Mark Millar Fights Back Against Superman Allegations!

@ multi

i don't know man. i'd be mad too if people were making allegations about me if they weren't true. especially if that person was an "unknown source" that won't even show themselves to back up their claims.

i tend to lean more toward believing millar. and he's not claiming anything ridiculous. it sounds like they were talking more with Vaughn, than with him.

based on what millar is saying, they didn't want Millar, but he came as a packaged deal with Vaughn. so the studio said no. nothing too outlandish about that.

Personally, I believe him.

Regardless of whether or not he is telling the truth though he still remains one of, if not THE, best comic book writers around today! (Kick-Ass, Old Man Logan, Civil War, Marvel Knights Spider-Man, Wolverine: Enemy of the State, Fantastic Four...all brilliant!!!)

I'm on team Jacob and team miller. Also team Angelina. Unknown sources are pussies. They should either reveal themselves or shut up.

Lol, cheers tea! And hey, the Kick-Ass graphic novel is now in stock on Amazon and Waterstones! :)

Don't really care if he has or hasn't talked to WB about it. What counts is he had an interesting idea, but it is not gonna be made this time around. So Millar just focus on "Nemesis" for now, that Shiiit is looking sweet!

Multi- Hmmm... i get what you're saying. That could be true, good point ;)

Josh- Moore was very good for his time but is very very over rated today. I only read Watchmen which i found to be pretty flawed. It was a great read on it's own but it seems like it was meant to be controversial without thoroughly thinking details through. IMO, it fell apart.

Millar writes comics to write comics, like he should.

@Corndog: Yeah only thing I fear is that it ends up just like his Superman idea, and that is as just an Idea. Because Mark has a lot of good ideas, but I still think he needs the last absolute to finish his products.

So again, Millar just focus on "Nemesis" and not worrying about whatever WB think is the truth...

CDB: True, but you cant beat the Red Skull dressed as Captain America taking on Wolverine with a sword who's defending himself with Cap's shield, lol!



MULTI: Yeah, I guess that a lot of it comes down to personal preference but I just enjoy his writing more. Watchmen is a great story but I found it a chore to read...I'm just not a fan of Moore's writing style - his Captain Britain work was superb but I just dont like the way he writes! Hard to explain really!

Shaman: I agree - Millar writes comic books how I like them to be! A great story, characters you can care about and action that rivals Hollywood blockbusters! Plus, the guy seems to be the master of the cliffhanger!

PETE: Definitely! His take on Superman would have been interesting but I'd rather he devotes his time to Marvel and his great independent work like Kick-Ass and Nemesis! Superman is in good hands with Goyer!

@ multi

thats a good comparison!!! i think millar has a good take on originality/"moderness: too though. i know there are a LOT of Ultimate haters on this site, and something that gets brought up a lot is Cap kicking Banner in the face. people cry and say, "Cap would NEVER do that!"

what they forget is that the Ultimate Universe is SUPPOSED to be a new take on the characters! there would be no reason to make the series if they didn't change the characters, lol. thats the whole point.

i'm getting off topic, but the point is, Millar did a great job with Cap. he took the idea of a "grizzled WWII era soldier" and made it more modern and realistic. lets face it, any soldier in WWII killed people. its ridiculous to think Cap never killed anyone. lol. that to me, is what makes Millar so good. his originality and modern take on old heroes.

i still love the 616 better, but Millar did amazing work with Ultimates.

Millar better than Alan Moore? When Millar writes a story that is recognized by Time Magazine as one of the "all time top 100 novels" (only ONE comic is on this list), a story that has remained constantly available for over TWENTY years, and whose other works are widely regarded and treasured for their brilliance, then we can talk.

I know that Moore doesn't like seeing his work trashed to put it on screen, but at least, unlike Millar, he has no problem with his comics being reprinted in trade paperbacks. I remember Millar saying a few years back that he hated trade paperbacks and didn't want to see his stories reprinted in that format. Excuse me, some of us can't afford first prints of very popular books. Some of us are quite fine with buying trade paperbacks and getting to enjoy stories we never could afford otherwise.

CDB: I completely agree with you about The Ultimates - when you accept that they're different versions of the original characters then its great stuff! Personally, I loved Cap kicking Banner in the face! :)

Comicb00kguy: Wow, so just because some journalists from The Times think that Watchmen is good that makes Moore a better writer? Riiiiiight... And all of Miller's work is critically acclaimed - he hasnt been around writing for 20 years so you cant compare them in that way either!

@ josh

the Ultimate universe is no different than any other out of continuity story. (ahem ahem, Dark Knight Returns anyone?? that was the gruffest, most grizzled version of Batman anyone has EVER seen, yet that story is completely accepted. yet, a similar take on Cap is not? go figure huh?)

best Ultimate Cap line of all time. "GIVE UP?!?!?! DO YOU THINK THIS "A" ON MY HEAD STANDS FOR FRANCE?!?!?!"

i laughed so hard when i read that the first time. great stuff! sure it was a little edgier than 616 Cap would be, but at the same time, its still the same "never give up" attitude that Cap should have.

@MPP: I think you're letting your personal feelings about Millar cloud your judgement.

I've never seen his comments as "ramblings", just straight up Scots talk and it shows extreme bias on your part when you say you'd rather take the word of an anonymous "unnamed source" who doesn't have a reputation to risk over the ON RECORD words of someone who is in the business and whose career could be harmed if misinterpreted. He's right to be angry at what seems to be outright bullshit solely aimed at harming his reputation.

You yourself completely got the wrong end of the stick in your "Contradicting Reports over The Avengers" article, by jumping on - and misquoting - Millar - he never said there WAS a script and his words were they would be using "material from" the Ultimates, which, as he's said, we already know is absolutely true.

That was you reporting your personal (mis)interpretation of people's non-contradictory statements as NEWS, when it was clearly opinion disguised as fact. You are abusing your 'power' at the site by using the News area as your personal soap-box - and possibly harming the site's overall reputation by doing so too. Editorial would have been a much more appropriate place for that article, if you do feel the need to 'have a go' at someone.

You don't have to like Millar, but if you want to make any pretence of unbiased reporting, you need to separate those feelings from the objective truth.

@ quagmire

i'll agree with you that Millar sells out for movies. there's no denying that. like you said, just look at Wanted. that was terrible, and he totally supported it for nothing more than money.

the guy is still talented though. he wouldn't be as popular and critically acclaimed for his comics if that wasn't the case.

but i gotta disagree with you about Watchmen. next to Sin City, it was the closest adaptation we've seen yet. the only change of any significance was the missing monster at the end. but you know what?? it made more sense to do it the way the movie did. in the comic, the squid didn't do ANYTHING. it appeared, then promptly exploded. its not like there was any kind of confrontation with it or anything, AND the story stayed intact even with that change. so no big deal.

also, if you have such obvious contempt for Comic Book Movies, then what the hell are you doing here?? i mean, i assume you realize you're on COMICBOOKMOVIE.COM lol

and don't try to act like you know why i hate Alan Moore by making idiotic blanket-ass statements. i think its admirable that he doesn't take any of the money for films based on his work that he does't endorse. and i'll admit that he's one of, if not THE best comic writer of our time. but i'll go back to Watchmen. one of the most faithful comic book movie adaptations yet. it captured everything of importance that was in the comic. but you know what? Moore will never know that because he'll NEVER even watch it, or give it a chance. he claims that his books CAN'T be faithfully put on film, yet he won't even give them a chance to see if thats true. Thats why i hate Alan Moore. not because he isn't talented, because he is, and i love his work. but because he's a stubborn old recluse who won't look past his own ego.

Haha, Alan's been pretty much out of comics for 5 years or so, not twenty. :P He built ABC in the late 90's. People act like he was a golden age writer.

And he isn't a bastard, he's just protective of the lineage of his stories. He wants them to be remembered for HIS work and not for the work of dumb hollywood douchbags that turn Mina into a crazy vampire b!tc#. There's nothing wrong with that.
Considering the botched attempts at 'From Hell' and 'League' and the publicity mishap with V, he's been burned too many times and he got fed up with it, end of story.

And Millar loving his movie adaptations doesn't make him a sell-out, he's just a fanboy who loves to see his work on screen. He's not an intense artist like Alan and he doesn't take it as seriously. A lot of people liked the film version of Wanted... honestly, I wasn't one of them, but is it so hard to believe that he genuinely liked it too? It made like 300+ million bucks locally. A lot of people dug it.

Fans love to pump out the hate for creators they've never met, don't they... am I crazy for being the peace-nic on this one? Why does there have to be sides. Both of these guys are on my bookshelf, on a lot of ours. And no - I'm not on ecstasy right now.