Kevin Feige Shares His SUPERMAN Review And Why He Doesn't Agree With Complaints About "Woke" MCU

Kevin Feige Shares His SUPERMAN Review And Why He Doesn't Agree With Complaints About "Woke" MCU

Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige has shared his thoughts on James Gunn's Superman and explains why he doesn't agree with those who argue that the MCU's issues are due to the franchise going "woke."

By JoshWilding - Jul 21, 2025 11:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Superman

Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige recently sat down with select press to address the past, present, and future of the MCU. It was a candid conversation, albeit one that saw him choose his words carefully. 

However, after acknowledging that the studio has had some quantity over quality issues in recent years, the executive pointed to Superman as proof that superhero fatigue isn't the issue some make it out to be.

"Look at 'Superman," he said of the movie that's grossed $407 million worldwide since opening last weekend. "It’s clearly not superhero fatigue, right? I liked it a lot. I love you just jump right into it. You don’t know who Mister Terrific is? Tough, you’ll figure it out. Just go, go. This is a fully fleshed-out world. David [Corenswet], the new Superman - he was awesome."

So, he was a fan of Superman, but did appear to clap back at James Gunn's repeated insinuations that, unlike Marvel Studios, DC Studios will never begin production on a movie without a completed script that he and Peter Safran are happy with. 

Confirming that Marvel Studios has never started a movie without a full script, Feige said his approach is simply to make sure they're "plus-ing [a movie] at every turn."

"There’s plus-ing happening every day on the Avengers: Doomsday set right now, and it is amazing to watch because what those filmmakers, those actors, both the ones that are playing these characters for the first or second time and the one playing them for the 10th or 12th time, are the best in the world at it, and know these characters so well."

He added, "So if they have an idea, you want to listen to it and you want to adjust to it and you want to improve it. I wouldn’t want to change that."

Feige also addressed the continued backlash to Hollywood DEI (diversity, equity and inclusion) and accusations that the MCU's struggles are a result of the franchise going "woke." 

"I said this before 'woke' and 'DEI' became a thing, and I’m still saying it after: Marvel is the world outside your window," Feige shared. "It’s not Gotham City and Metropolis. This is New York and L.A.. And yes, there’s also Wakanda and Asgard, but it is all made up of the people who make up our world."

Captain America: Brave New World and The Marvels underperformed, but none of those characters are going to be sidelined. Feige hailed Ms. Marvel actor Iman Vellani as "one of the greatest bits of casting we’ve ever done" and teased, "I think [Iman] is awesome, both in real life and on the show, and I can’t wait to see her in the future."

"It always comes down to where the best story is and which characters would be great interacting with each other," he concluded.

Proving that Marvel Studios won't start shying away from diverse projects is the fact that Blade, Black Panther 3, and the X-Men reboot are all on the horizon. In terms of female-led projects, that's less certain as female superheroes have long been a tough sell for many moviegoers. 

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AllsGood
AllsGood - 7/21/2025, 11:27 AM
Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige has shared his thoughts on James Gunn's Superman and explains why he doesn't agree with those who argue that the MCU's issues are due to the franchise going "woke."

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McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/21/2025, 11:38 AM
Wait he's ignoring greenlighting without a script when we have had multiple sources confirm that Doomsday went forward without a third act in the screenplay?
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 7/21/2025, 11:49 AM
@McMurdo - Who were these sources? The same rumor sites who claimed Superman was bad? The same rumor sites you dismissed when they were trying to smear Superman but completely accept as fact when they smear Marvel Studios?
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/21/2025, 11:38 AM
A script is a blueprint. Like a house before you make it.

If you keep on "plus-ing", good luck in having a good final product within the planned budget.

Feige always making up excuses. 😭

Gunn's approach is the best and he learned that seeing how effed up marvel's process is 😂
MisterDoctor217
MisterDoctor217 - 7/21/2025, 1:13 PM
@vectorsigma -

I mean I think it depends on the talent and how much work they put into it.

Iron Man had no script and it’s one of the best MCU movies, changed the game.

But with Waldron involved, yeah idk
They just need better writers
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/21/2025, 1:28 PM
@MisterDoctor217 - iron man was a stroke of luck. It was the first one so there was no baggage of considering a lot of things in the universe. They just focused on making a good film.

And it seems they thought "ironman worked out like that, lets continue this process". It wont be sustainable anynore nowadays.
MisterDoctor217
MisterDoctor217 - 7/21/2025, 1:37 PM
@vectorsigma -
Sometimes it is sometimes it isn’t

I think it depends on the writers
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/21/2025, 1:54 PM
@MisterDoctor217 - yeah, good writers help ofc. And the best approach is let your good writer finish the script first before shooting
Itwasme
Itwasme - 7/21/2025, 11:39 AM
Woke is thrown around everywhere by people who seem too sensitive to deal with the world around them. Suck it up and they'll be fine.
Equivocal
Equivocal - 7/22/2025, 12:01 AM
@Itwasme -

it's hilarious how some ppl throw the word "woke" as if it was an insult !

the only only ones that are affected by that word are the MagaTurds
the rest of the world don't care

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bobevanz
bobevanz - 7/21/2025, 11:39 AM
Stop trying to make plus-ing a thing. Just say you don't know wtf to do
Ironbot
Ironbot - 7/21/2025, 11:39 AM
Iron Man was a commentary on the military industrial complex and corporate power, this franchise was ALWAYS woke.
FinnishDude
FinnishDude - 7/21/2025, 12:17 PM
@Ironbot - Black Panther, their most succesful solo movie pre-NWH and the first superhero movie ever to be nominated for the best picture is also arguably the most "woke" thing they have ever produced. Clearly that's is not and has never been a problem they should be worried about.
kider2
kider2 - 7/21/2025, 12:52 PM
@Ironbot - Was it though? It ultimately reinforces the same power structures it pretends to question. Tony Stark doesn’t dismantle the system he simply internalizes it. Instead of democratizing or abolishing the weapons industry, he privatizes the most advanced weapon on Earth and places it solely under his control. The film and Iron Man in general is glorifying the individualist, technocratic savior. Stark isn’t punished or held accountable for profiting from war for years. In the end he’s celebrated for reinventing himself as a cooler, more controlled warlord. He made his weapons more marketable to kids (see iron man 2)
In the end the films still endorse American exceptionalism and corporate monopoly.

The only thing it really does is show at the end Tony Stark becomes a "benevolent billionaire" I wouldn't call that very deep commentary honestly.
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 7/21/2025, 2:05 PM
@Ironbot - Sorry, but commentary about the military industrial complex and corporate power is not woke. It's commentary about the military industrial complex and corporate power.
soberchimera
soberchimera - 7/21/2025, 11:41 AM
I love you just jump right into it. You don’t know who Mister Terrific is? Tough, you’ll figure it out. Just go, go.
It would have taken Feige 3 films to flesh out Michael Holt's origin before he finally became Mr. Terrific.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 7/21/2025, 11:42 AM
@soberchimera - so [frick]ing true lmao
DocSpock
DocSpock - 7/21/2025, 11:42 AM

Woke is a badly misused worn out word.

The Marvels didn't fail because of a female lead. It failed because it was horrible. Remember Captain Marvel had the same lead and made a billion $.

FalCap BNW didn't fail because of its bland black lead. It failed because it was a limp mediocre at best movie. Black Panther had a black lead and topped a billion $.

Make bad movies, and they flop. Duh.

Wahhvacado
Wahhvacado - 7/21/2025, 11:48 AM
@DocSpock - Agreed, quality took a hard nose dive and there are multiple factors at play that influenced it but to me being "woke" wasn't the issue. The issue was flat uninspired movies and shows and casting a net far too wide instead of pushing towards a story.

I did thoroughly enjoy Thunderbolts but it's clear people have gotten burned out
TheIronDuck
TheIronDuck - 7/21/2025, 11:57 AM
@Wahhvacado - the burn out was because of the tedious albeit unintended gaps between narrative threads not the amount of content.
mountainman
mountainman - 7/21/2025, 12:39 PM
@DocSpock - What Feige mentioned about 2 of The Marvels leads being from TV shows was a valid reason for the movie’s poor performance though.

That movie more than any other MCU movie suffered from the movie/show synergy that the MCU was pushing a few years back.

Personally I think The Marvels is better than Captain Marvel. Neither is good, but the sequel was at least less unemployable.
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 7/21/2025, 12:46 PM
@DocSpock - But when you have 3 female co-leads fighting a female villain and an utterly emasculated Nick Fury ... sorry, that has neo-feminist nonsense written all over it, and general audiences aren't going to go to the theater to know whether it's actually a horrible movie.
Martianhunter
Martianhunter - 7/21/2025, 2:47 PM
@GeneralZod - Not only that, we have completely different tone for characters. Fury feels completely different in Avengers, marvels and secret invasion to the point audience is having doubt if they are watching same characters or they are replaced by skrull.

Original fury:
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Fury who lost his marvels:

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GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 7/21/2025, 3:35 PM
@Martianhunter - Exactly.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 7/21/2025, 4:31 PM
@TheIronDuck - Also they've been selling us a bunch of also-rans instead of marquee characters.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 7/21/2025, 7:06 PM
@Wahhvacado -

Me too. I really liked Thunderbolts. But, you are right. So many lousy D+ MCU shows and half the MCU movies in the last 5 years have been absolute crap. That turned off LOTS of people.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 7/21/2025, 7:12 PM
@mountainman -

I agree with what you said. I don't agree on those 2 movies. I gave Captain Marvel 7.5/10. I liked it. I gave Marvels 2/10. I thought it was horrible. But I certainly respect your differing opinion.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 7/21/2025, 7:15 PM
@GeneralZod -

I couldn't agree more. It looked like sh!t. It smelled like sh!t. It was sh!t. And a few unlucky super fans like us stepped in it. OUCH!!
WelcomeBackFrank
WelcomeBackFrank - 7/21/2025, 11:48 AM
He didn’t address it all. He just sounded like he didn’t mind selling out and selling out characters all for an agenda or “rEpReSeNtAtIoN.” Look at “Ironheart.” They changed Slug into what could’ve been a visually-impressive character similar to Jabba the Hutt and instead made him some sassy drag queen. They could’ve had the Blood Brothers, also, be visually appealing but nope… they too had to be changed for DEI and Wokeness.

Look at changing Johnny Blaze’s cousin to a black female in “Agatha” all because there was a shortage of black females on that show. All of these decisions—- all of these things Marvel does, Disney does, Pixar, Lucasfilm you name it is all because some pansy white male feminist, some powerful liberal white woman executive or BIPOC head of a studio only focuses on these things and guys like Feige don’t want to upset the powers that be let alone his fellow liberal friends so he caves in and then pretends like you’re the problem. Not them solely focusing on race, gender, sexuality etc over story as a problem.
TheTyrantVirus
TheTyrantVirus - 7/21/2025, 11:57 AM
@WelcomeBackFrank - This is a lot of words to say "I only like white men."
EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 7/21/2025, 12:15 PM
@TheTyrantVirus - It's also projection at its finest.

The race/gender/sexual orientation/what-have-you is the thing that sticks out most to them, so naturally it must have been the focus of the people making the product.

"Johnny Blaze's cousin... a black woman"; nobody actually cared about that, plus, she was good in the show anyway.
ElvenKingSlayer
ElvenKingSlayer - 7/21/2025, 12:28 PM
@AnEye - Good one!
What other cards do you have?
Yetiman
Yetiman - 7/23/2025, 2:27 AM
@ElvenKingSlayer - they have no rebuttals and just use the race card every time.
Thing94
Thing94 - 7/21/2025, 12:28 PM
They need to replace Feige
Yetiman
Yetiman - 7/23/2025, 2:31 AM
@Thing94 - I agree
karlel
karlel - 7/21/2025, 12:30 PM
"It always comes down to where the best story is and which characters would be great interacting with each other" That's a pretty stupid thing to say out loud when ultimately, it has been the opposite for many movies now. They didn't start with a story, they started with a check-box. If they were serving a story, the same tired trope wouldn't be riddled through the last batch of movies they've pumped out. It's the same story over and over. Male hero needs to be helped because he is long in the tooth. For some reason, the male hero even becomes dumber than they ever were and the only way they can push forward is with the help of a woman who will take every opportunity to minimize not only the man himself, but the hard work/effort/intention that the man put forth before this lady ever showed up. That's not female empowerment, that's some weak bastardized version of it. Making a female character awesome hasn't been a priority since Wanda in Avengers AoU. They had a chance with Ms. Marvel but they chose...another route. Now, the greatest and most powerful female in the MCU is either dead, or has become enough of a villain to make a lot of people hate her now. I hope they fix the trainwreck, and I hope it starts with Fantastic 4, but I'm not hopeful.
Arthorious
Arthorious - 7/21/2025, 12:39 PM
To be fair, for those who are directors and producers for superhero movies, will they ever say that they don't like another's property?
Sinner
Sinner - 7/21/2025, 3:22 PM
@Arthorious - Yes. See Zack Snyder and David Ayer.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 7/21/2025, 12:50 PM
“𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐟𝐢𝐫𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐌𝐚𝐫𝐯𝐞𝐥 𝐒𝐭𝐮𝐝𝐢𝐨𝐬 𝐡𝐚𝐬 𝐧𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐚 𝐦𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐞 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐚 𝐟𝐮𝐥𝐥 𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐩𝐭…”

Maybe im reading this wrong but do you mean they have never started a movie with a full script?.

I could be wrong but they have always been working on the script , even in reshoots since the first Iron Man and it’s never really complete till the films done …

Every big movie or film in general does “plus-ing” to one degree or another so it’s not unusual as some like to think it is.

Anyway glad on Feige for ignoring the woke comments since as he said , Marvel should always reflect the world outside our window at that time so I’m glad they will continue to do so!!.
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 7/21/2025, 1:28 PM
Sorry but....anyone using the word "woke"...Im just not taking you seriously and I'll just assume you have a mental disability.
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