James Gunn On How SUPERMAN Will Fit Into Today's America; Reveals Real Meaning Behind Photo With Zack Snyder

James Gunn On How SUPERMAN Will Fit Into Today's America; Reveals Real Meaning Behind Photo With Zack Snyder

DC Studios co-CEO James Gunn responds to a question about where Superman fits into Donald Trump’s America and reveals what the deal was with that photo of him and Justice League director Zack Snyder.

By JoshWilding - Feb 24, 2025 05:02 PM EST
Filed Under: Superman
Source: Variety

Without getting too much into the politics of it all, Superman is arriving at a very fractious time in America. 

Talking to press last week, DC Studios co-CEO James Gunn was asked what about his version of the Man of Steel is right for the current cultural moment six months into the second Trump administration. 

"In some ways, I would say it’s the right Superman because I don’t think he’s a part of the cultural moment," Gunn responded. "He’s a character that stands for something that is solid, for basic human morals, basic human integrity, the basic belief in protecting others the weak and being good to people and being honest. He stands for what I think of as the rules that don’t change."

It was put to Gunn that some studios, including Disney, have made a conscious decision to move away from diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI). Rather than wade into a heated debate and allow Superman to get caught up in that, the filmmaker pleaded ignorance. 

"I know what you’re saying," he said. "I understand your words, but I’ve been off working on stories for three years, and I just try to tell the best stories I possibly can, and that’s all I care about."

Gunn told reporters that he rarely reads the news and has recently been spending very little time on social media both for his own mental health and because Superman and Peacemaker season 2 have been keeping him busy. 

"We’re just off trying to make the best movies we can in the best way we can. No matter who is telling me who I’m supposed to put in my movie, for whatever reason, I don’t give a shit," Gunn stated. "I was always about creating the best story possible with the best characters possible. It was that way, you know, five years ago, and it’s that way today."

The filmmaker and studio executive may have moved away from answering fan questions, but recently shared a photo from a meeting with Zack Snyder at DC Studios. Much has been said about the image, with some fans hoping Gunn will #RestoreTheSnyderVerse or hire the director for another DC project. 

Acknowledging that he and Snyder "sometimes talk about different things," Gunn said the meaning behind the photos was simple: they wanted to break the internet. 

"We knew that people have this view that somehow we have been pitted against each other," Gunn remarked. "It’s odd to have someone who you’re friendly with in real life be the guy that is positioned as your Lex Luthor, or I’m his Lex Luthor. It’s just such a weird dynamic that’s been created between factions online."

Gunn and Snyder's relationship goes back to 2004 when the former wrote the script for Dawn of the Dead, the Man of Steel helmer's feature debut. Now, though, it's clear the only beef between them is the one that exists in the minds of some fans. 

Superman, DC Studios' first feature film to hit the big screen, is set to soar into theaters worldwide this summer from Warner Bros. Pictures.

In his signature style, James Gunn takes on the original superhero in the newly imagined DC universe with a singular blend of epic action, humor and heart, delivering a Superman who’s driven by compassion and an inherent belief in the goodness of humankind.  

Superman arrives in theaters on July 11, 2025.

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harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 2/24/2025, 5:08 PM
sydner should have been cast as gunn's superman
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V - 2/24/2025, 5:16 PM
@harryba11zack - well seeing who he casted for Hal Jordan, ZS would be the perfect age.
JurassicClunge
JurassicClunge - 2/24/2025, 5:09 PM
'We wanted to break the Internet'

No sir, you wanted to get the cult off your arse 😅
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 2/24/2025, 8:02 PM
@BraveNewClunge - who wouldnt want that with all the rabid and mindless cult members? Lolz
JurassicClunge
JurassicClunge - 2/25/2025, 2:32 AM
@vectorsigma - it's true but it didn't work 😅 the rabid brainless Gunn & Snyder cults are still fighting it out online 🤣
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 2/25/2025, 4:09 AM
@BraveNewClunge - at least he tried 😂
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 2/24/2025, 5:13 PM
He is, sadly, very correct that "a character that stands for something that is solid, for basic human morals, basic human integrity, the basic belief in protecting others the weak and being good to people and being honest" is not "a part of the cultural moment."
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 2/24/2025, 5:20 PM
@Clintthahamster - lol , sigh that’s true.

People are just so angry , jaded & cynical now that those very qualities seem too schmaltzy for people now sadly.
Deklipz
Deklipz - 2/24/2025, 5:34 PM
@Clintthahamster - correct. It’s been tossed solidly into a dumpster and lit on fire while bibble thumpers stand by cheering like it’s some kind of victory.
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 2/24/2025, 5:50 PM
@Deklipz - they want the end times
Deklipz
Deklipz - 2/25/2025, 12:11 AM
@ProfessorWhy - Yep, it’s sick
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 2/25/2025, 6:59 AM
@ProfessorWhy - This. I've lived in the American "Bible Belt" most of my life, and the apocalyptic accelerationism is real.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/25/2025, 9:16 AM
@Clintthahamster - No wonder Trump's their hero.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 2/25/2025, 9:29 AM
@ObserverIO - There are a lot more liberals and progressives in the south than folks realize. Sadly, between the electoral college and gerrymandered congressional maps, we have no voice at the federal level.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/25/2025, 9:40 AM
@Clintthahamster - Nobody truly does when Elon Musk has his hands on the electoral computers.
thobie1
thobie1 - 2/24/2025, 5:16 PM
Kudos to Gunn. We need movies like this right now.
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 2/24/2025, 5:18 PM
Well it's true. Being good is what Superman does best, it's only a "problem" when there's peer pressure around that makes you feel it isn't but that's an arc he always overcome. As we do as well.
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 2/24/2025, 5:19 PM
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MisterBones
MisterBones - 2/24/2025, 5:22 PM
“spending very little time on social media”
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DarkTanicus
DarkTanicus - 2/26/2025, 11:26 AM
@MisterBones - I know what you're thinking but that wasn't him 😉
TK420
TK420 - 2/24/2025, 5:22 PM
You mean Superman doesn't believe in "sex changes" for six-year-olds?
Thing94
Thing94 - 2/24/2025, 5:35 PM
@TK420 - Haha right!
captainwalker
captainwalker - 2/24/2025, 6:20 PM
@TK420 - Does he think taxpayer funds should pay for sex changes on 6 year olds in foreign countries too ?
LiquidSwords
LiquidSwords - 2/25/2025, 8:00 AM
@TK420 - 🎯
VileBlood
VileBlood - 2/25/2025, 12:35 PM
@TK420 - You mean Superman would prefer a child that commits suicide instead of having a sex-change?
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 2/24/2025, 5:24 PM
"He’s a character that stands for something that is solid, for basic human morals, basic human integrity, the basic belief in protecting others the weak and being good to people and being honest. He stands for what I think of as the rules that don’t change."

MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 2/24/2025, 5:31 PM
Kal-El doesn't like drugs, gangs, violence, unfairness, and injustice. He would not be a fan of Joe and Kamala.
Thing94
Thing94 - 2/24/2025, 5:35 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea - That cocaine in the white house...
bobevanz
bobevanz - 2/24/2025, 5:46 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea -
S8R8M
S8R8M - 2/24/2025, 7:57 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea - Why does politics always come up with you, Hermann?
What happened to you?
EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 2/24/2025, 9:08 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea - Who cares what Superman thinks, he's an illegal immigrant.
Pictilli
Pictilli - 2/24/2025, 9:42 PM
@EskimoJ - no, he's not, he's a US citizen, per US law. He also didn't even know he was an alien or from Krypton until years after he was already Superman, long into adulthood in the original comics.

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SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 2/24/2025, 10:07 PM
@Pictilli - Actually, after Trump's birthright citizenship ban order is passed, Superman would be branded as a illegal immigrant.
Pictilli
Pictilli - 2/24/2025, 10:13 PM
@SpiderParker - also false. Orphans are still citizens.
SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 2/24/2025, 10:34 PM
@Pictilli - Well, buddy, how about you prove it that he is orphan?
Pictilli
Pictilli - 2/24/2025, 10:53 PM
@SpiderParker - he's a white baby found off the street that the Kents adopted from an orphanage:

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or they just take him home to keep him safe from a snow storm and pass him as their own:

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Either way, still a legal US natural citizen.
SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 2/24/2025, 11:00 PM
@Pictilli - "US natural citizen"... Actually, he wasn't even born in US so birthright citizenship don't even apply. Technically, he will have to go through naturalization. But in any way, any citizenship obtained through misrepresentation can be revoked. What do you think Trump will do when he figures out Superman lied about being born in US to get Citizenship?
SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 2/24/2025, 11:05 PM
@Pictilli - What do you think US President Lex Luthor would have done if he found out Clark was Superman? (Hint: He already has personal means to make rockets for deportation.)
Pictilli
Pictilli - 2/25/2025, 12:02 AM
@SpiderParker - He is a legal US citizen in all versions. In Byrne's version, he is even born on earth since kryptonians were conceived & carried in a birthing matrix.

There's no misrepresentation: He's a white baby found on the side of the road inside of the US, why wouldn't he be an american? Why would anyone assume otherwise? How would anyone know otherwise if even Clark doesn't know? In order to misrepresent, you must have knowledge about something and conceal it, which is obviously not the case here.

SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 2/25/2025, 5:33 AM
@Pictilli - Technically, he can't be a legal citizen since he doesn't have a birth certificate or record.

"He's a white baby found on the side of the road inside of the US, why wouldn't he be an american?"

Because, by Trump's logic, if either one of the parent is not a US citizen then the child is not a US citizen either even if the child is born in US and has a US birth certificate. But since, Superman has no birth certificate that proves him to be born in US, he can't obtain citizenship. Either misrepresentation (faking a birth certificate) or no citizenship.
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