AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR Directors May Have An Explanation For AGE OF ULTRON's Thanos Plot Hole

AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR Directors May Have An Explanation For AGE OF ULTRON's Thanos Plot Hole

Avengers: Age of Ultron ended with Thanos retrieving the Infinity Gauntlet and saying, "Fine, I'll do it myself." That directly contradicts the events of Infinity War but the Russos have an explanation.

By JoshWilding - May 07, 2018 11:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Infinity War
Source: ComicBook.com
At the end of Avengers: Age of Ultron, we saw Thanos retrieve the Infinity Gauntlet from what appeared to be a safe of some sort as he declared, "Fine, I'll do it myself." That was a reference to Loki and Ronan failure to secure the Infinity Stones for him but the scene no longer makes sense now that we know [SPOILERS] the Mad Titan actually forced Eitri on Nidavellir to forge the Gauntlet for him.

Now, Avengers: Infinity War directors Joe and Anthony Russo have attempted to explain where that sequence fits into things. In fact, Joe has pointed to the scene actually taking place on Nidavellir!

"I think that it would be connected to Eitri," he revealed. "I think that
clearly he is the one who forged the gauntlet and Thanos had the gauntlet at that point in time. It's been a while since any of the Asgardians have interacted with Eitri and his people." While Avengers: Infinity War made it sound like Thanos had only recently gained the Infinity Gauntlet, it's feasible he actually did that years earlier.

With that in mind, Age of Ultron's after-credits scene definitely makes at least a little more sense even if it clearly wasn't the plan at the time. In fact, seeing as the Infinity Gauntlet first popped up in THOR, it seems Marvel was never sure where it came from as that was dismissed as a fake in Thor: Ragnarok!
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TheAccuser
TheAccuser - 5/7/2018, 11:32 AM
This was basically my headcannon. These "plotholes" are pretty easy to decipher with common sense.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 5/7/2018, 11:45 AM
@TheAccuser - Exactly. Not every post-credit scene has to occur moments after the film they're attached to. Look at Homecoming. The comedic Captain America post credit scene was a flashback video recorded after The Avengers for positive enforcement for those who looked up to Captain America.

And Thanos obtaining the gauntlet could have easily taken place while the black order massacred the dying star.
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 5/8/2018, 3:39 PM
@TheAccuser - this is obviously a plot line that they decided to change after Thor: Ragnarok was written. The door sealing the guantlet in Age of Ultron was clearly the exact same one that sealed in The Destroyer armor.

This stuff doesnt bother me though, if they come up with a better story, then by all means, scrap the crappier version.

MNLawyer
MNLawyer - 5/7/2018, 11:33 AM
Its just as likely the end credit takes place years later, like the GOTG VOl2 scene with teen Groot
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 5/7/2018, 11:45 AM
@MNLawyer - Exactly. That scene could have taken place days or hours before the Guardians received that distress signal from the Asgardian ship.
Frshcoupe
Frshcoupe - 5/7/2018, 11:35 AM
He grabbed it from a vault. That’s why Hela said “fake” as she knocked it over. They don’t really need to explain it now after Ragnarok.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 5/7/2018, 12:30 PM
@Frshcoupe - The problem is people want characters to hold their hand and say "Hey this is a flashback!"

Marvel has done an excellent job weaving in prior plot points in other movies to build more connections and to add more lore. Look at Red Skull. For 7 years we have been wondering where he went. And finally in Infinity War we got that answer.

People just don't want to have to rewatch sequences and piece them together. That scene with Thanos grabbing the gauntlet could have been Whedon's vision for the story. And the Russos put that sequence in with more lore telling us Thanos killed Eitri's people after getting the gauntlet.
gulducati
gulducati - 5/7/2018, 11:35 AM
A better explanation would be that the scene took place after Thor Ragnarok, even though it was the end credits scene for Age of Ultron. Nobody ever said the end credits scene had to take place exactly after the movie you just saw. Eitri finishes the gauntlet, Thanos slips it on and says "fine, i'll do it myself." Turns around and slaughters the dwarves with his chitauri.
PsychoticSpaceRaccoon
PsychoticSpaceRaccoon - 5/7/2018, 11:36 AM
I'm so glad they fixed Thanos' face.

He looks like a cartoon here and in Guardians.

I was really worried about that, but they nailed it in IW.
GoldGuy
GoldGuy - 5/7/2018, 12:29 PM
@PsychoticSpaceRaccoon - Yeah, his face is a lot more realistic (and expressive) in IW - especially the eyes, which is maybe the most important part when it comes to emoting.
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 5/7/2018, 11:37 AM
Forget about that.

Rewatching GOTG, the Thanos scene is weird & kind of contradicts Thanos is IF

I mean sure I doubt they had a landscape on how Thanos will be in IF. GOTG & AOU Thanos is different in attitude & design from IF Thanos

Anyone else feel this way?
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