The Film That Was ANT-MAN

The Film That Was ANT-MAN

Marvel's Phase 3 slate is a tremendously complex and diverse set of films. But one microscopic hero seems too small to be seen with the naked eye...

Editorial Opinion
By AvisQuinn - Oct 29, 2014 04:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Ant-Man

The Film that was Ant-Man

Marvel's Phase 3 slate is a tremendously complex and diverse set of films. But one microscopic hero seems too small to be seen with the naked eye. I'm talking, of course, about Ant-Man.



Edgar Wright's Departure

Without question, this film has been the most tumultuous film Marvel has ever undertaken. The trouble began when Edgar Wright, the mastermind behind the push to get the insect hero on the big screen, departed the project. Both Wright and Marvel Studios came together to release a joint statement, claiming that the split was "amiable" and that it was for the best of the project that they part ways. But if you have been following this film, you'll know Edgar Wright was involved with Ant-Man for several years. However amiable the disassociation, you'd be hard-pressed to believe that wasn't any animosity between the two parties.



The Search

Marvel's troubles with the film did not end there. Several directors were approached to take the helm of the project after Wright's sudden departure. Names like David Wain (Wet Hot American Summer), Rawson Marshall Thurber (Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story), Adam McKay (Anchorman) and Nicholas Stoller (Forgetting Sarah Marshall) were all considered forerunners to direct the film. But one by one, each director opted to pass on shooting. It seemed like an act of desperation to meet its July 2015 release date when they hired director Peyton Reed (whose film credits include Bring It On and Yes Man) to finally take the reigns. In addition to the director change, aforementioned McKay was brought in to make "revisions" to Wright's script. Though in interviews, he claims that only slight changes were made, such as adding "action sequences" and "scenes to make it more a part of the MCU." Still, that leads us fans of the MCU to think...



Marvel's Next "Other Child"

...is Ant-Man going to be Marvel's new "other child." By that, I am referring to the film that is rarely mentioned within the MCU, the Incredible Hulk. Let's be realistic and honest for a moment. The Incredible Hulk was clearly not as successful as Iron Man. Issues of difficulty with its male lead, Edward Norton, an awkward after-credits scene which had to be retconned in the Marvel One-Shot, The Consultant, and a general disconnect from the rest of the universe (barring Bruce Banner himself) have all but diminished the Incredible Hulk's significance in the MCU. Though they seem to have cracked the code with how to properly utilize Hulk on film, another solo outing for the green goliath is nowhere in sight, minus Kevin Feige's word that the character will appear in "several films in Phase 3". I see Ant-Man having a similar issue. It was recently revealed that Ant-Man would be used as the epilogue for Phase 2. But that raises a big question: why end Phase 2 on what could be considered a low note?



The Relevance of Being Small

I have compared Ant-Man to the Incredible Hulk for a number of reasons. The first, and perhaps the most obvious reason, is that with Phase 3 mapped out, a sequel to Ant-Man is hitherto absent. Normally, that would be not an issue, since most studios (Marvel Studios included) want to gauge the audience's tolerance for a character and their desire to see that character again on the big screen by commercial success and to a lesser extent, critical response. Of course, that is not to say that Ant-Man will be completely absent from the MCU throughout all of Phase 3, but it is interesting to note that Feige has gone on record to say Hulk and Black Widow will feature prominently in Phase 3 films, even though neither character has a solo feature forthcoming.

The second [slightly more of a stretch] reason is that Marvel seem to be thoroughly excited with Avengers: Age of Ultron and Captain America: Civil War. We've already got some information about both of those films and how they might potentially shake up the MCU in unprecedented ways. But what about Ant-Man? How does a movie about Paul Rudd's Scott Lang attempting to steal some kind of tech stack up against those two landscape altering films? Is he stealing it from individuals employed by HYDRA? How will it affect the MCU, if at all? Refer back to my comparison of the Incredible Hulk. Did that film really have an affect on the MCU? At all? It seems that Marvel is trying desperately to get as far away from Louis Leterrier's film as possible. Besides Banner, what other characters have been reused? What parts of that film have affected the MCU, except for the destruction of Harlem? It's a stretch to find any plausible way to claim that the Incredible Hulk made an impact. I'm finding it difficult to think of ways Ant-Man can avoid this trip into near obscurity.

The third [this is where I'm beginning to really push into the realm of theory] reason is because of similar production issues with both films. Rumors broke of Norton's difficulty to work with and Louis Leterrier's directing capabilities. The film was a modest box office hit, grossing $264 million on a $150 million budget, but critical response was mixed at best. It is difficult to accept this, when the final battle between the Hulk and Abomination remains one of the best, if not the best, final fights in the entire MCU. Marvel Studios seems to show a pattern of reluctance to return to a troubled franchise. They could not anticipate the troubles they had on the Incredible Hulk, but it seems to be that some of that friction leaked through the film's otherwise decent production. Since then, they have been hesitant to return to a solo venture with the character. Will a similar fate befall Ant-Man? Clearly, more issues have plagued the production of the film, and it seems to be Marvel is making the film half-heartedly, because now they are obligated to do so. But how will the final product be received? Even if the film is more successful in terms of box office, how will it overcome the other aforementioned reasons? And, perhaps, the most important reason of all...



Hank Pym, a Proton in an Electron's Place

We already know that Paul Rudd will be playing Scott Lang, the titular character's second iteration. The talented Michael Douglas will be playing his predecessor, Hank Pym. Good so far, right? But that is literally where the good things seem to cease. Hank Pym has been stripped of his most important and valuable contribution to the Marvel Universe: being the creator of Ultron (that honour now applies to Tony Stark in the MCU). I find this rather disconcerting. If the Marvel Universe is an atom, Hank Pym would be a proton. He would be lodged tightly with other great minds like T'Challa, Reed Richards, and Bruce Banner, firmly in the nucleus of the structure. Instead, all indications seem to be that Pym will be regulated to the role of mentor, like an electron orbiting in a cloud. Without Pym's greatest triumph (or failure) in Ultron to really give us a reason to invest ourselves in the character, how can his character be given justice? I know Pym has a dark and abusive past, especially with Wasp, but what contributions can this version of the character truly give us? Perhaps a curve ball may be thrown in where it is revealed that Pym was actually the creator of Project Ultron. But I disgress.

It seems that Ant-Man is a character destined for mediocrity. Unless the film surprises us all by being exceptional, I do not forsee much of the film (save for Rudd and Douglas) to be used throughout the rest of the MCU. Thank you greatly for reading. Leave your impressions below.

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Kurne
Kurne - 10/29/2014, 5:05 AM
The film? Eh. The characters? It was Marvel's decision to cast these actors and they aren't just not going to use them. If they do waste talent like Paul Rudd and Evangeline Lilly I'll be pretty disappointed.

But yes, I do agree that this could be the new TIH in regards to relevance in the MCU. I wouldn't be surprised if it acted as a small (and final) lead-in to Civil War, giving some reason to look back on it as Phase Three moves along, which was also the case with TIH (besides the fact that it was a good film). IMO I said I'll be disappointed if they don't utilise Rudd or Lilly again, but I don't believe their characters will have as much presence going forward like Mark Ruffalo. That's saying something considering Hulk is currently bound to the Avengers series...

I hope it all works out nonetheless.
Kurne
Kurne - 10/29/2014, 5:07 AM
Like everyone else, I assume this "heist" could very well be important to the MCU (already or in the future).
TheLokey1
TheLokey1 - 10/29/2014, 8:25 AM
I think the fact that this is now being billed as the end of phase 2 is a pretty significant clue that it is going to tie into age of Ultron somehow.
medv4380
medv4380 - 10/29/2014, 8:26 AM
Unless you subscribe to coincidence it shouldn't be surprising that Ant-Man is coming right after Age of Ultron. I believe we've already seen Ultron on the big screen. Zola couldn't have come up with a program that's description matches that of Ultron's so exactly that it wasn't actually Ultron. Incite was probably Ultron mark 1 upgraded for modern computers. Given that we're going to see some flash back stuff back to the Peggy Carter days of shield with Pym I wouldn't be surprised if Zola stole most of it from Pym. From the description of Age of Ultron Tony resurrects a dormant peace keeping program. It is still very possible that Pym made the original Ultron Program, and that Tony's arrogance got the thing turned back on.

Remember, when Ultron first showed up no one knew who created him, but him. He had erased Pym's mind, and it had to be revield by flashback.

Also, they are probably still going to use the Incredible Hulk movie's story and plot at some point. They created The Leader, and The Leader is known for playing a very long game.
JacuzziJoe
JacuzziJoe - 10/29/2014, 8:30 AM
My thumb wasn't working. Great read, there ya go!
JacuzziJoe
JacuzziJoe - 10/29/2014, 8:39 AM
When did they confirm this was a part of Phase 2?

Also, to tie into what @medv4380 said, the description of the movie said "When Tony Stark jumpstarts a dormant peacekeeping program" so obviously it started somewhere. Let us not forget that Howard Stark is going to be in Ant Man AND Agent Carter. So the ties there are pretty obvious. Also, they have made mention to the events in TIH as well as Blonsky in Agents of Shield.

One last thing, could we see Pym's abuse take a turn against his daughter?
dirty30m
dirty30m - 10/29/2014, 9:42 AM
@jacuzzijoe
Kevin Feige did yesterday in one of the press Q&A vids. He basically said that Ant Man is the end of Phase 2 with Civil War being the beginning of Phase 3
AvisQuinn
AvisQuinn - 10/29/2014, 12:11 PM
I'm thankful for everyone reading my editorial. I hope everyone realizes that I do not want the film to fail. I am just as big as fanboy as anyone. I was merely raising concerns that make me feel that it may not be worthy of being a part of the MCU.
AvisQuinn
AvisQuinn - 10/30/2014, 5:25 PM
@Crabnado

For a very long time, I actually agreed with your assessment. I truly wanted to believe that Pym's greatest contributions were the good things he has done. The abuse was always such a dramatic thing for me to take. I am a fan of Pym for his intellect. But then his creation of Ultron was, without question, his lasting legacy in the Marvel Universe. Nothing he has done will ever be remembered as well as Ultron. Marvel tried to lessen the affect of Pym's mistake by having Ultron wipe his memory of ever making him. I agree creating Ultron was what solidified him as a screw-up. I also happen to believe that Ultron was his GREATEST contribution.

That notwithstanding, I agree he has mentored other characters to have great success. But at the cost of his experience at failing.
MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 11/2/2014, 2:14 AM
I'm looking forward to Ant-Man. Sure i'm disappointed that Edgar Wright left the project, the director has made one of my favorite horror themed comedies and if the MCU is still trying to have a balance of maturity mixed with humor then Wright would have been perfect. I'm not sure about this new director, never liked Yes Man or Bring it on.

Right now i'm optimistic however i don't like Pym from the comic books. I don't like his history and never liked the character. I do like how the main focus will be Paul Rudd's character of Scott Lang as the audience can connect to that character.

For those who are still disgruntled that Pym didn't create Ultron, we don't know that for sure.
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