BIGBMH's Take on Superman: Part 1

BIGBMH's Take on Superman: Part 1

Part 1 of my series in which I talk about how the next Superman movie should be done. In this article I start the "What not to do" section of the series and talk about why a Superman Returns sequel would not have worked.

Editorial Opinion
By BIGBMH - Nov 06, 2010 11:11 PM EST
Filed Under: Superman

Over the years, the Superman movie franchise has faced many difficulties. After the poorly received Superman 4 in 1987, there were several attempts to make a new Superman movie which all amounted to nothing. Fans didn't see Superman on film until almost 20 years later with the release of Superman Returns. While it was not a flop, Superman Returns fell short of expectations and was not the Man of Steel's triumphant return to film that fans had been waiting for. Four years passed and the studio still wasn't exactly sure how they were going to handle their next Superman movie. Some thought that they should allow Bryan Singer to make a sequel to Superman Returns. Others felt that the only way to make a proper Superman movie was to discard everything Superman Returns did and make a complete reboot. After his success with the Batman franchise, Christopher Nolan was brought in to be the producer of the new movie. Now, it has recently been announced that Zack Snyder (300, Watchmen, Sucker Punch) will direct the new movie. How should things go from here? Well, people of the world listen up because I present to you BIGBMH's Take on Superman!

What not to do

A lot of people feel pretty strongly about their ideas on how this movie should be done. Of course, this whole series is just my opinion, but there are some ideas that I think are the wrong way to go about this. Before I go into how I think the movie should be done, I'm going to talk about a few directions that I think are wrong for the movie and why I think they're wrong.

Superman Returns Sequel:
It has already been confirmed that the next Superman movie will not be a sequel to Superman Returns. However, I'd still like to talk about why that movie wouldn't work because in doing so, I will be able to highlight some of the main mistakes of Superman Returns and show some of the lessons the people making the next movies should learn from. For a while, I was one of the biggest supporters of making a sequel to Superman Returns. I actually enjoyed it for what it was and didn't think it was as bad as most people claimed. Bryan Singer had me curious to see what he had in mind for the next part of the story. I also hoped that Brandon Routh would get a chance to prove himself because I felt that he really wasn't given that much to work with in Returns. However, I've realized that a few key mistakes of Returns made it impossible for its sequel to be the Superman movie we've all been waiting for.

First, giving Superman a kid was a bad idea. Giving Superman a kid who thinks his father is Perry White's nephew (who is now practically married to Lois) was a worse idea. There just really wasn't a good way to resolve this. You could kill Richard, make him go bad, or have Lois leave him, but none of those really feel like they'd be a good enough conclusion to justify bringing him in.



Anyway, you'd eventually have to explain to Jason that Superman is his dad, which would be great if this was an episode of The Maury Show, but not for a Superman movie. I don't want to sound like I'm looking down on any types of families, but to me, the concept of Superman and Lois having a child out of wedlock just doesn't feel right for the character. This whole thing might have worked in a What if? or an animated movie, but not for the Superman movie franchise. I think the reason that so many of us fans are opposed to the concept of Jason is that, as fans, we grow accustomed to a certain status quo for characters like Superman. Superman's supporting cast has remained pretty much the same for most of his existence. It's not a big deal to make little changes, (adding Richard was fine), but throwing a kid into the mix dramatically changes things. We really don't want a movie that's dramatically different from how we envision Superman's world.

Another major problem with Superman Returns was the choice to make the movie a loose continuation of the Donner/ Reeve Superman movies. Those movies were great for the time. They were brilliantly directed and most fans still hail Christopher Reeve as the definitive Superman. While I fully agree with any director's choice to pay tribute to these films and look to them for inspiration, it is necessary to move forward. Bryan Singer didn't really bring very much of anything new or creative to the film because he pretty much tried to make a modern Richard Donner Superman movie. (Think of it this way: If Richard Donner did what Bryan Singer did, Superman The Movie would pretty much have been a movie version of the George Reeves Superman TV show) The opening and closing of the film were direct imitations of the Donner films. The interpretations of the characters were also basically the same. This actually put Brandon Routh at a disadvantage. In the past, every version of Superman was pretty distinctive. For example, Dean Cain's Superman was a completely different take than Christopher Reeve's because the makers of Lois and Clark had a different idea on how they wanted to present the character. Routh really wasn't creating his own Superman. He was pretty much doing his version of Christopher Reeve's Superman. While it wasn't exactly a copy, I believe that if he was given the chance to do a very different version of the character, he would have stood a better chance of making a lasting impression.



I've always thought that Superman Returns was a much better Superman 3 than Superman 3 was. However, it really doesn't make sense to re-introduce a character to moviegoers by making a continuation of a 26 year-old movie that general audiences really don't know very well. People are familiar with the Christopher Reeve Superman movies to an extent, but for the most part, the young people of today have never watched them. Most of the people who went to see Superman Returns did not understand the references to the older movies. I'm not saying that little Easter eggs aren't cool for us fans, but when you're making a movie that you want to appeal to general audiences, you should make something that people can easily appreciate without any background information. It's important to strike a balance between what's rewarding to long-time fans and what's accessible and entertaining to just about anyone.

The last major issue Superman Returns created was its interpretation of Lex Luthor. I actually enjoyed Kevin Spacey's performance as Lex. However, the portrayal of Lex Luthor as an elusive, high-profile criminal is outdated. It worked for Gene Hackman, but in the years since his performance, the character of Lex has evolved. Lex is much more powerful as a rich businessman with unlimited resources. He can still do anything the old Lex could do, but now he's much harder to catch because he can cover it up. Superman Returns pretty much used the same crappy land plot as the first Superman movie. In the trailer, Lex boasts "I'll have advanced technology, thousands of years beyond what anyone could throw at me!" When I saw that I was thinking that he had some kind of powerful Kryptonian weapon.



It was a rock. A rock that grew and got really big. His big plan was to grow this rock, destroy most of North America, and sell the land. What exactly was there stopping anyone from sending some planes to bomb this land mass and kill him? Nothing really. It was really one of the most poorly conceived movie villain plans I've ever seen. Maybe even worse than Lex's own plot of nuking the San Andreas fault in Superman: The Movie. The major problem with this Lex is that, even ignoring the stupidity of this first plan, he lacks the potential to become a greater threat. In the comics, Lex was the president of the Unites States for a while. That's a lot of power! If Lex is a known criminal on the run, he could never rise to anything like that. I'll have more on how I'd like to see Lex later.

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LP4
LP4 - 11/7/2010, 1:58 AM
Funny, I actually thought the original "Superman 3" was way better than Returns. It actually was more successful and didn't bury the franchise the way Returns did. I re-watched "Superman 3" recently and i thought it was good (minus Richard Pryor) but the movie was good overall- seeing Clark battle Superman, seeing Supes go rogue for a while as an after-effect of 'kryptonite tar"

The movie was better than people give it credit for and it had action unlike Returns. At least we actually got to see some fighting in the junkyard between Clark and Superman. Returns didn't even show a single punch being thrown. And plus at least it wasn't just another garden-variety Lex Luthor real-estate film. I mean shit, Superman Returns came out 20 years after "Superman 4" and the BEST they could do with it was ANOTHER Lex Luthor real-estate film...just LAME. Plus adding that stupid kid...then Superman stalking lois...the movie was also boring as hell- i fell asleep part-way through it and of course- Lex sucked in the movie.

At least Superman 3 kept me awake, had decent action (compared to Returns) and had a better villain (yes the Super computer was lame but still better than Spacey's Lex)

Superman 3 > Returns IMHO
KeithM
KeithM - 11/7/2010, 3:59 AM
I'll go one further than LP4.

Superman 4 > Returns.

Am I serious? Definitely.

Let's not pretend - Superman 4 was poorly made, mostly badly acted and clearly ran out of money meaning the effects were terrible too... but you know what - it was far more true, more faithful, more respectful to Superman than Returns was.

1. It examines Superman's true place in the modern world (albeit rather cheesily), giving him a moral conscience beyond that of rescuing cats from trees - he rids the world of nuclear weapons - a noble aim - as opposed to Return's version's uncaring, petty-minded Superman who cares more about stalking an ex he obviously didn't care about enough when he impregnated her first time around.

2.Here, Superman isn't alienated from the planet he's called home for his entire life (why would he be? He doesn't know anything else...), he isn't moping about worried about his place in society - he just gets on with helping people out, not hindered by petty teenage self-doubt issues, but firm in his moral convictions that he's doing the right thing - as Superman should be (even if it later turns out that any decisions might have unforeseen consequences, that shouldn't change Supes' convictions about doing the right thing according to his conscience).

3. He fights a super villain (badly done perhaps, but at least it was in there).

Superman 4 was a badly made film, granted. But it was far truer to the character than Singer's abortion.

BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 11/7/2010, 6:12 AM
I respect your opinions. To me, Returns feels more like a Donner movie because Singer tried so hard to do that. When I first watched Superman 3, I was taken aback because it was like "WTF? It feels completely different!"
I'd like to point out that the lack of action in Returns was a big fault, but claiming that 3 and 4 were better than Returns partly because Superman fights is a pretty weak argument. He doesn't throw a single punch in the first movie (correct me if I'm wrong) and that's pretty much the best of the entire series.
Anyway, I 'd recommend just watching the first 2 to anyone who hasn't seen the series. 3, 4, and Returns don't really feel like worthwhile continuations of that story.
Ibz
Ibz - 11/7/2010, 8:21 AM
i respect all your views but superman 3, 4 and returns were equally pathetic and in 2012 superman will RETURN for real
KeithM
KeithM - 11/7/2010, 10:16 AM
BIGBMH: The 'fighting a villain' comment was just an ironic aside in that even though these were terrible movies, at least they had a fight with a villain to mitigate them somewhat - Returns didn't even have that. If it was otherwise a brilliant movie (like STM), then "no fights" may have been perfectly acceptable, and even silliness like flying round the world backwards to reverse time could be forgiven (just) - but Returns had NOTHING going for it - no fun, no depth, no intelligence, not a shred of genuine emotion anywhere to be seen, not good acting (Spacey hamming it up to the hilt included), not good plotting, not even a good action sequence* - NOTHING.

*The plane sequence doesn't even count because even there Superman acted like a day-one rookie and like he never rescued a falling plane before... I mean grabbing hold of the wing like that - what did he think was going to happen? Is he retarded? (rhetorical question - the movie clearly shows that he is mentally, morally and emotionally deficient in pretty much every way).

At least in 3 & 4, bad as they were, the portrayal of Superman's character was essentially true to the core of the source, unlike Returns, which turned him into something decidedly and categorically un-Superman-like.

Anyway, the sooner Snyder's movie can erase that abortion from history the better.
Ibz
Ibz - 11/7/2010, 10:35 AM
and i highly doubt routh will be casted as superman again he might get an audition/screentest but him getting the role is highly unlikely simply because snyder would not want anything connecting his movie to returns,
kashchei2003
kashchei2003 - 11/7/2010, 12:18 PM
its amazing how often I keep hearing people say that Snyder won't want to cast routh simply because he doesn't want any connection with SR. To the people that think this, do you honestly mean to tell me that if Routh is recast, you wouldn't go see Man of Steel? You know you would anyway! Especially if in 2011 we see some kick ass trailer that got you really hyped up, you know damn well you'd be the first in line. It was the directing and script that brought down SR, not Routh alone. All I'm saying is that people should stop worrying so much about who is cast for MOS, and pray that we get better direction and writing than what Singer gave us in SR
Sturmpionier
Sturmpionier - 11/7/2010, 1:00 PM
More good stuff from BigBMH.

Nice job.

Luthor is a good villain when he uses his resources to come up with a credible physical threat to Supes. A giant robot might be good. A giant rock that is hard to pick up is not.

My advice: stick to what made Supes great in the late 80's early 90's. Get the Byrne/Stern ethos going and then eventually have him face Doomsday a movie or two later.
LP4
LP4 - 11/7/2010, 3:06 PM
@KeithM- Dude you gotta comment here more =) I never see your comments anymore and you're one of the few smart people here on CBM= routh and welling both suck.

^_^

And yeah Superman 4 was better than Returns. Returns didn't even feel like a Donner film...it was too boring...the stalking and the love-child were weird and out of touch with Superman.

Singer blows.
LP4
LP4 - 11/7/2010, 3:09 PM
@Superguy1591- I agree with you man- ROUTH SUCKS. But seriously it was still Singer's fault for casting Routh in the first place. Everything that went wrong in 'Returns' falls at the feet of Bryan Singer first and foremost. He's a [frick]ing moron. I don't like Routh...I feel he just can't act. Yeah he seems like a nice dude, but I really wanna see a new Superman take, ya know? Plus nice or not, Routh shouldn't be in the reboot...it's rebooting for a REASON.

I also despise Dougherty and Harris- SR writers. Even the cast felt a bit out of place though...

I just want an all-new cast. No routh, no welling nothing from the past. I want a fresh, new start.
Ibz
Ibz - 12/18/2010, 2:23 PM
i am late and hopefully you see this reply @kash,yeah i would watch it because i couldnt careless who was cast as superman, the reason for me watching it would be snyder, i just said routh if look at it logically at not through the eyes of a fanboy routh has less of a chance getting the role, as snyder has STATED him self that he dosent want his movie doing anything with it
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