VENOM Director Offers A Confusing Explanation About Why Carnage Wasn't Chosen As The Movie's Lead Villain

VENOM Director Offers A Confusing Explanation About Why Carnage Wasn't Chosen As The Movie's Lead Villain

We've known for months now that Carnage wouldn't be a factor in Venom and now director Ruben Fleischer has offered a pretty bizarre explanation for why he decided not to give Cletus Kasidy the spotlight.

By JoshWilding - Oct 06, 2018 03:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Venom
Source: CBR
When Venom was announced, fans immediately started salivating over the prospect of seeing Venom do battle with Carnage. Pitting the two fan-favourite symbiotes against each other was a no-brainer and no matter how good or bad the movie ended up being, it would have been a genuine treat to see them come to blows. So, it makes perfect sense that Eddie Brock ended up facing Riot instead, right? 

According to director Ruben Fleischer, yes. In a new interview, the filmmaker bizarrely admits to knowing that fans wanted to see Carnage here and then says that was the reason he wasn't included!


"I think, you know, there’s a certain symbiote spawn that I think fans are most excited to see. So that one was off the table," Fleischer said. "Hopefully at some point in the future they will. Um, so we wanted to save kind of the most anticipated one for the future. And not just that, but because we really wanted this movie to be about Venom." Honestly, that really doesn't make much sense.

Carlton Drake and Riot probably have more screentime in Venom than the titular character, and Fleischer than went on to say that one of the main reasons he was chosen was because...he looks cool.

"And so, it was just honestly kind of like, who’s the coolest looking spawn who isn’t that one? The most badass, you know? That’s where Riot came from. He’s the biggest of the Life Foundation symbiotes, he’s got that
gun metal grey. I don’t want to say it was purely an aesthetic decision, but the aesthetics definitely played a big part." What are your thoughts on these strange remarks?
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rebellion
rebellion - 10/6/2018, 4:03 AM
Dont care if its good or not, sony wont get my money for this. Arad screwed me over too many times before. First cbm im skipping since fant4stic.
IronMandarin
IronMandarin - 10/6/2018, 4:12 AM
Well then you blew it Ruben.

This movie was the one opportunity to at least showcase a live action Venom Vs Carnage fight. This movie is going to have to now absolutely dominate in China in order to get a sequel

Instead you picked Riot, the Symbiote which nobody cares about and has probably appeared in less than 10 comics. Riot wasn't even the most popular of the five symbiotes from Lethal Protector. That was Scream.
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 10/6/2018, 4:17 AM
@IronMandarin - Didn't you hear the part where he said "gun-metal"?!
Vigor
Vigor - 10/6/2018, 4:37 AM
@IronMandarin - oddly I don't care about a venom vs. Carnage fight. I know exactly how it'll go. What intrigues me would be a venom, spiderman, carnage three way fight. With the former two obviously needing to set aside their differences to stop carnage
IronMandarin
IronMandarin - 10/6/2018, 4:48 AM
@Spock0Clock -Oh well then I apologise.

I wasn't aware that we had a cinematic universe where the villain is chosen based on the directors favorite color.
Solarkalel85
Solarkalel85 - 10/6/2018, 4:51 AM
@Vigor - thats what i wanted to see.basically what happened in the 90s cartoon but before that a spiderman film that introduced venom.this should have been the next spidey trilogy storyline.im so annoyed by this.
Vigor
Vigor - 10/6/2018, 5:28 AM
@Solarkalel85 - all they (fox and Sony) needed to do was copy the 90s cartoons and they would have had runaway hits for both xmen and spiderman
Solarkalel85
Solarkalel85 - 10/6/2018, 6:37 AM
@Vigor - exactly
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 10/6/2018, 4:17 AM
It takes a lot of guts to say "who is the coolest looking symbiote" and then insist it's "the gray one".

Seriously, Agony, Lasher, Scream, and Toxin are all a lot more interesting visually, and they could have even ripped off the design from Anti-Venom, because at the very least it would be engaging.
Kumkani
Kumkani - 10/6/2018, 4:19 AM
@Spock0Clock - A weird choice especially to have a black alien goo guy to fight a dark grey alien goo buy in a dark place.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 10/6/2018, 4:18 AM
LMAO! You can't make this stuff up.

Kumkani
Kumkani - 10/6/2018, 4:20 AM
This reminds me of Green Lantern and that Sinestro thing lol
Origame
Origame - 10/6/2018, 5:14 AM
@BlindWedjat - whats wrong with wanting to save a villain for a sequel? This just sounds like not wanting to blow all the story ideas on one movie.
ArthurFleck
ArthurFleck - 10/6/2018, 5:50 AM
@BlindWedjat - I'm getting Deja Vu again...

ArthurFleck
ArthurFleck - 10/6/2018, 6:16 AM
@Origame - it's symptomatic the overall larger problem plaguing Hollywood these days with franchise baiting the audience with fast tracking schlock, feverishly executing half baked films with little to no creative discipline. The one thing we the viewers love time and time again is when film makers show care, passion and most importantly respect for the material. They decided that putting their best foot forward in order to hook the general audience and establish a winning fan base is secondary to creating films which are essentially 2 hour teasers for the next movie. In stead of planting seeds, nurturing them and then reaping the rewards of their patience and hard work, they rather up root plants from other gardens, haphazardly planting them in barren soil they bought on the cheap, then wonder why the fruit they bare is sour and won't sell at the market. In the mad dash to the finish line they never took into account that taking short cuts would disqualify them from the race, regardless of how neat their running shoes look.
PsychoticSpaceRaccoon
PsychoticSpaceRaccoon - 10/6/2018, 4:21 AM
Another Wilding article, another sentence about whether or not comments "make sense." Things either make sense or they don't make sense. But Wilding will also tell you one way or another.

It's really, really weird "writing" quirk.

Also, Venom sucks.
Vigor
Vigor - 10/6/2018, 4:36 AM
@PsychoticSpaceRaccoon - what you don't realize is that Josh is a robot, and the make sense thing is just a recurring bug in his system.
DEVWoulf
DEVWoulf - 10/6/2018, 4:24 AM
They lost me when they said there was no MCU connection. I've loved Venom since childhood, but without Spidey?

Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 10/6/2018, 4:25 AM
So i saw the movie yesterday and...honestly? It's not nearly as bad as i thought it would be.
I kinda managed to take some pleasure out of it, there are lots of "comedic moments" that probably weren't meant to make the audience laugh and yet... :P

People saying that this movie is just as bad as Catwoman or F4ntastic obviously don't realize just how f*cking bad those movies were.

I hate to bring RT into anything, but it really describes this movie.
It deserves that rotten score from the critics, but also that high score from the audience.
Not a good movie, but it could've been worse.
So the way i see it, if they want to make a Venom 2, where he fights Carnage, go ahead, but after that? Just STAHP and...i dunno, sign another deal with MS and make him fight Spidey, ya can't build a franchise with this character, certainly not in this way.
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