Marc Guggenheim Confirms No More Island Flashbacks After ARROW Season 5

Marc Guggenheim Confirms No More Island Flashbacks After ARROW Season 5

Tired of those Arrow flashbacks? Well, you're in luck...sort of. It's now been confirmed that the upcoming season will be the last to feature the story device when it comes to Oliver's time on the island...

By MattBellissimo - Aug 12, 2016 03:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Arrow
Source: ComicBook.com
While Arrow has taken the most criticism for the 'Olicity' relationship, the runner-up would have to be the flashbacks that have only become more and more convoluted as the seasons go by. What started as an interesting look at Oliver's time on Lian-Yu quickly took a turn for the worse in season 3 when it was revealed he didn't actually spend five years on the island, but was recruited to work for A.R.G.U.S., among other things. While showrunner Wendy Mericle previously confirmed that season 5 would show us how Oliver got his connections with the Russian mob, executive producer Marc Guggenheim has now confirmed that the show's fifth season will be the last to feature Oliver's flashbacks.

"Last year, when we sort of realized we're going to go past Season 5, we basically made a collective decision that Season 5 would be the final year of flashbacks," said Guggenheim to IGN. "Next year, in Season 6, what we'll end up doing is we'll do some episodes without any sort of flashbacks. We've [also] established over the first four seasons of proof of concept that we can do flashback stories that don't involve what I call the island narrative, even when he's not on the island."

Before you start cheering, bear in mind that flashbacks aren't disappearing as a whole, and will continue as part of the show's narrative, just not with respect to Oliver's time on the island.  "We still want to make that part of our storytelling, because we do like them. We like when those non-island flashbacks sort of illuminate what's going on in the present day," Guggenheim added. "That'll always be a part of the show and a part of the show's storytelling structure. It just won't be telling a serialized story."

Guggenheim also took responsibility for season 4's flashbacks, which drew criticism for not being connected to the main storyline. "In the first three years, we always tried to connect the flashbacks with what was happening in the present day. This is my bad: I sort of felt going into Season 4 that that was tying our hands, that oh, we could only tell stories that tied up with the present days. So I told the writers in the beginning of Season 4, let's free ourselves of that burden, and it didn't work," Guggenheim said. "People were only interested in the flashbacks if they did connect up with the present day."

Guggenheim didn't rule out the possibility of there being flashbacks for characters other than Oliver, or showing flash-forwards into the future. "We might even do a flashforward. You never know!" he said. "I think it would be fun to do it with Oliver. It might be fun to do it with Diggle." Given that we've already had a glimpse of Oliver's future in Legends Of Tomorrow, maybe we could see Connor Hawke again down the line.

Are you excited for this new development, or do you want to see flashbacks disappear entirely? Sound off below!
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ManDeth
ManDeth - 8/12/2016, 4:27 AM
They never explained how Oliver developed the skills he had in season 1. His skills have become a joke since. But in early seasons he could do things with a bow that are impossible. And he was trained in hand to hand combat. Instead of explaining his training they series sidestepped it. He learned the science of archery just because he wanted to know it. He conditioned his body and training in martial arts just because he saw some action here and there. No one ever trained him.

So the entire island origin story fell apart back in season 2. Someone can piece it all together later and it explains nothing.
MattBellissimo
MattBellissimo - 8/12/2016, 4:36 AM
@ManDeth - There's still season 5 to possibly explain that. With someone like Dolph Lundgren in the mix, it's entirely possible he could learn more in the fighting department. They also have to explain how he gets back on the damn island...
nibs
nibs - 8/12/2016, 5:20 AM
@ManDeth - His sister became a superhero in like a week dude, didn't you know that you just have to watch a couple Tom Cruise movies to be a badass?
BloodyBed
BloodyBed - 8/12/2016, 5:57 AM
@nibs - you stop!
ManDeth
ManDeth - 8/12/2016, 7:29 AM
@nibs - She was trained by The Gimp!
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