Why I still think Hank Pym will create Ultron in The Avengers: Age of Ultron

Why I still think Hank Pym will create Ultron in The Avengers: Age of Ultron

Why I still think that despite everything we already know, Hank Pym could still be the true creator of Ultron in Avengers 2.

Editorial Opinion
By ChronicChris - Mar 19, 2014 05:03 AM EST



Recently i got to thinking and thought that despite everything we know and have been told by Joss Whedon and Marvel Studios that Hank Pym very will could still be the true creator of Ultron in Avengers: Age of Ultron. This is how I think they may do it, leading into Ant-Man.

First of all lets look at why we think he's not.
a) Marvel straight up said he doesn't create him
b) The teaser trailer that shows Iron Man's helmet turning into Ultron
c) Ant-Man's movie doesn't come out until AFTER Avengers: AOU

Well lets look at reason A, and all I really think is that they're lying. Hank Pym's role in the film might be too important of a surprise to say he's in it. I think they might just be throwing us off but doing a reversal with what they did with The Mandarin in Iron Man 3. With that they made us believe that we were going to get a somewhat accurate version of The Mandarin from the comics we know and love... and then we get Trevor. Heaps of fans everywhere were in outrage and some still think that we might get a faithful version of The Mandarin down the line. (Personally, I don't). But is it possible they're doing it again but the other way around? This time they're saying they're changing Ultron's origin by not having Hank Pym involved, which is a pretty huge change if you know the character. But maybe they'll shock us by involving Hank Pym in his creation after all. This time the surprise will leave us happy, rather than disappointed. Sure they could of just said Hank Pym will create him from the get go but that would take the surprise out of it. Plus fans getting angry about them changing his origin gets them talking about the movie, but still peaking interest in it by asking 'So what are they going to do instead?'

So reason B, that teaser trailer. Well we can all agree that this doesn't really confirm anything. It could mean that Tony Stark maybe helps Hank Pym in the creation, basing Ultron's original design off of the Iron Man suit. But I doubt Tony Stark is the sole reason for Ultron being born.

Finally for reason C, Now if we're going to have Hank Pym in Avengers 2.. then why is his movie coming out afterwards? Don't we need an origin movie first if we're having Ant-Man in The Avengers?
Well I don't think we do. I think Hank Pym's history is the one that will really be changed for this to work but not by much. So how old was he when he created the Pym Particles in the comics? I'm not sure but lets just say he's in his mid thirties. Wouldn't it be more realistic that he finally finished making them when he was too old to even become a superhero? Hank Pym is being played by Michael Douglas who is turning 70 this year. I think it would turn out that Hank has essentially created Ant-Man, but has never become him or let any body else either. Until he meets Scott Lang, the first worthy successor of becoming the Ant-Man that will carry on through out the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

During Avengers 2 they could mention his work on the Pym Particles but never delve into what they really are or what they could do. In this he would simply be Hank Pym the scientist, not Hank Pym the former superhero. It could be that maybe moving on from creating the Pym Particles that never came into play, that he starts working on Ultron. Plus like i said earlier maybe he won't do it alone. They could change it that he had help from possibly Tony Stark or SHIELD or rather that the impact of the events of The Avengers and they're existence alone is why he creates them in the first place. But I think Ultron will still primarily come from Hank Pym's mind.

This leads perfectly into Ant-Man as the start of Phase 3. It's in this film where we delve into the impact of what the events of Avengers 2 will have on Hank. Ultron will kill possibly thousands of people before The Avengers stop him, while Hank would have to watch and do nothing. Ant-Man would be his redemption film, where he helps create the super hero he couldn't be with Scott Lang.

I really hope I'm right about all this purely as a fan of the Ultron story line. But if Joss Whedon is telling the truth and we really are getting a totally different interpretation of Ultron's origins then I'm sure what ever they come up with will be awesome. Possibly even better.

Thanks for reading! This is my first article on this website so please comment!
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Emblemmaniac
Emblemmaniac - 3/19/2014, 6:03 AM
Hank Pym is not going to be in Avengers 2? He is going to be in Ant-man

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2395427/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast

Otherwize, great article
NightWatcher
NightWatcher - 3/19/2014, 7:29 AM
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Alphadog
Alphadog - 3/19/2014, 7:35 AM
Marvel never actually said that Hank Pym wouldn't create Ulrton, just that Hank Pym wouldn't appear in Avengers AOU. They could still make him the creator of Ultron without him appearing in the movie by saying that later on.
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 3/19/2014, 7:38 AM
When did Marvel say we were getting a comic accurate Mandarin? Dont know what you were reading, but they said from the start that he wasnt chinese, and then they told us the rings were just symbolic and they didnt have powers. I likewise, stopped reading after you brought this up. Lay off the Chronic.
kong
kong - 3/19/2014, 7:42 AM
All they have to say is while Tony was looking through some files that he stole in the first Avenges he came across the work of a retired SHIELD scientist named Henry Pym. He started developing A.I technology way before anyone else had and developed some great ideas for it. Tony decides to continue his unfinished work. They can tease Pym particles in there too.
GizmoEl
GizmoEl - 3/19/2014, 9:41 AM
I think it's highly possible that hank will have a hand in creating ULTRON. Maybe we'll even get to see him cameo.
DanMcNice
DanMcNice - 3/19/2014, 10:35 AM
Nice article.
I want to believe...
Lhornbk
Lhornbk - 3/19/2014, 10:41 AM
*sigh* here go the fanboys again. *sigh*

Yes, Whedon has said specifically that Pym has nothing to do with it. So face facts and get over it already.
bropous
bropous - 3/19/2014, 11:59 AM
Yup, I'm still not buying that Hank Pym is not involved in the creation of Ultron, and I do think it highly possible that his connection to Ultron may not be revealed until the Ant-Man film.

Nice article.

God with shorter paragraphs and throw in some pictures.

Good effort.
Bearjew
Bearjew - 3/19/2014, 12:16 PM
Actually Marvel did say Hank Pym doesn't create Ultron. Joss Whedon : "You don't need a Pym to get an Ultron."
TheePeterParker
TheePeterParker - 3/19/2014, 1:39 PM

.. Dude, Joss Whedon already confirmed that Hank Pym will not create Ultron... MOVE ON
TheePeterParker
TheePeterParker - 3/19/2014, 1:40 PM
@dellamorte1872

You always talk like you know, but yet you could you're facts from nowhere, stop talking like you know everything.
BubSnikt
BubSnikt - 3/19/2014, 4:47 PM
Good editorial. #Merica
MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 3/19/2014, 6:37 PM
Interesting theory.

I think Tony Stark will create him. It's evident and there are some hints in Iron Man 3.
sikwon
sikwon - 3/19/2014, 7:48 PM
The Mandarin twist was awesome. .. good article. It's all about what happens in Cap2.
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