VENOM: THE LAST DANCE Director Kelly Marcel Says Knull Is NOT A "One And Done" Villain: "God Is Coming"

VENOM: THE LAST DANCE Director Kelly Marcel Says Knull Is NOT A "One And Done" Villain: "God Is Coming"

Venom: The Last Dance director Kelly Marcel has broken her silence on Knull's role in the upcoming threequel, confirming this is meant as the villain's introduction. She also weighs in on Rhys Ifans' role.

By JoshWilding - Oct 14, 2024 12:10 PM EST
Filed Under: Venom
Source: IGN

Interest in Venom: The Last Dance has greatly increased since we learned of plans for Knull, God of the Symbiotes, to appear in the threequel. With this movie billed as the "epic conclusion" to the trilogy, many fans have wondered why the villain is being introduced now, particularly as the previous instalments did very little to tease his existence.

Talking to IGN, writer and director Kelly Marcel dropped several teases, including the fact Patrick Mulligan is returning with a Symbiote and the "different agendas" Chiwetel Ejiofor and Juno Temple's characters have. 

After Carnage, the filmmaker says they wanted to "step up our game with the threat in this movie so we brought out the big guns to bring a much bigger challenge, not only to Eddie and Venom but to our world." That challenge is the aforementioned Knull, with this movie serving as "just the beginning" for him. 

"Trust me, we know full well how important Knull is to the fans, so just as we laid a foundation for Venom, we hope we are doing the same for Knull," Marcel teases. "The King in Black is way too powerful for 'one and done.' This film introduces Knull, but it just touches the beginnings of his story."

"Marvel's greatest film villains are developed over time. Here, Knull is the threat lurking behind the danger that tests the absolute limits of Eddie and Venom's partnership - but it’s their relationship that remains the heart of this story," she continues. "From the beginning, Tom and I always envisioned that this particular Eddie/Venom story would be told in three parts and the story arc would climax with the third film for reasons the movie will reveal."

If this is truly the end for Tom Hardy as Venom, then why add Knull to the mix now? "As the fans know there are many, many more symbiote stories - the universe is wide and rich, and one movie could never do justice to Knull," Marcel states. "Beyond this trilogy, there are more stories to explore - God is coming."

The question is, is he coming to Spider-Man 4? That's the rumour, though the Venom: The Last Dance director was giving nothing away in that respect, though much of what's been rumoured is seemingly confirmed here. 

She did, however, confirm that Rhys Ifans isn't playing a Variant of Dr. Curt Connors in the movie. 

"It’s not uncommon for actors to be cast as different Marvel characters across various films and this is no different," Marcel explains. "The best actors for the roles were cast and Rhys is no exception, he plays a new and different character in a really fun and important role and I am so excited for people’s reaction to his wonderful performance."

A couple of new stills from Venom: The Last Dance have also been revealed which you can see below.

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DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 10/14/2024, 12:17 PM
In before MCU's 4th Spidey fails due to Sony's clinging (I'm sorry, "sharing").
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/14/2024, 12:18 PM
@DrReedRichards - I will find it absolute hilarious if after all these rumors , Spidey 4 has nothing to do with that lol

I’m not being delusional !!.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 10/14/2024, 12:20 PM
@TheVisionary25 -

I genuinely hope that you're right, and that in hindsight we all end up having a good laught about it.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 10/14/2024, 12:25 PM
@DrReedRichards - Now see... this is the precise terminology that fits the situation. Or should I say -- since clingy fits so well -- situationship.

Sony is like the stage-5er that borrowed your grey hoodie and "forgot" to give it back at the end of the night just so you're forced to continue interacting with them.

It's time Feige gets his grey hoodie back once and for all.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 10/14/2024, 12:28 PM
@Tonic24k -

Lest we forget that Sony tried the old "I'm just gonna go to make a call real quick" while actually trying to make a run for it, back in 2019.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 10/14/2024, 12:29 PM
@TheVisionary25 - You're not delusional one bit. In fact, to continue the situationship analogy here, Sony toggled their relationship status to "Married to Marvel Studios" while Marvel Studios' still says "single".

An apt metaphor for how Sony does silly things in their post-credit scenes that Marvel Studios never acknowledges.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/14/2024, 12:41 PM
@Tonic24k - I get them thinking it could dilute the brand but I’m moreso annoyed by them holding the characters hostage rather then sharing them with Marvel aswell

If they wanted to do this then give the villains to Marvel and do stuff like Spider Noir and Spider Gwen for your own.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 10/14/2024, 1:34 PM
@TheVisionary25 - For sure! That's also what I'm getting at. Like Knull being such an incredible villain that Feige can't even touch. Or even a classic telling of a Peter and Mary Jane story.

But also, let's look at the other end of the spectrum == Sony's animated Marvel endeavors. Like, is it not an absolutely obvious decision to allocate more of your studio's resources to what's working for you and liquidate what isn't?

If I were Iger, I would work out a deal that gave Sony MORE IPs to work with in their own shared animated universe in exchange for all live action cinematic rights back. I would also build in a performance stipulation in the contract so they couldn't just make garbage juice for films without consequence.

I know it's more complicated than that. But at some point there has to be some truth in the audiences perception. Surely there's no hidden strategy in making terrible CBMs repeatedly. Even if it's JUST to maintain IP licensing... eventually you lose more money than it's worth.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 10/14/2024, 1:41 PM
@DrReedRichards - Oh you mean right before they worked out the deal to let Marvel Studios make NWH? The ~$2B film that Sony could never muster themselves. Hell, even their greatest CBM of all time didn't clear $1B.

So tired of these wannabes. Lol
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/14/2024, 1:43 PM
@Tonic24k - I agree about putting more money into the animated side since that’s been the better revived one.

However contrary to us , these Venom films have done well so far too and enough to justify making more SUMC projects so we’ll see.
ThorArms
ThorArms - 10/14/2024, 12:18 PM
Sounds more and more like we're getting Knull in the next SM film

This just pisses me off
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 10/14/2024, 12:19 PM
This is absolutely not a good thing...
TheNewYorker
TheNewYorker - 10/14/2024, 12:20 PM
This shit needs to be done DONE!
TehJoker
TehJoker - 10/14/2024, 12:20 PM
@TheNewYorker - Why? It makes them money, and she's right knull isnt one and done.
TheNewYorker
TheNewYorker - 10/14/2024, 1:12 PM
@TehJoker - oh yeah, it makes money. Just kinda crappy to see something that could be extremely epic end up being.. a bit lame
TehJoker
TehJoker - 10/14/2024, 1:13 PM
@TheNewYorker - Eh fair enough.
TwoByFour
TwoByFour - 10/14/2024, 1:52 PM
@TehJoker - What greedy execs fail to remember is that earned revenue is a BYPRODUCT of something great. Not the actual goal itself. When you chase the $$$ directly, the product tends to be devoid of any heart and soul -- the thing that makes something last with the fans and audiences to come. Which in return, makes exponentially more money than box office flops like Morbius and Madame Web. Hell, even Venom is underperforming for how popular and appealing that character is.

But at least we have Kraven the animal activist... Lol
TwoByFour
TwoByFour - 10/14/2024, 1:54 PM
@TheNewYorker - I came here to say nearly the same thing! Was going to say, "should be NONE AND DONE!"

But yeah, thanks Sony, we hate it.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 10/14/2024, 12:27 PM
Spiderman and MCU Fans:

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TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/14/2024, 12:39 PM
I’m someone who hasn’t been a fan of this take on Venom & Eddie thus far so hopefully the setup for Knull is just restricted to the SUMC and doesn’t spill over into MCU Spidey who should just be left to their own devices…

I do agree with her sentiment that that the best Marvel villains have been done over time since it can be challenging to develop them alongside the other characters in one film which is not just true for genre but stories aswell.

I’m not as Anti-Sony as others seem to be on here but I also feel their “comic book” movies haven’t grabbed me as others have since I haven’t liked the Venom films thus far and didn’t even see Morbius or Madame Web.

Perhaps that might change in the future since this does sometimes look better then the previous 2 (not dat that is saying much) and think Kraven even sounds kinda interesting…

Plus they have Spider Noir coming out which is their first tv show which seems the most appealing to me by far though I’m a sucker for period noir stories so we’ll see!!.
cubrn
cubrn - 10/14/2024, 12:50 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Hopefully they just bring back Andrew Garfield and do their own thing with Knull and leave the MCU out of it.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/14/2024, 12:52 PM
@cubrn - I don’t even want poor Garfield associated with this as of now unless it gets better

I wasn’t a big fan of Garfield’s movies (moreso the 1st then 2) but they were still better then these imo.
ThePenguin
ThePenguin - 10/14/2024, 12:52 PM
@cubrn - I dont really want andrew with knull either to be honest. He doesent fit venoms tone
Iports
Iports - 10/14/2024, 12:54 PM
I bloody garuntee you! He won’t show up again

Introduction made by Sony and we will forever be waiting years to hear where he’s gonna show up .

I just cannot see Kevin throwing him in spiderman 4 !

It’s annoys me when they do this with characters…

Scorpion is another one great spiderman villain teased years ago .. never shown up since
BraxtonHicks
BraxtonHicks - 10/14/2024, 1:02 PM
Sounds like a lot are up to bat at Marvel:

Knull
Galactus
Dr. Doom
Kingpin
Mephisto...
MisterBones
MisterBones - 10/14/2024, 1:21 PM
Keeping lying to yourself

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