MS. MARVEL Reveals The Truth About About Kamala's Ancestors And A Possible Inhumans Tease - SPOILERS

MS. MARVEL Reveals The Truth About About Kamala's Ancestors And A Possible Inhumans Tease - SPOILERS

Today's episode of Ms. Marvel featured more major revelations, including the truth about Kamala Khan's family and a moment that many fans believe could be teasing a future appearance from the Inhumans.

By JoshWilding - Jul 06, 2022 09:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Ms. Marvel

Today's episode of Ms. Marvel finally shed some light on Kamala Khan's family history, revealing that her great-grandmother, Aisha, left her fellow ClanDestines after falling in love with a human man called Hasan.

We follow them, and their child Sana (Kamala's grandmother), right up until the Partition in India, and after the villainous Najma tracks Aisha down and demands the bangle, they flee towards one of the many trains heading to Pakistan. Unfortunately, Najma follows them to the station and mortally wounds Aisha after she's separated from her husband and child. 

Sana, terrified, also becomes lost in the crowd and it's at this point that Kamala finds her. Aisha used the bangle to bring her descendant into the past, and the stars Sana believes led her back to her father are actually the energy constructs created by the teenager. 

We're not sure how this all factors into the MCU's time-travel rules, but it appears to be something of a closed-loop rather than a branching timeline. Regardless, in the present day, Kamala returns only to find that the blow delivered to the bangle by Najma has opened the "Veil" and, presumably, the door to the Noor Dimension. However, when one of the ClanDestine touches it, she's covered in a black rock-like substance before disintegrating into dust. 

Many fans believe this is a nod to the process of Terrigenesis, especially as what happens to those who aren't "Inhuman" was portrayed in a similar fashion in Agents of S.H.I.L.E.D. after they were exposed to those mists. Regardless, Najma sees the error of her ways and sacrifices herself to close the doorway, somehow transferring powers to her son, Kamran, in the process.

He seeks out Bruno's help, but a Department of Damage Control drone tracks Kamran down, and both teens are caught in an explosion thanks to a misfire (a result of Kamran inadvertently letting off an energy blast). 

We're guessing this is leading to a clash between Ms. Marvel and Kamran as the character heads down a villainous route in the comics. Kamala's mom also learns about her daughter's newfound abilities in this episode, and seems to approve. In fact, we're guessing she creates Ms. Marvel's costume as the logo is revealed for the first time when Muneeba finds Kamala's necklace damaged and bent into that familiar lightning bolt shape. 

Will we finally get some sort of Inhuman reveal in the Ms. Marvel finale? That remains to be seen, but it feels like Marvel Studios might be at least laying the groundwork for those characters to one day appear...
 

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micvalpro
micvalpro - 7/6/2022, 10:04 AM
I really like this show but these last 2 episodes fell off the quality it started with. Its weird to see. its like they had a clear vision in the beginning and then just didnt know what to do with the middle/end.
marvel72
marvel72 - 7/6/2022, 10:29 AM
@micvalpro - That's Disney Plus for you.
The1st
The1st - 7/6/2022, 11:00 AM
@micvalpro - I would prefer something more like Stranger Things 4 was in terms of episodes. Have those normal episodes and then when you get to the finale and it's essentially a film.
micvalpro
micvalpro - 7/6/2022, 11:06 AM
@marvel72 - werd
JDL
JDL - 7/6/2022, 11:27 AM
@micvalpro - I pretty much disagree. #4 was outstanding and #5 pretty darn good as well. Maybe you would just prefer the Arrowverse but if so you better hurry, it's on the way out.
JDL
JDL - 7/6/2022, 6:58 PM
@KingUniverse95 - Your sentence needs re-writing. As it stands whatever your point is, it is rather muddy.
micvalpro
micvalpro - 7/7/2022, 8:34 AM
@JDL - uhh no. I don’t care for the arrowverse. I really like this show but those were weak for me. Get over it.
JDL
JDL - 7/7/2022, 5:17 PM
@micvalpro - Congratulations ! I'm over it ! I just find it odd that when I thought it picked up a bit you thought the opposite.
micvalpro
micvalpro - 7/7/2022, 6:14 PM
@JDL - Ill watch the last one again. The one before last was bad though. The writing and direction were really amateur. Hoping the finale is as good as the first episode.
JDL
JDL - 7/7/2022, 7:38 PM
@micvalpro - I thought the last one was pretty good, still imo it dragged a bit for a few minutes but I thought the one before that was really solid. Oh well, different strokes I guess.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 7/6/2022, 10:12 AM
About to watch now. I'm disappearing today. Love and Thunder spoilers everywhere. ✌🏾
Origame
Origame - 7/6/2022, 10:12 AM
So this seems to be a somewhat explanation for how Steve traveling to the past didn't seem to create a branched timeline. So I guess the idea is it's possible to travel back in time and it becomes a closed loop (also meaning Steve is the mysterious husband Peggy was talking about like what the writers planned).

And what factors decide whether a trip to the past becomes a closed loop or a branching timeline are...
Pssst
Pssst - 7/6/2022, 10:21 AM
@Origame - I don't think there's a point in looking too closely into how time travel works in the MCU anyways, or how the multiverse works for that matter, as the rules seem to be different in each movie/series. Wished they were more consistent with these things, but I think they just use time travel and different timelines to service each particular story and expect the audience to not think too much about it.
Origame
Origame - 7/6/2022, 10:45 AM
@Pssst - id agree, but both endgame and loki heavily rely on their time travel rules for their stories. In endgame, the function of how time travel works is the literal reason they are going with the plan they are as opposed to more logical plans like warning their past selves or killing Thanos earlier. And the tva in loki exists as it does because of how the time travel works, and they even establish more rules such as apocalypses being safe spaces from tva detection.

But on top of that, the mcu wasn't a time travel franchise until endgame. It didn't need to dive into the convoluted world of time travel in the first place.
Pssst
Pssst - 7/6/2022, 10:53 AM
@Origame - You are right with Endgame, it's still one of my MCU favorites but they make time travel and its rules central to the story and then they mess it up at the end with old Captain America. It was cool and a satisfying ending for the character, but it contradicts everything about time travel as they had explained it. In Loki I think they were more consistent, but then you get to NWH and MoM and it has nothing to do with the multiverse they had explained in Loki. I was expecting for them to make sense of it all eventually, but I don't think they will.
Fares
Fares - 7/6/2022, 11:00 AM
@Pssst - curious to know what you're referring to about NWH and MoM not following what Loki established, if you may elaborate further.
Origame
Origame - 7/6/2022, 11:03 AM
@Pssst - I mean, they blatantly break the apocalypse rule they set up to get them off that exploding planet. I'd say that's worse than endgame since the main plot of endgame was already over at least.
Pssst
Pssst - 7/6/2022, 11:37 AM
@Fares - Damn it, I wrote a long three paragraph answer and when I hit post there was an error and it got lost...

The short version is, as I understood from Loki, there was only one timeline and the TVA deleted any timeline branching from it. When He Who Remains dies, we see many timelines branching from the sacred timeline, so I assumed the MCU were Loki comes from is the starting point for all universes. They should all have the same laws of physics and have small differences that become bigger over time.

However, in MoM they go through animated and painted realities and things like that, which doesn't seem to fit the stuff in Loki. In NWH we have two older Peter Parkers who look completely different from the MCU one but have a lot in common otherwise. And in the 838 universe we get both: characters like Strange and Wanda and Mordo who are the same as the 636 universe but then we have the Fox Charles Xavier who will be different than the one we eventually get in the MCU. If things were already different when Xavier was born, how come some of the younger heroes are the same? With a different Xavier around the past would've been changed as Magneto probably knows him before having Wanda, and just the fact that he conceived Wanda in a different moment of in different circumstances should make her be a different version. If Strange and Wanda look the same it's because the divergence between both universes happened after they were born, or at least that's how it seems it should be to me according to how it works in Loki.

Well, that wasn't the short version in the end lol. I think time travel and the multiverse works however the writers want it to work in each project. Maybe it will be better explained in Loki season 2, but seeing how they mess up with time travel each time, I'm not hopeful.
Pssst
Pssst - 7/6/2022, 11:39 AM
@Origame - Yeah I take it back, I forgot about that part... They did break their own rules in Loki with that and just carried on.
Moriakum
Moriakum - 7/6/2022, 12:04 PM
@Origame - And what factors decide whether a trip to the past becomes a closed loop or a branching timeline are...the past itself. I think it's simple. If you change your past, then a new branch is created. For example, Stark goes back in time and kills Hitler. That never happened in his past, so a new branch is created.
If you don't change anything in your past, as happened in Ms Marvel where her past was not altered, her grandmother still found her father because of the stars as she was meant to, then that's a closed loop.
Origame
Origame - 7/6/2022, 12:10 PM
@Moriakum - ...then where did the original self that caused the event to play out come from?
Pssst
Pssst - 7/6/2022, 12:36 PM
@Moriakum - I think it's either one or the other. One option is that time is always the same and you can't change it, so if there is time travel it will always be in a closed loop. Everything is predestined and if you travel back in time it doesn't change anything because it already happened. The other option is that time is not fixed and if you can travel back you will change it and create new timelines each time. Mixing one concept and the other doesn't make sense, they are opposing theories.
Atticus
Atticus - 7/6/2022, 12:55 PM
@Pssst - They're definitely been inconsistent with it. I keep trying to work out retcons in my head to make it work.

For the time travel in Ms Marvel being a loop compared to branching in Endgame, I'm just telling myself time travel works differently based on if you use magic or science. The scientific approach discovered in Endgame leads to branches (someone even noted that the branch approach is essentially just banners theory on time travel). Ms Marvel's time travel is based on Noor magic which allows for a constant loop. I like the idea the dimensions are different to alternate universes and are where most 'magic' within MCU comes from, so follow different laws as don't relate to science in the same way.

For Loki's pruning vs the multiverse in NWH and MoM, I'm going with a Rick & Morty finale approach. The TVC couldn't eradicate the multiverse but through pruning they could keep themselves untangled from the rest of the multiverse (particularly those with alternate Kangs). The endgame branch was deemed acceptable as it stayed close enough to the prime timeline (it was also pruned after the Avengers left , as per opening of Loki). Following the end of Loki has allowed the prime MCU timeline to become entangled with the multiverse again, allowing NWH and MoM to happen.

The branching/multiverse approach is also how I excuse AoS falling out of the MCU prime timeline. Up until they travelled to the future they were part of the prime MCU. When they returned to the present day, they return to a different MCU timeline.

Having said all that I have no good idea or excuse how a branch was created between Loki and Sylvie during the apocalypse in Ep4. Maybe a self-fufilling prophecy. Because the TVC were looking for them, this created a branch as gave them the possibility of leaving the planet? I'm clutching a straws though.
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