More From Joe Quesada On "Thor"

More From Joe Quesada On "Thor"

More from Quesadas blog. Apparently Kenneth Branagh Taking ‘Very Shakespearean’ Approach to ‘Thor,’

By LEEE777 - Jun 18, 2009 05:06 AM EST
Filed Under: Thor
Source: MTV Splash page



From MTV Splash Page

Describing Branagh as “very Shakespearean,” Quesada said that the “Thor” director had a phenomenal grasp on the characters of Thor, Loki, Odin and the rest of the film’s cast.

“He’s definitely about character, which is the quintessential trait you have to have to understand the Marvel characters,” he said. “It’s not just big hammers and capes and things like that. It’s about what makes the character tick. There’s definitely a reason for Thor, a reason for him being and a very deep family relationship and story in the movie that I think is going to be very cool.”

Quesada also addressed some of the fears associated with “Thor” — namely, is an old English-speaking Norse God with an oversized hammer going to fill out theater seats in the same way that Jon Favreau’s “Iron Man” did?

“I think it’s going to be [a tougher sell] on the surface,” he agreed. “[But we've] got plans already to get Thor’s name out within a younger group of kids. I think the upcoming ‘Super Hero Squad’ and ‘Avengers Animated’ shows are going to do wonders to get that across, and then we’re working on a couple of ancillary things here and there to boost the desire for kids in particular to know more about Thor and the general public as well.”



LEEE777 - Well this is very cool news, it means no Ultimate Thor!

Whats your views on this? I for one am tired of watered down versions of our favorite heroes on the big screen, so this is awesome news in my book, i just knew Branagh wouldn't let us down. I for one cannot wait, bring it on!

Thor could become the EPIC it was destined to be! ; )
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LEEE777
LEEE777 - 6/18/2009, 5:04 AM
CLICK ON THE HULK FINGER LEFT TOP CORNER! ; )

Plug plug plug....... : D
RacerX
RacerX - 6/18/2009, 5:11 AM
Thor is gonna be awesome as long as they don't use the Ultimate Version, because let's face it the Ultimates are just dumbed down versions of our favorite characters for people who don't like to read a lot of speech bubbles.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 6/18/2009, 5:13 AM
RacerX @ That's exactly what ive been saying man lol! : D
theFACE
theFACE - 6/18/2009, 6:40 AM
Holla at ya Boi! i feel ya dawg!
TheJester
TheJester - 6/18/2009, 6:51 AM
The Ultimate story arc is a logical choice to draw on as source material for putting it to screen. Its not the sickening "bubble gum" crap that's been spoon fed to comic readers for the last 75 years.

People today are de-sensitized, and wouldn't buy into the stories of old. The Ultimates was a genius move, to give the characters a new start, try to appeal to a new generation of comic readers.

Sure, there are some stories in the arc that's...well...dumb..(to me). But as a whole? Its great.



OptionFour
OptionFour - 6/18/2009, 7:13 AM
This is kind of vague, actually. I wouldn't take it to mean Old English speaking, necessarily. Shakespeare was famous and renowned for a lot of things besides olde words and iambic pentameter. Saying he's taking a "very Shakespearean" approach could mean its character driven, it could be a reference to it being a period piece, or even to costume, themes, and mood.

It probably does mean dialogue - but I wouldn't say that's a 100% promise on it. I wouldn't want you to be disappointed if it turns out otherwise.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 6/18/2009, 7:17 AM
ULTIMATES was a sell out move!!! Lol : D

Classic THOR can be done right, it won't be silly on screen, you got BRANAGH doing it ffs!

Yeah lets all have a green peace hippy loving god instead lmfao! (Yes i know classic has long hair lol, but he has a cool helmet, which can be improved upon on the big screen).

BRANAGH = THOR = EPIC!!! ; )


Yeah OptionFour @ Though its still good news man!
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 6/18/2009, 7:33 AM
Hes already said that they wont be doing the classic "Thee Thou" dialogue anyway.

Leee that greenpeace hippy Thor was only one aspect of Ultimate Thors personality, he still kicked ass! And there is a hell of a lot more to the character than "Ill bash thee with my Hammer cos thou art evil" classic The Mighty BORE"
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 6/18/2009, 7:39 AM
Its called taste! Either you got it or you ain't lol! : D

ROR @ we know you like the Ultimate one which is cool, but most don't! An classic THOR is a hard nut??? I won't be too cut up though if BLAKE is in it or not. The movie should be about THOR an his origin!

I can see this being the Superhero LOTR of movies!!!
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 6/18/2009, 7:49 AM
Nice pic SirPrize! ; )
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 6/18/2009, 7:50 AM
I agree Lee, most prefer classic. But i dont think they are considering the change thats going to happen in the movie..when he becomes an Avenger! These things have to be taken into account and everyone is just so adamant that they dont want Ultimate Thor that they are not seeing the big picture
longbowhunter
longbowhunter - 6/18/2009, 7:53 AM
I recall early on there being some concern over linking this movie to the real world feel of Iron Man for the Avengers movie. I think they need to include Donald Blake if they're looking to do so.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 6/18/2009, 7:58 AM
But its the AVENGERS being made and not the ULTIMATES!!!

Anyway i think it would work well, after all a GOD would speak funny??? In AVENGERS the World wont get around an wont believe he is a god even the AVENGERS wont believe it, thinking he's just a mixed up Superhero/mutie or something! Probably they go an call on THOR when the HULK don't work out (hence HULK loses it) an AVENGERS cant handle him without the help of THOR!

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Maybe @ Longbowhunter @

Another fine pic SirPrize@ !!! Though, i want the classic hammer, but cool outfit! ; )
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 6/18/2009, 8:20 AM
Yeah SirPrize @ Glowing type thing to it, i like that, shows power!!! But not too glowing lol!
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 6/18/2009, 8:30 AM
You just described what happens in The Ultimates Lee!

Also they are making a movie. Not Avengers or Ultimates, a movie based on these characters. You can bet they will take elements from every single aspect and situation they have been in. I think thats for the best anyway.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 6/18/2009, 8:50 AM
Its called AVENGERS! But yeah they will take stuff from both, hell we already got a crappy FURY lol! Man, BRUCE WILLIS would have been so better! Look, im just happy as long as THOR don't lose his trademark Helmet an Hammer, then it feels like the real THOR! That's mainly what i wanna see on screen, lose them, you lose THOR!

I still have nightmares watching them animated ULTIMATE movies OMG lol!
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 6/18/2009, 8:56 AM
IT'LL BE COOL TO SEE HIM SPIN HIS HAMMER..CASTING IT UPWARDS AND HIM WITH IT,STOPPING IN MID AIR IN A SUDDENLY CLOUDED SKY..THEN THUNDER RAINING DOWN BEHIND HIM, VOICE ALL BOOMING LIKE IN A CATHEDRAL" I AM THOR, GAWD OF THUNDER, AN I SHALT KICK THOU ASS!"...IN REALISM ON SCREEN THAT WILL BE SIIIICK.
Shaman
Shaman - 6/18/2009, 8:57 AM
It is for the best and if it wasn't for Ultimate Thor, this movie would have never been made. The merger of the two is what will make it great on screen. Unfortunitely it will get it's ass handed to them by Green Lantern unless they push back the date. Give themselves some breathing room ya know.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 6/18/2009, 9:00 AM
Yep GUNSMITH @ it will! ; )

SHAMAN @ Are you for real lol!

ACKLES for THORS smelly socks! : D
StephenStrange
StephenStrange - 6/18/2009, 9:03 AM
The article says he (Quesada) describes him (Branagh) as being Shakespearan. As afar as we know that does not include the movie and or the dialect used in it. That's not the part that concerns me.
What is interesting is that later on Quesada makes reference to tranlating an Old English speaking Thor into the ultra rational Favreau movie universe.

So there simply is no palpable evidence of anything in this article without reading into it.

I have a belief about why Marvel writers chose to have Thor speak using what is properly known in Linguistics as Early Modern English. They did that because that was the language used in the time of the publication of the King James Bible and in the 60's that was the version most prominently in use. So they used that dialect to cause readers to make the mental connection between the God of the Bible and the Norse God of Thunder. Because in the mind of readers in the 1960's, beyond the way the Bible uses this word "God" the word has virtually no meaning.
Well be that as it may, I am sure at the time they believed this to be a clever and subversive way to explain why Thor was so powerful. But that was then and this is now. I cannot think of any reason why they should have Thor use words from Early Modern English. They should have him simply use English with a Scandanavian accent.

I haven't read the Ultimates so I can't call it as far as what they should do or not do. But I can tell you one thing. When I see pictures of Ultimate Marvel characters, the changes made to the outfits mostly look arbitrary, and trifling. It's as though they were done for the mere purpose of differentiation from the Classic and no other.
I saw a picture of Ultimate Thor for the first time two days ago and what I saw was a wet hippie with a hatchet, headlights on his shirt and no war helmet. All I could think was that this just isn't Thor.
ViperXX79
ViperXX79 - 6/18/2009, 9:25 AM
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 6/18/2009, 9:27 AM
ViperXX79 @ Now that's the AVENGERS!!!! ; )
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 6/18/2009, 9:29 AM
DarthMulder @ Your damn right man! That ain't THOR!
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 6/18/2009, 9:33 AM
ULTIMATE THOR IS A JUMPER FROM THE ORIGINAL..WHY WOULD YOU NOT START FROM THE BEGINNING?IF YOU START OFF WITH AN ULTIMATE THOR YOU DISRESPECT WHERE IT CAME FROM, YOU DONT START WITH THE XEROX COPY YOU START WITH THE ORIGINAL..
topcat10
topcat10 - 6/18/2009, 9:37 AM
As long as Mjolnir looks like a HAMMER and not the 1/3rd Axe, 1/3rd Bell, 1/3rd Spear nonsense that the stupid 'Ultimate' Thor has
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 6/18/2009, 9:48 AM
GUNSMITH @ HELL YEAH!!!

Topcat10 @ =
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Teabag @ Educating people on THOR is right! ; )

Shaman
Shaman - 6/18/2009, 10:09 AM
LEEE- What they did with TIH, IRONMAN and Nick Fury is what they'll do to THOR. Get over your childish tantrums. NO they WON'T ONLY use Ultimate Thor, they'll use SOME OF IT and some of your oh so beloved classic Thor. The reality, weither you choose to admit it or not, is that without ultimate Thor, this movie would not be made. They will incorporate the best in both worlds to blow our minds like they have done with they're last two films. IT WILL BE AWESOME!!! GL on the other hand, will be an out of this world experience which will eat up Thor's ass so hopefully they won't go head to head at the box office. Give them at least a few weeks in between.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 6/18/2009, 10:23 AM
SHAMAN ??? Ofcourse this movie would get made at some point if that ULTIMATE THOR was here or not???? That's like saying SPIDER-MAN movie wouldn't of been made without ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN? An i know they'll use both lol! Like i said as long as he's got the classic hammer an helmet! Childish lol, that's funny!!! : D

Anyways, i hope for the best for THOR and GREEN LANTERN both deserve to be EPICS!!! An i agree, a few weeks inbetween both movies is a must, well really a month! ; )
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 6/18/2009, 10:28 AM
Lol!
SuperSkrull
SuperSkrull - 6/18/2009, 10:39 AM
@Shaman - I don't want these two movies released any where near each other because, done right, they'll both be monsters! They should release one at the beginning of summer, the other at the end to ensure such a situation.

You're right that they need to draw from ALL versions of Thor to get the best, not just Classic. I don't like Ultimates, but there are ideas to be taken from that line.
Shaman
Shaman - 6/18/2009, 11:41 AM
LEEE- The Ultimate line is the biggest reason why Marvel didn't have to file for bankruptcy. So in a way, The Ultimate line IS why we ever got to see Marvel heroes on the screen aside from Blade and X-Men to which we all know that Marvel didn't make much money off those, having sold the rights. And yes, they did take a few notes from Ultimate Spider-man for the movie. So even though the stories were a bit lacking, The Ultimate Line was a genius move.

And yes, they will need to get these guys apart if they really wanna rake in as much as they need to keep the franchises going individually. If they come out on the same date, y'all know this is bound to happen:



Come on teabag, put on your THOR outfit on... i got my new avatar for the occasion LOL :P
jmg134
jmg134 - 6/18/2009, 11:41 AM
I hope the dialog for Thor is more in line of Lord of the Rings. If there is too much of the Shakesperean dialog it might put off movie viewers. I like how JMS, the current Thor writer has the Asgardians talk. Its very noble and majestic without all the confusing Shakesperean language.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 6/18/2009, 11:44 AM
DAMN, i think its time for VIKING women!!! : D

An me too jmg134 @ !

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LEEE777
LEEE777 - 6/18/2009, 11:46 AM
DAMN, SHAMAN @ I like that THOR & GL pic!!! ; ) An cool!
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