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AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 7/15/2022, 1:11 PM
Ewwww a mutant🤡




ot: anybody see the video of Terrance Howard trying to scam the people of Uganda?







The guy is a grifter and psychopath
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 7/15/2022, 1:15 PM
@AmazingFILMporg - Glad the foresight was seen to boot him out and replace him with Cheadle.
TomK725
TomK725 - 7/15/2022, 1:15 PM
I wonder what implications this has for "damage control" .....are they what we've been meant to believe or is there another twist coming.
thewanderer
thewanderer - 7/15/2022, 1:26 PM
@TomK725 - I can see them playing a big part going forward, particularly in Young Avengers.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 7/15/2022, 1:42 PM
@TomK725 - I mentioned this before but I think The Department of Damage Control is the American Branch of the Sokovia Accords.
thewanderer
thewanderer - 7/15/2022, 1:27 PM
There's no need for her to be part of the X-Men. It's not like every mutant hero is.
inkniron
inkniron - 7/15/2022, 1:34 PM
@thewanderer - Exactly. It's not like there haven't been mutants on the Avengers as well.
Origame
Origame - 7/15/2022, 3:48 PM
@thewanderer - not to mention she was only an inhuman in the comic in so far as that's where her powers came from. Other than explaining powers, she isn't really an inhuman, just another teen superhero.

Really this reveal gives us nothing but the idea mutants are coming, which we knew for a while now.
thewanderer
thewanderer - 7/15/2022, 3:51 PM
@Origame - yes, but it means they are finally here after we've been waiting for so long and thought we may have to wait a little longer.

It's an exciting time.
inkniron
inkniron - 7/15/2022, 1:33 PM
Bruno has discovered a "mutation" in Kamala's DNA, but the question is, was it already there, or did something activate it? If it's the latter (meaning that Noor bangle), the theory that the Scarlet Witch is a mutant whose powers were "switched on" by the Mind Stone may very well have been confirmed.

Your 2 part question makes no sense. I'll make this one simple for you. If they're going to call her a mutant, it was already there AND it has to be activated to manifest powers. Mutants are born with the X-gene and the mutation if/when it is activated comes from high stress or trauma.

Now, if your asking did the Noor Bangle itself cause her DNA to be mutated, then she is not a mutant but a mutate. I doubt they try to make that the case though if Feige love the X-Men like he says. There have been many stories thoughout the years that dealt with made vs born that way.

As for Wanda, I'm pretty sure that the high stress of being experimented on, not just the mind stone, was enough to activate her mutation.
thewanderer
thewanderer - 7/15/2022, 1:38 PM
@inkniron - this is what I see happening. You're born with the X-Gene, and then radiation from things like the snap, the bangle, the Mind Stone, etc unlock that gene.


Someone else brought it up somewhere but I'd kind of like to see Tiamut, the Celestial sticking out of the Indian Ocean, become a "tourist attraction" that also is giving off radiation that is activating the Mutant X-Gene of visitors.
inkniron
inkniron - 7/15/2022, 1:43 PM
@thewanderer - That would still qualify as trauma. JH actually made a good point, no one is going to want to see Prof X as a kid, so mutants will have to have been around a while.

I guess if radiation triggers it, older ones could have started appearing with the prevalence of microwave ovens and X-Ray.
thewanderer
thewanderer - 7/15/2022, 1:55 PM
@inkniron - unless you make it radiation "not of Earth".
inkniron
inkniron - 7/15/2022, 2:01 PM
@thewanderer - Meh, we got all that technology from downed alien spacecrafts anyway.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/15/2022, 2:07 PM
@inkniron - Not necessarily. Yes, sometimes the X-Gene is triggered due to high tension situations or other factors, but people with X-Genes also just have them manifest eventually without being triggered.

Nothing caused Cyclops' optic blasts to turn on one day. They just did. Nothing made Beast's feet grow big one day, or Angel's wings to sprout out of no where, they were just born with them.

But then you have kids like Rogue who's situation of having her first kiss was enough to activate her X-Gene. Or Jean Grey who's sister's death activated her powers. Or Hope, who was just born with her powers.

It's also interesting that I don't think we've ever seen a mutant who's powers manifested when they were a full grown adult. It always happens before they reach adulthood.

So all this really proves at this point, is that X-Genes exist in people. We still don't know if they NEED to be triggered, or if they can also just manifest on their own.
thewanderer
thewanderer - 7/15/2022, 2:08 PM
@inkniron - my point being, things like "microwave oven radiation" wouldn't work.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/15/2022, 2:14 PM
@inkniron - I'm thinking it's like this. Some people are born with X-Genes. But evolution hasn't advanced far enough for everyone with am X-Gene to ever manifest. This is why we can have Xavier, Magneto, or Wolverine with their powers. They are older, and they manifested. Whether it was triggered, or their powers manifested on their own.

But now, decades later, evolution has advanced some more, so now more people with X-Genes are starting to gain their powers as well. Add that on something like the Blip, or other outside forces kickstarting some people's X-Gene, and now we start seeing the real birth of mutantkind.
inkniron
inkniron - 7/15/2022, 2:30 PM
@CorndogBurglar - There are the few like Beast born that way. Was pretty sure they still attribute it to stress though.

Cyclops and Angel were just puberty manifestations. I thought puberty was stress enough and how most were triggered. Others require that extra push. Hell, Scott's extra push could have been growing up in an orphanage.

Either way, my point stands on mutate vs mutant. The bangle might have triggered it, but it had to be there if they want her to be a mutant.
inkniron
inkniron - 7/15/2022, 2:37 PM
@CorndogBurglar - Oh, it definitely is a process. They attributed the uptick in mutants to solar radiation in later books, IIRC. I always figured they could use the blip as the trauma that unlocked a bunch, but there still had to be the lead up to it. They are definitely among the people.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/15/2022, 3:30 PM
@inkniron - Thats a better way of saying it. Puberty made them manifest in some people. It's almost like if nothing too crazy happens to you, then puberty will eventually do it.

But yeah I totally agree with mutant vs mutate. But because Bruno called it a mutation, and then the X-Men music played, I think its very clear that she's a mutant, and not a mutate.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/15/2022, 3:37 PM
@inkniron - Yes, and I think that's the important piece. Mutants have been around the whole time in the MCU. But not in large numbers. It's the blip or something else that is going to be the driver for more of them springing up now.
tRuckRogers46A
tRuckRogers46A - 7/15/2022, 4:52 PM
@inkniron - but in the Wandavision flashback ep they showed she had powers before the mindstone/sceptre. When the stark bomb landed and didn't go off.
inkniron
inkniron - 7/16/2022, 1:13 AM
@tRuckRogers46A - Ok, then the trauma of living in a war torn country or just the stress of puberty unlocked her powers.
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