VENOM: THE LAST DANCE Rumor Reveals Whether The Franchise Will Finally Deliver An R-Rated Chapter

VENOM: THE LAST DANCE Rumor Reveals Whether The Franchise Will Finally Deliver An R-Rated Chapter

With tickets set to go on sale for Venom: The Last Dance imminently, a new rumour claims to reveal whether the upcoming Sony Pictures threequel will boast an R-Rating or remain PG-13. Read on for details!

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By JoshWilding - Sep 21, 2024 09:09 AM EST
Filed Under: Venom

While Sony Pictures has made a few missteps with the Venom franchise since its launch in 2018, one of the biggest disappointments for fans has been the fact the anti-hero's story has played out in a PG-13 world.

Yes, the Lethal Protector has eaten brains but without the addition of blood. That wasn't a major issue in Venom, but when Venom: Let There Be Carnage rolled around, there were many complaints about Cletus Kasady being unleashed minus an R-Rating. 

Following the success of Deadpool & Wolverine and the fact Kraven the Hunter is going to be an R, there's been some chatter about Venom: The Last Dance finally heading down a darker route. 

Not so, according to reliable leaker @Cryptic4KQual. 

After revealing that tickets go on sale on October 1, the scooper noted that a source has confirmed Sony Pictures is hoping to keep the Venom threequel PG-13. Why? Money, apparently (which does make sense; Deadpool & Wolverine broke records but would have made even more money had people been able to take their kids to see it). 

Excitement for the threequel has started to build since that final trailer was released, with confirmation that Knull, God of the Symbiotes, will appear generating a great deal of discussion among fans. 

Then, there's the rumour that Venom and Spider-Man will team up in the MCU for a Multiversal adventure...true or not, the leak has gone in Sony's favour as it's greatly increased interest in what's planned for Tom Hardy's Eddie Brock in Venom: The Last Dance and beyond. 

You can rewatch the final trailer, and our interview with Venom: Let There Be Carnage director Andy Serkis, below. 

In Venom: The Last Dance, Tom Hardy returns as Venom, one of Marvel's greatest and most complex characters, for the final film in the trilogy. Eddie and Venom are on the run. Hunted by both of their worlds and with the net closing in, the duo are forced into a devastating decision that will bring the curtains down on Venom and Eddie's last dance.

The movie stars Tom Hardy, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Juno Temple, Peggy Lu, Alanna Ubach, Stephen Graham, and Rhys Ifans. Kelly Marcel directs from a screenplay she wrote, based on a story by Hardy and Marcel. The film is produced by Avi Arad, Matt Tolmach, Amy Pascal, Kelly Marcel, Tom Hardy and Hutch Parker.

Venom: The Last Dance will be released in theaters on October 25.

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HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 9/21/2024, 9:10 AM
3 movies in and your still trying to pull this same old sh1t
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 9/21/2024, 9:30 AM
@TheVisionary25 - Oft, if anything, goes the other way that an R rated franchise ends up sneaking a lower age rating.

I can't think of ANY that start out PG-13 and then went R rating even if they went darker, at least not by intent anyway as most cases where they may have gone up to R the tone stays roughly the same and reside in the grey area between ratings thus could go either way and likely were never considered family friendly before that even if the rating permitted under 15's watch with adult supervision.

For instance the Harry Potter franchise with the first in tone seeming OK for even the youngest kids with the most lax of PG ratings. UK that would literaly be just PG, as in a film that should generally not unsettle a child aged around eight, although parents and caregivers should be aware that some scenes may be unsuitable for more sensitive children. Inline with the books that aged up roughly the same rate as readers/Harry, the last feeling on the verge of being a 15 in UK ratings (No one younger than 15 may see 15-rated content in a cinema) yet every single on of them was only PG, just minor shifts if memory serves if any upto PG 13/12A when they may have started on the most lax PG.
World2002
World2002 - 9/21/2024, 1:00 PM
@Apophis71 - uh remember x-men Wolverine trilogy Logan was R-Rated success in box office other were PG13 sony still makes dumb decisions
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 9/21/2024, 1:23 PM
@World2002 - Logan was very much it's own thing seperate to all prior Wolverine films even if considered by some part of a trilogy.

Fox timelines and what is or isn't canon to what is squiffy at best, not helped by DP&W in some ways but at the time of release of Logan everyone was tending to consider it an otherverse version not directly connected to anything prior, simply using a couple of recognisable characters from them so realy don't think that counts.

That said, sure, you found one exception maybe but as the prior Wolverine films were not considered big hits at all (or good) it is a slightly differing metric as the shift to R, even if it was considered tied to them, said it isn't going to be like those ones you didn't like.

In this case the Venom movies have been a big hit, even if considered not good, and a studio will tend not to try and fix/change if it has been selling well (even if bad).
TheNightmareVirus
TheNightmareVirus - 9/21/2024, 9:11 AM
Not sure if I buy this or not. You can very much see blood spraying out of the necks of the goons Venom bites the heads off of in the international versions of the trailers. If it does go PG-13, I would expect the home media release to include an unrated cut. There's no mistaking the arterial spray in those trailers.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/21/2024, 11:01 AM
@TheNightmareVirus - don’t think I have seen those in the domestic versions , there have been no blood during those scenes
World2002
World2002 - 9/21/2024, 1:03 PM
@TheNightmareVirus - yeah if you noticed final trailer did have 4 heads bitting blood comes out compared to first trailer didn't have any of it.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 9/21/2024, 9:13 AM
The fact a rumor WILL add interest and thus ticket sales of Venom 3, along with the fact it was initialy advertised as a true final film teasing the demise of both Symbiote and host, is why I seriously doubt there is any truth to what certain 'scoopers' are saying.

It MAY be true, they certainly setup to have a symbiote in the sacred timeline with an end credit, just doubt if so it will be this specific version of Venom and/or host even if they do feature in Spider-man 4.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/21/2024, 9:17 AM
@Apophis71 - I hope it’s not true and it’s a seperate entity all together
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 9/21/2024, 9:35 AM
@TheVisionary25 - Yeh, I know some are against Variants but would prefer they used the Venom fragment and a Variant Eddie Brock even if the same actor so they can switch it up with the tone they go with (ie ditch the goofy aspect).

OR of course be completely fake news and still be the mostly preferred street level DD/Kingpin story and leave the symbiote for a later film.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/21/2024, 9:41 AM
@Apophis71 - I wouldn’t mind that (goofy Venom has its place since there’s precedent for it but it hasn’t worked for me here).

I would prefer a street level story but if we do get Symbiote , I wouldn’t mind it being Mac Gargan

You could have that symbiote attach to him , he already has a grudge against Spider Man and there’s precedent for it in the comics aswell.

Plus , I can see Michael Mando play a truly scary iteration.

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Apophis71
Apophis71 - 9/21/2024, 12:34 PM
@TheVisionary25 - That could work well, and leave a potential switch to a Variant Brock for an end credit after having Mac and Holland be hosts to Venom during the main narrative (possibly whilst Eddie is JUST an investivative reported in the background).
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/21/2024, 9:15 AM
I mean , it makes sense that it won’t be Rated R…

It not only gives them the option to appeal to a wider audience but it’s already been set that this iteration of the character is moreso in the PG-13 zone then anything else given the previous 2 films so it would be odd to just change that in this presumably final installment (I don’t think any trilogy has done that but could be wrong).

Anyway , not really looking forward to this film so far but I know there are fans of this take so I hope this ends the series well for them!!.

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World2002
World2002 - 9/21/2024, 1:08 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Logan was R-Rated while other two were PG13 if you remember that
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 9/21/2024, 1:29 PM
@World2002 - Was never marketed as a sequel to the two Wolverine films either though otherwise it would have still had Wolverine in the title name. The prior films were not exactly hits with a big BO, the first was a total flop in fact derailing plans for other Xmen origin films.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 9/21/2024, 9:15 AM
Who cares, it's Batman Day!
defenderofthefaith
defenderofthefaith - 9/21/2024, 9:17 AM
If it does go r rated I imagine it will be more a horror movie then a comic book movie.
World2002
World2002 - 9/21/2024, 1:26 PM
@defenderofthefaith - based in tom hardy said they pushed the film more than last two plus there was blood in final trailer 4 bloods comes out right after venom bites them.
Spoken
Spoken - 9/21/2024, 9:26 AM
Tom Rothman is probably having anxiety that Kraven is rated R right bout now.
World2002
World2002 - 9/21/2024, 1:24 PM
@Spoken - plus it cost 130 million 20 more million for reshoot originally it was 110
GodHercules20
GodHercules20 - 9/21/2024, 9:38 AM
Venom is a goofy villain, keep him that way. Carnage needs R rating to get him right
Biggums
Biggums - 9/23/2024, 2:49 AM
@GodHercules20 - ya. Woody Harrison's wig really embodied that whole movie.
MarvelousMarty
MarvelousMarty - 9/21/2024, 10:01 AM
It'll be "S" rated. Sh*t.
FinnishDude
FinnishDude - 9/21/2024, 10:03 AM
The previous two movies made a bank with PG-13, the fans of them have cited all the wacky gags, not "hardcore" action scenes, as their favorite aspect, Venom is popular with kids and they keep teasing that they will eventually crossover with Spider-Man.

This movie is not going to be R and you are dumb, if you seriously expected it to be.
LSHF
LSHF - 9/21/2024, 10:08 AM
Rumors can't reveal jack because they are just rumors.

Facts reveal, not rumors.
Nolanite
Nolanite - 9/21/2024, 10:37 AM
Sony doesn't have the balls to make this rated R.
They're already risking it being a flop so yeah.
Nolanite out
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 9/21/2024, 10:40 AM
These movies have sucked ass. i just want this done and over with so the MCU can get its hands on the true Venom... not this pile of crap Sony has made
TheNewYorker
TheNewYorker - 9/21/2024, 1:25 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - I agree
Fogs
Fogs - 9/21/2024, 10:44 AM
Cute of them talking about rating it R after DP&W, they think they can ride that wave too.

That is, if it's true.
BritishMonkey
BritishMonkey - 9/21/2024, 11:58 AM
"Money, apparently (which does make sense; Deadpool & Wolverine broke records but would have made even more money had people been able to take their kids to see it)."

Absolutely the [frick] not. Deadpool films are not and have never been made for kids lol
If it were made for kids too it would not have done as well.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/21/2024, 12:02 PM
@BritishMonkey - it also still doesn’t stop some parents from brining their kids to see them either.

I do think he could work either way, whether it be PG-13 or R…

They just decided to go the latter route and it’s worked wonders for them.
World2002
World2002 - 9/21/2024, 1:22 PM
@BritishMonkey - Deadpool 3 cost 200 million compared to venom 3 110 million & yet Deadpool have made over billion first R-Rated by Disney
Matchesz
Matchesz - 9/21/2024, 1:25 PM
damn, they using political tactics to get butts in seats.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 9/21/2024, 1:39 PM
Gonna bomb
JFerguson
JFerguson - 9/21/2024, 2:06 PM
I find it funny as hell that Deadpool and Wolverine was Rated R but Disney allowed them to have entertainers dress up and perform him in their amusement park.

Venom movies are just shit and Kraven even worse.
MarvelZombie616
MarvelZombie616 - 9/21/2024, 3:11 PM
I have seen both Venom and Venom: Let there be Carnage on opening day.
Same will be true for Venom: The last Dance.
That being said, both were entertaining, but not really good.

Concerning ratings:

Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring was all ages (0 years) when i first saw it on opening day in Germany.
Considering how one of the main characters was killed at the end, i considered this to be a joke.

Personally, i don't care about ratings, but some characters like the Punisher or Wolverine should always be rated r.
SummersEssex
SummersEssex - 9/21/2024, 3:17 PM
Making it R rated for the sake of being edgy is so dumb. Deadpool & Wolverine would have been better served story-wise to be PG-13. A few specific jokes (most of which weren’t THAT funny, a lot of F-bombs, and unnecessary gore was all that pushed it into the R rating. Could have still been plenty violent and funny and put some of that r rated energy into enhancing what was already a pretty great story (far better story than the first two installments). I mean, the first one on one fight in the void was cool, but it started to feel like Supes v Zod in Man of Steel and then having them go at it again in the car was just unnecessary. It was good, Reynolds and Jackman were amazing, but they still missed the mark.
ThorArms
ThorArms - 9/21/2024, 6:19 PM
This venom is too lame and tame
elcapitan
elcapitan - 9/22/2024, 12:06 AM
Josh I think you forgot that children under 17 are allowed in an R-rated film with an adult 18 or over.

"would have made even more money had people been able to take their kids to see it"
S3mtek
S3mtek - 10/22/2024, 6:16 AM
It's R-Rated I presume. In the UK it's rated 15 like all the others were, but, the BBFC content advice shows it being a lot edgier than the last two. Here's what they say:


-violence-

Alien creatures devour people and eject their bloody remains. There are shootings and stabbings resulting in brief bloody detail, and an alien being bites off the heads of four men.

-threat and horror-

People are chased, threatened with guns, held captive, and a man almost drowns after falling into a river. Sequences of horror include frightening alien creatures and occasional jump scares.

-language-

There is use of strong language ('motherf**ker', 'f**k'), and milder terms including 'dick', 'bitch', 'slut', 'shit', 'ass', 'asshole', 'piss', 'hell', 'freaking', 'God' and 'damn'.

-injury detail-

People are left with bloody wounds during action scenes.

-rude humour-

One man urinates on another's feet. There are jokes about alien anal probes, and being a 'groupie'.

-alcohol and smoking-

A drunk man makes cocktails in a bar during a comic scene.

-flashing/flickering lights-

This film contains flickering or flashing lights that may affect those with photosensitive epilepsy.

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