LOKI Season 2 Almost Featured Multiversal War; Loki Variant Was Briefly Considered For He Who Remains

LOKI Season 2 Almost Featured Multiversal War; Loki Variant Was Briefly Considered For He Who Remains

One of Loki season 2's executive producers has confirmed we almost got to see a full-blown Multiversal War in this latest batch of episodes and confirms a Loki Variant was considered for He Who Remains...

By JoshWilding - Oct 16, 2023 09:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Loki
Source: Den Of Geek

We're now two episodes into Loki's second season and all eyes are on the series to see how it will set the stage for what's to come in the Multiverse Saga.

The expectation is that a new Kang Variant, Victor Timely, will take centre stage this Thursday so we should at least get to learn more about what it means for countless Variants of Kang to be unleashed across every reality. However, there was a time when season 2 featured the Multiversal War itself.  

"We were with Tom on the backlot kicking around how to continue the story for season two," executive producer Kevin Wright tells Den of Geek. "In one version, we go full-on multiversal war, but even as we were saying that, it felt completely wrong, jumping to something we haven’t earned yet."

We're guessing that will be saved for Avengers: The Kang Dynasty, but Wright would go on to say that, "When we developed Loki, we were trying to be as insular as possible. We, Mike [Waldron] and Kate [Herron], and everyone involved in season one wanted to build our own little corner of the MCU. If it was cool and exciting, we figured the rest of the MCU would come to us."

It's starting to look like that's exactly what's happening between Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania and the upcoming Deadpool 3. The latter is expected to feature the TVA, with the stage finally set for those next two Avengers movies. 

We're also expecting Loki to be a major player in The Kang Dynasty and Avengers: Secret Wars, with many fans speculating the God of Mischief will eventually play a similar role to Molecule Man in Jonathan Hickman and Esad Ribic's Secret Wars

Interestingly, there was actually a time when Loki would have been the one waiting for his two Variants in the Citadel at the End of Time. 

"In development, it was always the idea of He Who Remains, who is not Kang in the comics, but for us, it was always going to be a version of him," Wright says. "We just thought [He Who Remains] would be a great title for the last man standing in the multiversal war."

"In the writers’ room, all ideas are on the table, and there were conversations about what if Loki was He Who Remains. Those conversations didn’t get very far; I don’t think it even got to Tom [Hiddleston] because while there is something fun about that, and there are compelling aspects to it, it makes the universe feel small. So, it was always going to be He Who Remains, always a version of Kang."

The third episode of Loki premieres on Disney+ this Thursday. 

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Vigor
Vigor - 10/16/2023, 9:26 AM
Interesting insights here for sure.
Spike101
Spike101 - 10/16/2023, 9:39 AM
What drugs are these writers/creative people on?
URCOMMENTSUCKS
URCOMMENTSUCKS - 10/16/2023, 9:44 AM
''it felt completely wrong, jumping to something we haven’t earned yet''

He really is stupid, after all, and completely lacking in self-awareness.

Feige, doing things without earning them has been MCU's motto since... Well, a long time.

Likewise, on the subject of Loki, you never earned his turn for ''good''. You completely glassed over his supposed character growth and went straight for him becoming a silly anti-hero in Ragnajoke. Same with Thor suddenly becoming funny. There is no in-between where that change is given context - it just happens.

Feige, seriously, give up this franchise to someone else; you're done for.
Origame
Origame - 10/16/2023, 9:53 AM
@URCOMMENTSUCKS - exactly. This version of loki was pulling out a dudes eye just the other day (from his perspective).

If anything, showing him the redemption arc of his main timeline self in a PowerPoint presentation should've made him view that path as a mistake he "needs to correct", i.e. stay evil.
EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 10/16/2023, 10:03 AM
@Origame - Wouldn't the criticism then have been no growth? No arc? The character's the exact same as they were when they began?
OmegaBlack13
OmegaBlack13 - 10/16/2023, 10:12 AM
@EskimoJ - Exactly. Also, in the last episode he kinda addressed that when he pointed out Avengers 2012 for what it was from his perspective: a tantrum.
Origame
Origame - 10/16/2023, 10:15 AM
@EskimoJ - ...you think there's no arc if he starts out bad in his own story?

What we got he had no arc. He just watches a video and now he's good.

You can easily write it that he's motivated to survive and maybe get the upper hand on the tva, but learns to be good after spending time with mobius and sylvie over time.
OmegaBlack13
OmegaBlack13 - 10/16/2023, 10:09 AM
Loki standing in for Molecule Man sounds like it could be interesting, but man there’s no way that movie can have the impact of the comic version. Really makes me wish they’d committed to putting the time in and doing a real adaptation.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 10/16/2023, 10:15 AM
@OmegaBlack13 - it'll be a different story, with the same title. That's their MO nowadays
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/16/2023, 11:22 AM
Bring back evil Loki.

bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 10/16/2023, 11:27 AM
Do hope we get to see, or atleast hear, what that Multiversal War was about. He Who Remains and Kang the Conqueror (in Quantumania) gave me two very different versions. And not just different perspectives, but like it where two whole different events
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