How could you "Nolanise" the Supeman franchise

Almost everybody wil agree that Christopher Nolan has delivered the greatest Comic Book Movie, and possibly Movie ever! But how could you take his ethics and put them into the greatest super hero ever, Superman?

Editorial Opinion
By Nicholsy - Nov 12, 2009 09:11 AM EST
Filed Under: Superman

There are certain qualities that a Superman movie needs, Clark/Superman persona, Krypton, costume, flying, Lois Lane and Lex Luthor. But how could yu portray these in real world material. I believe I have the answers but let me know what you think.

Lets start with the costume, being the easiest to deal with.
First off, in my Superman movie that I wrote screen play for myself, the acutal suit that Kal-El wears is actually Jor-El's that he gave to ancestors of Jonathan Kent when he visited earth in the mid 19th century. In my universe, Kryptonians used Boom Tube's to travel vast space distances. This is how Jor-El travelled to earth to hide Krypton's knowledge crystal to hide it from Brainiac, leaving the suit as a momento to the Kents'. Kal-El later gets it after his origin is revealed to him.

Lex Luthor
As we have seen with Smallville, Lex Luthor as a powerful and corrupt billionaire businessman works really well, then a "Greatest criminal mind" persona. LexCorp has plenty of possibilities to create storylines for Superman and future movies. It can also create villains like Metallo that would make up my 1st movie.

Lois Lane
Lets have Lois as a nobody reporter trying to make it into the stars. In my universe, she is under pressure from Perry White to perform and get a story, and with archrival Cat Grant making it in the Gossip column at Daily Planet, Lois need something big. She as partnered with John Corben until he "died" after being run over by Cadmus trucks which Lois tried to expose. Clark then comes and is her lucky charm when she scores Superman story exclusive.

Clark/Superman
I favour the 2 persona's then the 3 persona character. I like the original movie idea of the actor playing Superman and Superman playing Clark as the 2 personas. The difficulty is how do you make simply putting glasses on hm and changing the hair as real world as people would see him a mile away.

The Birthright explanation works a lot here but also, you could have Clark not as a top reporter, but a good one who isn't realy noticed by anybody apart from Lois, Jimmy and Perry. Even then he takes a backseat.

I would have Clark played just like in Superman movies and returns. But would have Lois played as she sees him like a student of hers and she is trying to teach him reporting ways, even though she isn't that great herself. They have a unique bond that Lois loves Clark, but sisterly love.

Tell me what you think

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DonkeyPuncher
DonkeyPuncher - 11/12/2009, 4:58 PM
I agree with multi I think a Nolan version of superman would never work. It works well with batman cause batman has that sence of realism. You need to have like Multi said that fantasy aspect.
thwhtGuardian
thwhtGuardian - 11/12/2009, 9:19 PM
the boom tube tech is just bad logic, I mean if he could reach earth that way why didn't more kryptonians escape? Why send his son in a rocket?
wussupman
wussupman - 11/13/2009, 2:40 AM
I think Nolan would do well on a "Superman" film . He's not a one trick pony that only revolves around dark gritty realism . Let's not forget that he's working on a sci-fi movie right now and "Superman" is science fiction . I think his version would be beyond all of the other interpretations that we've already seen , we know of origins and Lex Luthor . I think that he would introduce what we've all been waiting for , a more dominant and heroic "Superman" clashing with his foes of more epic scale . I believe Nolan's "Batman" appeals so well to us because Nolan recognized that "B.Wayne/Batman" through no matter what is only human . Nolan's "Superman" would have an entire universe of strengths and weaknesses at his disposal and it would be spectacular ! You know what else I would have liked to see - Mr. Nolan's take on the "Wolverine" origins movie ! Espcially when "Wolverine" was supposed to go beserk and and snap !
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 11/13/2009, 6:30 AM
answer to the question: take away his powers and make his voice sound like he's been smoking 2 packs a day for 40 years.
superjakeman
superjakeman - 11/13/2009, 9:14 AM
I am a huge superman fan, love the idea of his role, but translating on screen seems to always tank. To me, as a fan, Superman can't be hurt; after all he is Superman. Why does every movie made about him have to have someone kicking his ass. For a Superman movie to truly make it, we need an entire 2 hour film to not include someone finding a piece of kryptonite and beating him down. Lets have a movie where he establishes himself as Superman and does Superman type things that can be exciting. After all I didn't become a fan because a green rock makes him weak....
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 11/13/2009, 9:21 AM
@ superjakeman

thats why superman is a seriously awful character. without kryptonite, there's no real sense of danger. with no sense of danger, its not exciting. who wants to see a movie of a guy that you KNOW will never be hurt or die?
wussupman
wussupman - 11/13/2009, 11:56 AM
@MultiPurpose : I never said that Nolan was the be-all-end-all of comics , so F%%k You and that gun you're holding ! We're talking about a guy that bought his own vision to a very much beloved character and in two decent movies kept "Batman" in an element that has mass appeal - The real world , but with a fictional less than super human but fully capable person who simply just had enough and decided to make a change . We all have critics and skeptics that presume they know us and our limitations , but we still push forth to achieve our goals with the blessings we are fortunate to recieve . Remember MultiPurposePoni , somebody hated on you once and told you that you could'nt do it and I bet my last dollar that you proved them wrong . Did'nt you ?
wussupman
wussupman - 11/13/2009, 12:15 PM
@Corndog : "Superman" can die , remember ? He got beat to death . Personally I don't even care for S.M. but like all of us , I like good movies . I know the stories and backgrounds of a lot of characters so I especially don't care for it when they're misrepresented to the point where the movies we all pay to see suck worse than terrible hookers . All I'm sayin' is that Nolan made a good movie about a character and kept it grounded in the earthly realm of "Batman" . Why could'nt he make a good "Superman" movie in the realm of "Superman" ? Stop stereotyping !!!!
wussupman
wussupman - 11/13/2009, 12:49 PM
@teabag : Blood and guts don't always have to fill a void when it comes to violence and terror . There are so many different ways to visualize the trauma that ensued , frankly I'm surprised you even hit me with that one . Reconstitute your creative prowess and imagine the screams of agony , flickering lights and the massive destruction left in the wake . If I'm not mistaken did'nt "The Joker" : Rob a bank full of mob bosses money - Hung a muthaf@#$a by a rope from a building after he killed him - Blew up a hospital - Killed a judge and a commissioner - Manipulated Harvey Dent and killed the same women he only moments earlier tossed out a window - Shot an RPG at the cops several times and then tried to get two boatloads of people to kill eachother all under Nolan's direction or has this last year and a half just been somekind of played out urban legend ?
SHHH
SHHH - 11/13/2009, 1:55 PM
Nolanise The Green Arrow
flames809
flames809 - 11/13/2009, 2:37 PM
he would make an awsome supeman and to make t a lil dark add lex and bizarrio as the villians
wussupman
wussupman - 11/13/2009, 5:31 PM
@teabag : Whatever you say . We're two different people with two different opinions . You win if that's what you want to hear , now go do some teabaggin' :)

Has anyone seen "Black Dynamite" ? If you have'nt you should check it out , it's very funny !
wussupman
wussupman - 11/14/2009, 8:40 AM
@teabag : LOL ! You're alright with me man , two thumbs up :)
6of13
6of13 - 11/14/2009, 1:17 PM
When I read the headline to this editorial, I got the impression that "Nolanise" was meant as a verb rather than actually having Nolan himself direct any Superman movie. Therefore, I concluded that what a good Superman movie needs is what Batman Begins and The Dark Night are to Batman and Robin.
kyle
kyle - 11/14/2009, 6:45 PM
im not a big fan of superman cus u cant have him too dark or too light. he's not realistic enough to be nolanized. shazam is like superman i think. both r gods of dc. they cant really be beaten. why make a movie about a guy who can only die from kryptonite or doomsday? same thing for shazam: why make a movie about who becomes a hero by saying shazam?

hope that mark millar's superman gets mad. to loose a power based off of a supernova instead of the same weakness over and over again. hell, it'll be like my favorite mafia triliogy of all time: the godfather!
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 11/15/2009, 10:20 AM
@ wussupman

yeah he did get beaten to death. but the death of superman was something they just totally pulled out of their asses to sell comics. up until that point/and even after, no one could hurt him. the crisis stories are made by DC to fix continuity issues in the DC universe. there's like 20 of them. AND those things are constantly being changed. sometimes he's invulnerable, sometimes they fix it so he is. he's supposed to be vulnerable to magic, yet when he fights someone like captain marvel, that somehow doesn't matter.

also, i'm not stereotyping, stereotyping would saying a whole group of characters are like that, but we're only talking about superman.

and why this wouldn't work?? you say it in your own article. you want a superman movie directed by chris nolan so that it can be grounded and realistic. explain to me how an alien from another planet with super-strength, speed, heat vision, flight, invulnerability and whatever the hell else is realistic? the entire character of superman makes it IMPOSSIBLE to be realistic.
wussupman
wussupman - 11/15/2009, 9:14 PM
@CorndogBurglar : Because studio execs or whatever failed to properly set the other movies up to coincide with eachother , this "Batman" franchise pretty much stands alone . I don't remember seeing any cameos or even the mention of any other possible heroes in the DC universe , which is sad to me because it's two blown oppertunities to reference "Flash" , "Wonder Woman" and "Superman" or whoever else . In my opinion just as much as we want to blame Nolan for these things we have to look at the writers and especially the people who have the final say , those studio fat cats who are [frick]ing stuff up for everybody because it's their money so it's their rules . "Batman" is the way it is because in the movie world these are the early stages of his career as a crime fighter , so it's all dark and mob boss gritty because other elements like the "JLA" are'nt known to "Batman" yet . But with the introduction of his allies will also bring more foes that would open up the crossovers and sci-fi elements that would carry a series like this beyond street crime .

I said make a good "Superman" movie in the realm of "Superman" , not grounded In the realm of "Batman" . Any director in hollywood would be a complete moron , especially Nolan to completely change the standard of the "Superman" history and franchise . I think that it would for sure be a career killer . Case in point Tim Burton's movies were pretty good , then enter Schumacher and we're all looking at "Batman" like WTF is this piece of shit ! I believe Nolan has better since than that and would make a good "Superman" based in the realm of "Superman" powers and all , I don't think he would neglect the character by dismissing already established facets of "Clark Kent/Superman"

When I said "stereotyping" , I in no way intended to offend you . So peace and love to you and yours brother . All i meant was don't assume Nolan would'nt do a good job because you may or may not be happy with his work on the "Batman" franchise , He may actually do a good job and knock it out of the park . It could always be worse , they could ask Micheal Bay to do it .

Does anybody think Jon Favreau would do "Superman" justice ?
TheDurkinKnight
TheDurkinKnight - 11/15/2009, 9:57 PM
I think you put a lot of thought into the story, and there are some perspectives I share, while some I don't. I think the prospect of having a Superman movie made in the Nolanesque fashion would work great, because the more "real" the world, the more fantastic the backdrop of the superhero is...a la Batman.

Cheers man
wussupman
wussupman - 11/15/2009, 11:54 PM
@ TheDurkinKnight : Who would you like to see make a "Superman" movie ?
superjakeman
superjakeman - 11/16/2009, 10:09 AM
@Corndog

My point of having a superman movie where kryptonite doesn't come into play would be specifically for a re-boot. A movie that establishes superman as a hero and kicks some tail. The kryptonite issue is so over played in every movie and on smallville. There are different angles that a story arc can take besides some twerp finding a green rock and kicking his butt all over the screen, just to have him come back in the nick of time and get away from the rock...zzzzzz
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 11/16/2009, 10:03 PM
@ wassupman

no offense taken. i misunderstood you i guess. most people around here refer to nolan as the ultimate "reality" director. like he's the go to guy for a realistic comic book movie. so i assumed you wanted a superman movie based in that very real, dark, and serious world. which obviously is not a place for superman. :)
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 11/16/2009, 10:07 PM
@ superjakeman

i agree with you about the kryptonite, but thats why i don't like superman as a character. he's too overpowered. you never feel like he's in any real danger. they did the death of superman to shake things up because they knew no one cared about an indestructible character. i've never been, and never will be a superman fan. yeah, its great to watch him tear apart giant robots in the JLA, but in his own solo stuff, i just can't get into it.

i can see why people would, i mean he's the ultimate super hero, but thats just boring to me. give me a character with real flaws and weaknesses any day.

unfortunately wolverine has become a victim of this same thing. now he's unkillable too. what happened to the days where you were actually afraid logan might die? i miss that. and his overexposure doesn't help anything. next on the casualty list: Deadpool. get ready for it, they're going to shove deadpool down everyone's throats until we're sick of him and want him to go away.
superjakeman
superjakeman - 11/17/2009, 10:22 AM
@ Corndog

I agree that Wolverine is falling into the same boat, but they writers of the x-men movies and Wolverine have done a better job with his emotional side and developing him as a character. The last Superman movie had me feeling that Clark was empty and had no humanity. Either way, I love movies based on comics and would love to see someone re-boot the series.
wussupman
wussupman - 11/18/2009, 6:40 AM
@Corndog : Cool .
jadams07
jadams07 - 11/24/2009, 7:50 PM
ok so i didnt reall all the posts so if someone said this im sorry.


But you pretty much just wrote out what smallville has done for the superman mythos. even your idea of Jor-El visiting the kents is from smallville. I'am srry if i doubt how original your ideas are.
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