AVATAR: THE WAY OF WATER Director James Cameron Says He Supports Thanos' Genocidal Depopulation Plan

AVATAR: THE WAY OF WATER Director James Cameron Says He Supports Thanos' Genocidal Depopulation Plan

Avatar: The Way of Water director James Cameron has admitted that he "can relate to Thanos" after the Mad Titan set out to wipe out half of all life in an effort to save the universe. Read on for details!

By JoshWilding - Feb 21, 2023 06:02 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Endgame
Source: TIME (via SFFGazette.com)

Avatar: The Way of Water director James Cameron has always been a passionate advocate for environmental activism. It's something that's found its way into his movies too, with his latest featuring messages about protecting our oceans and its predecessor, 2009's Avatar, more concerned with the world's rainforests. 

We certainly can't fault the filmmaker for attempting to educate audiences through his work, but could the world's apparent lack of interest in protecting the future be part of Cameron's supervillain origin story?

During a recent interview with TIME (via SFFGazette.com), the Terminator helmer admitted that he felt a surprisingly personal connection to Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame villain Thanos. 

"I can relate to Thanos...I thought he had a pretty viable answer," Cameron said of a possible cull of humanity in order to protect the planet. "The problem is nobody is going to put up their hand to volunteer to be the half that has to go."

We think he's joking, but honestly couldn't say for sure! 

In the same interview, Cameron was asked to share his thoughts on Avatar: The Way of Water's Oscar chances (it received a surprise "Best Picture" nomination) and he offered a harsh critique of the Academy. 

"How do you compare Tár to Avatar?" he asks. "How do you judge which one is better? It’s ludicrous on its face. I think it’s a bit elitist in a way that at least they shouldn’t be mystified as their audience numbers go down. It’s been a long time since a crowd pleaser won for Best Picture."

"From experience, it’s better to win than not win. It’s better to be nominated than not nominated, no matter how much you want intellectually to argue the whole thing away."

In our review last year, we concluded by saying: "Avatar: The Way of Water’s epic visuals are impossible to find fault with, but with a paper-thin, painfully boring story and little in the way of character development, this three-hour snoozefest is all style, no substance."

As for the next chapter, Avatar 3 is set to be released in theaters on December 20, 2024 (assuming Cameron isn't too busy hunting down the Infinity Stones...).

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FireandBlood - 2/21/2023, 6:05 AM
I’m calling the Avengers.
TheUnworthyThor - 2/21/2023, 6:07 AM
It’s a completely idiotic plan that no sane person would support hence Thanos being a great big insane dum dum. The population of the earth in 1973 was less than four billion, in the last fifty years that population has doubled. Meaning that if Thanos halved the population of the universe he probably only bought the universe fifty years until they are right back to where they were before. And he destroyed the infinity stones so it’s not like he can just keep doing it every fifty years.

He could have tripled the amount of life sustaining planets. He could have given us ten times the resources. But no he just wanted to kill a bunch of people.
bkmeijer1 - 2/21/2023, 6:23 AM
@TheUnworthyThor - I guess you can't create stuff out of thin air without the proper resources (for plants, you need oxygen and C02 and such).

Still, there were other solutions. Better ways to divide food and ways to reduce waste would already go a long way. All he had to do was conjure up a rulebook.
TheUnworthyThor - 2/21/2023, 6:30 AM
@bkmeijer1 - Why can’t you? He has control over reality, space, time, the mind, the soul and all the power he needs. He should be able to create things out of thin air. He sure seemed to be in parts of the movie. And there is absolutely no reason why you can’t convert methane into oxygen or whatever a planet doesn’t need into whatever it does need. If he can make people disappear why can’t he make pollutants disappear?
bkmeijer1 - 2/21/2023, 7:23 AM
@TheUnworthyThor - true. I got no way of justifying that except for saying Thanos is a moron
ShimmyShimmyYA - 2/21/2023, 7:41 AM
@TheUnworthyThor - I GUESS his argument against that would be that by expanding the resources you’d just accelerate the population rise (but he is the mad titan for a reason)
Arthorious - 2/21/2023, 7:44 AM
@TheUnworthyThor - yeah both of Thanos’s reasonings, in the movie and the comic, are pretty stupid.
MadThanos - 2/21/2023, 8:31 AM
@TheUnworthyThor - I think the point was, if you give more they'll ask for more and more.

Never was sustainable duplicating resources.

TheUnworthyThor - 2/21/2023, 8:39 AM
@MadThanos - Well it was sustainable…. He had magic wishing rocks, he could have supplied everyone with everything forever.
CorndogBurglar - 2/21/2023, 9:29 AM
@Arthorious - You could at least expand on his comic reason by saying that if he courted Death then he would become even more powerful. Him with the Infinity Gauntlet and his bride, Death? They could easily rule the universe together.

That would have made it more than just him wanting to win over a female.
newhire13 - 2/21/2023, 11:36 AM
@bkmeijer1 - I don’t think he’s a moron, he’s just psychotic with extreme blood lust and a massive ego. It was never about saving the universe, it was about controlling the universe and shaping it to his vision.
bkmeijer1 - 2/21/2023, 11:41 AM
@newhire13 - meant moreso that he was a moron because he didn't look at other solutions. Thanos seems like a smart person, just a not a very wise one.

Think it wasn't about control though, because otherwise he wouldn't have been fine with being snapped away himself either.
JonC - 2/21/2023, 12:14 PM
@TheUnworthyThor - in reality it is events that trigger mass population growth and not simply time... by halving humanity and doubling resources he gave those left a great reason to fornicate to their hearts content... they literally could double the population in a year...
to make an analogy, heading into war babies born tend to drop off due to unknown futures... but coming out of the war and especially being the victor can result in a baby boom.
Origame - 2/21/2023, 6:09 AM
Yeah that's a misinterpretation. He's simply saying it COULD work. Not that it's the moral thing to do. He even said no one would volunteer to be the half that goes, implying the only option is if it's done voluntarily. Thanos didn't bother with asking permission.

And if your asking of the opinion if the Thanos plan could work, many would probably say yes (they're wrong, but that's another story).
bkmeijer1 - 2/21/2023, 6:20 AM
@Origame - they're wrong indeed. We've known for decades that Malthus' theory was wrong, so Thanos extreme solution to it is as well.
mountainman - 2/21/2023, 8:25 AM
@Origame - Places like Canada are rapidly moving towards more and more assisted suicides. Really gross.
ScaryTerry - 2/21/2023, 9:55 AM
@mountainman - Not necessarily. People in chronic pain should have the right to choose to die. Why not with dignity? I agree that there should be some safeguards in place (Counseling, all other options exhausted etc), but ultimately it should be the decision of the individual when their life ends.
mountainman - 2/21/2023, 9:57 AM
@ScaryTerry - 100% agree with someone’s right to do it. But Canada is now recommending it to people who are too expensive to treat. Just one of the many downfalls of socialized healthcare. Limited resources.
ScaryTerry - 2/21/2023, 10:02 AM
@mountainman - Yea, I read that. Evidently it’s illegal to do that on that basis. As far as I know, it’s being dealt with.

For the record, I’m American. Denver area. I cannot speak on Canadian affairs anecdotally.
mountainman - 2/21/2023, 10:33 AM
@ScaryTerry - Hey I’m in the Denver area too! All I know about the issue is what i’ve seen reported on. I’m not claiming it’s widespread, but it certainly sounds problematic in certain cases.
ScaryTerry - 2/21/2023, 12:12 PM
@mountainman - Oh absolutely. It’s the moral antithesis of universal healthcare.
TheVandalore - 2/21/2023, 6:14 AM
Yo, there are tons of self deletion volunteers. If we legalized it and had places to help people safely and respectfully end their suffering, yo..... this would be a thing. I think it already is in some places.
ProfessorWhy - 2/21/2023, 6:36 AM
@TheVandalore - but then critical thinking would have to replace blind faith. I suppose Thanos could have achieved that....
bkmeijer1 - 2/21/2023, 6:15 AM
Bet that, like Thanos, Jim must be a big Thomas Malthus fan then.

Anyway, think Cameron raises a good point about winning or being nominated for awards. It is elitist, but unlike Thanos short-sighted plan it atleast has some credibility.
bkmeijer1 - 2/21/2023, 6:17 AM
Also, I would raise my hand if half had to go. Mars, the Moon or even a planet in a galaxy far away (Pandora?) are all places I'd like to go to.
bobevanz - 2/21/2023, 6:18 AM
So this is why he's trying to make all this money from the box office hmmm
CorndogBurglar - 2/21/2023, 6:18 AM
Uhh no. It was a stupid plan that was only a temporary solution.
MadThanos - 2/21/2023, 7:28 AM
@CorndogBurglar - a temporary solution that would give time for the human kind to rebuild around the right solution.

Not to mention that it stopped the birth of a Celestial. Right?

Just show some appreciation.
Arthorious - 2/21/2023, 7:50 AM
@MadThanos - All Thanos did was to slow that process down. It was the Eternals stopped the Celestial from being born. And I doubt humanity was going to look for a right solution.
MadThanos - 2/21/2023, 8:01 AM
@Arthorious - I have doubts about that too.

But the warnings go on that tiny legal text, right? 🤫
CorndogBurglar - 2/21/2023, 8:19 AM
@MadThanos - It slowed down the birth if the Celestial. If you want to be technical about it, it actually sold up the Celestial birth because when they did the Blip and all the missing people returned, 5 years passed. And as far as we know, none of the people that were snapped died while they were gone. Which means when they came back, the population was higher than it would have been.

But at the end of the day, it was a stupid and temporary plan. The Celestial didn't even factor into Thanos' planning. He probably didn't even know about Celestials living inside planets.

"a temporary solution that would give time for the human kind to rebuild around the right solution."

But if he had done one of the million things he COULD have done that didn't include killing half the universe then no one would even need to plan for a right solution lol.
MadThanos - 2/21/2023, 8:27 AM
@CorndogBurglar - I think he knew.

There are some unused arts from Infinity War that shows Thanos exiled on a nearby planet destroyed by a Celestial. We never got to really know their process of destroying a planet after the Celestial is born.

Also the caption confirms that was why the Power Stone was his favorite. He knew what it could do.

So as far as I understand, he already knew. So he was advocating in Titan for the reduction of population. He got kicked out of the planet and got exiled and while there it happened in his presence.
CorndogBurglar - 2/21/2023, 9:31 AM
@MadThanos - Even if he did know they don't even so much as hint at it in the movies. You can quote unused things from a book, but at the end of the day, the movie didn't mention it or even come close to doing it.
CorndogBurglar - 2/21/2023, 9:44 AM
@MadThanos - But again, it didn't stop the Celestial from being born. It slowed it down. It would have eventually been born anyway, only this time Thanos wouldn't have the Infinity Gems to stop it again.
CorndogBurglar - 2/21/2023, 9:52 AM
@MadThanos - And, even taking the Celestial argument off the table, he specifically mentioned natural resources.

So the only way his plan could have worked is if he would have had to make the universe's natural resources replenish themselves automatically. Because even with half the universe's population, natural resources would still eventually run out. It would take longer. But it would still happen.
OrgasmicPotatoe - 2/21/2023, 6:18 AM
I always thought the guy seemed unhinged, but holy [frick], but this is bill gates level of unhinged !
DrReedRichards - 2/21/2023, 6:29 AM
Hot take: Endgame Thanos had the better idea.

"As long as there are those that remember what was, there will always be those that are unable to accept what can be. They will resist."

Those who aren't to blame don't deserve to suffer, and those responsible don't deserve to enjoy the labors of others.

In the words of a misunderstood murderbot:

"Boom. The end. Start again. The world made clean, for the new man to rebuild."
Fogs - 2/21/2023, 6:43 AM
Dumbass mother[frick]er.
dragon316 - 2/21/2023, 6:56 AM
One is pretty watch nothing more and avengers fun to watch have no pretty look at long boring pretty , non pretty fun to watch tough decision.

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