioworldE
supermarioworldE - 11/10/2009, 11:58 PM
Every great movie has it's flaws. Even TDK had a terrible suit for batman. He gets bitten by dogs that can penetrate his suit, and he wants to make the suit thinner?! But it is all fantasy in some aspect. These comic book movies can seem a little nerdy, or stupid, or cartoony, but isn't that what they were going for in early comics?
Macksimus
Macksimus - 11/11/2009, 12:12 AM
@Number21

ROFL!

This isn't news, but if it were, it sure as hell doesn't sound very promising.

Oh well, still way to early to start judging. Maybe Raimi will deliver this time.
Set2Fallfirst
Set2Fallfirst - 11/11/2009, 1:50 AM
serving it up...and with no lube...how distasteful.
Spilox
Spilox - 11/11/2009, 2:55 AM
Ah, this just sounds lame. He's gonna [frick] it up again. These directors take to many liberty's
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 11/11/2009, 3:13 AM
VULTURE is the lamest SPIDEY character!!

Wheres LIZARD & KRAVEN???? : D

LEEE777
LEEE777 - 11/11/2009, 3:15 AM
BEN KINGSLY for VULTURE and to go out will AUNT MAY!!

Bwahahahahahahaha!! ; D
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