AVENGERS: SECRET WARS Rumors Point To Long-Awaited Reunions... With A Dark Twist - Possible SPOILERS

AVENGERS: SECRET WARS Rumors Point To Long-Awaited Reunions... With A Dark Twist - Possible SPOILERS

We have some rumors relating to Marvel Studios' plans for Avengers: Secret Wars, and, if accurate, our new team of Earth's Mightiest Heroes may be encountering a few familiar faces...

By MarkCassidy - Feb 26, 2025 12:02 PM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Secret Wars

Rumors relating to both Avengers: Doomsday and Secret Wars started doing the rounds online shortly after the projects were announced, but some recent developments may have given us a clearer picture of what to expect.

The initial announcement that Robert Downey Jr. would return as Doctor Doom prompted speculation that this version of the villain could be a Tony Stark variant, and subsequent reports that Chris Evans and Scarlett Johansson might be set to reprise their respective roles as Steve Rogers and Natasha Romanoff hinted at the possibility of a team of evil Avengers assembling to do battle with the MCU's new roster of Earth's Mightiest Heroes.

Paul from the Heavy Spoilers Show has now shared a new video relaying what he's heard about Secret Wars, and he believes the plan is indeed to have "mirror characters" such as Sam Wilson (Captain America), Yelena Belova (Black Widow), Kate Bishop (Hawkeye) and Peter Parker (Spider-Man... but also Iron-Boy!) come face-to-face with their predecessors/mentors.

He specifically mentions an "emotional reunion" between Yelena and Natasha, but it sounds like our New Avengers won't be immediately aware that the Multiversal variants they encounter are actually "a twisted version" of the OG Avengers, and things soon take a dark turn.

Apparently, "Doom is leading an evil group of Avengers that come from another earth," and "the entire point of creating these characters that reflect the original line-up, is because they'll be facing off against each other."

If this is accurate, it would obviously suggest that Downey Jr. is indeed playing a Tony Stark variant and not the Victor Von Doom, although it's worth noting that there have been conflicting reports about the actor staying on as Doom post Secret Wars

This is very much just a rumor for now, but it does gel with some previous reports. How would you feel about the original Avengers cast reassembling as an evil take on the team? Let us know in the comments section down below.

Avengers: Doomsday arrives in theaters on May 1, 2026, followed by Avengers: Secret Wars on May 7, 2027. Both films will be directed by the Russo brothers, who also make their MCU return after helming Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Captain America: Civil War, Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame.

"Being able to create stories and explore characters within the Marvel Universe fulfilled a life-long dream of ours, and we discovered a powerful connection with audiences in each film that we made. We’re thrilled to collaborate once again with Kevin, Lou and the entire Marvel team to bring this epic adventure in storytelling to new and surprising places for both the fans and ourselves”, said The Russos in a statement after the SDCC panel.

Both movies are expected to shoot (almost) back-to-back, with production kicking off this April in the UK.

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BreakTheCode
BreakTheCode - 2/26/2025, 12:23 PM
This sounds terrible
DaHULK2000
DaHULK2000 - 2/26/2025, 12:52 PM
@BreakTheCode - Very. Its pretty desperate.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 2/26/2025, 1:24 PM
@BreakTheCode - who the [frick] is Paul?
Matchesz
Matchesz - 2/26/2025, 1:57 PM
@BreakTheCode - remember when we all complained the villains were just evil versions of the hero? Well wait til you get a load of thissssss
CharlesLeeRay
CharlesLeeRay - 2/26/2025, 12:24 PM
It's never too late for:

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SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 2/26/2025, 12:59 PM
@CharlesLeeRay - I said this when Multiverse of Madness came out. Universe 616 and Universe 838 are the first to have an Incursion and Superior Iron Man (Cruise) and The Invisible Woman (Blunt) prepare their Universe for the Incursion but also for war against The Scarlet Witch of 616. In the aftermath of the two universes colliding Dr. Doom (838) is free from his imprisonment and while the two universes battle, he begins is ascent into godhood to reach the end of time.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 2/26/2025, 1:26 PM
@SonOfAGif - your Multiverse of Madness script sounds so much better. You need to be writing comics man. Your ideas are always dope. Have you considered at least sharing these story breakdowns with us as fan editorials here on the site?
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 2/26/2025, 3:02 PM
@McMurdo - I have. I just don't know how to go about it without them being taken down since they are just opinion pieces. I would like to actually do some sort of "How I would have done it" segment on various movie sequels (not exclusive to comics) but in general. I do have so much ideas and I do respect source material and even if a movie was middle quality to awful, I still find ways to make them work and hold value to a sequel.
DOOMSPEAKS
DOOMSPEAKS - 2/26/2025, 12:27 PM
Dumb.
GirshwinDavies
GirshwinDavies - 2/26/2025, 12:30 PM
Brittlebrick Taylor
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 2/26/2025, 12:32 PM
So, they're literally bringing back the original Avengers to shit all over their legacy in an effort to make these less interesting and less popular new Avengers to look "better" by comparison like I though.

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MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 2/26/2025, 12:36 PM
@Feralwookiee - User Comment Image

its depressing as f*ck if thats the case and super lame to be honest
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 2/26/2025, 12:40 PM
@Feralwookiee - to be far..... it worked for star wars
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mountainman
mountainman - 2/26/2025, 12:53 PM
@Feralwookiee - If they do this, I’m sure many people will like the bad guy team more than the hero team.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 2/26/2025, 1:24 PM
Or NON of them are variants of the originals and Doom is simply using tech or magic to make them look like them for nefarious reasons.

Till we actualy see the film impossible to say if whatever they went with is good or bad but even if they were variants it wouldn't negate ours becoming the best versions of themselves if presented with the worst versions they could have been if their lives took radicaly differing directions such as Nat making Clint defect rather than the other way around and also entirely possible considering where things are heading the new Avengers will fail which wouldn't exactly make them look better if beaten by a team that looks like the originals.

Either way dumb too write off a movie before it is even filmed just based of rumors that could be made up BS.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 2/26/2025, 1:32 PM
@mountainman - undoubtedly and all the youtube talking heads will bury this. It's one thing if Tony Stark, Steve Rodgers, the real Hulk, Wanda etc are still on Team A.....but Team A is being led by the Falcon, Black Panther's sister, a recovering alcoholic Thor, and a Doctor Strange who makes such piss poor decisions that he is undoubtedly going to receive the lion share of blame for the entire multiverse crumbling beneath our feet. Add in Iron Girl, the freaking Thunderbolts or whatever that Team is supposed to be, She Hulk and God knows who else......how do you not root for the bad guys lol.
mountainman
mountainman - 2/26/2025, 2:14 PM
@McMurdo - Yeah man. This one will probably mirror Infinity War and the villains will win anyway, only for Secret Wars will be where the multiversal heroes come back and win.

This could lead to a good box office, but it will just further highlight the popularity gap.

As I’ve said too many times before, there is no problem with including less popular characters, but Marvel is doing itself a big disservice by not having the core of its universe being its most popular characters.
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 2/26/2025, 2:14 PM
@mountainman - I suppose so, but at the same time, it feels like they're lowering the bar so much if this is legit. Smh
mountainman
mountainman - 2/26/2025, 2:15 PM
@Feralwookiee - Yup. Having the OGs as the villains from other universes is such a silly idea.
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 2/26/2025, 2:20 PM
@mountainman - Yeah, but it's also so LAZY imo.
The Marvel universe is so gigantic, with so many characters and villains to pick from, and THIS is what they're going with?
I was against RDJ coming back in any fashion from day one and I still am now. Just terrible choices imo.
mountainman
mountainman - 2/26/2025, 2:28 PM
@Feralwookiee - It’s really just a lazy attempt to get butts in seats. Also don’t like the RDJ as Doom casting, whether it’s a variant of Stark or not. But bringing back all the OGs as villains is much worse than just doing that.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/26/2025, 3:13 PM
@mountainman - THIS!

I'll def be Team Classic all the way. They should market it that way, because if it's just an incursion and it's, like The Leader said, just another planet of superheroes protecting their rather than just plain evil versions, then it's heroes versus heroes. Like Civil War.
Except it's possible that the other Earth will not only have the classic Avengers but also X-Men and FF (although it might not have FF unless the other Earth is actually the Earth from TFF- First Steps).
deamon
deamon - 2/26/2025, 12:32 PM
Hawkeye is alive, so no thx.
Tony's variant can have his team, but Clint shouldn't be there.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 2/26/2025, 12:37 PM
@deamon - Clint needs to be there, how else are they gonna prove that Kate is the better hawkeye?
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 2/26/2025, 12:45 PM
@harryba11zack - This. ^
She can't just be a good character who's defined by her unique personality; she has to upstage the male version of herself that she's based on.

She's gonna split Clint's arrows right down the middle while calling him a bitch, then toppling over a snowcat onto his crotch, while she jumps up and down on him screaming "WHO'S THE WORLD'S GREATEST ARCHER NOW, YOU DICKLESS WONDER?!?"
Then, she BRAPS in his face and the credits roll.

[I will expect my royalty check in mail from Disney soon.]
BabyLasagna
BabyLasagna - 2/26/2025, 1:06 PM
@deamon - let the poor man retire already
SummersEssex
SummersEssex - 2/26/2025, 1:09 PM
@Feralwookiee - You doin' ok?
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 2/26/2025, 1:41 PM
@SummersEssex -

He's definitely okay. 🙂
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 2/26/2025, 2:10 PM
@SummersEssex - Better than Hawkeye's balls. 👍
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 2/26/2025, 12:34 PM
having evil ironman, captain american and black window is a great story element that will definitely work in getting us to start cheering for the new heros like IRONHEART, captain falcon and black window 2.0.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 2/26/2025, 12:37 PM
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MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 2/26/2025, 12:40 PM
They could hand people a one hundred dollar bill with every ticket purchased, and I still wouldn't buy a ticket for Doomsday or Secret War.
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 2/26/2025, 12:45 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea - Good for you?
DocSpock
DocSpock - 2/26/2025, 12:51 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea -

Really? This is the most important thing happening in comic book movies by a long shot.

I understand the usual things you don't like about these movies lately, and I agree with you on a lot of them.

But...... you are on a comic book movie website all the time. How could you not want to see the most epic event regarding them in several years?

BabyLasagna
BabyLasagna - 2/26/2025, 1:07 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea - of course you want them to give away free money, you communist!

We work for our money here, if you don't like it vote for Komala next time in 6 years, leftie
SummersEssex
SummersEssex - 2/26/2025, 1:09 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea - doubt.
DarthAlgar
DarthAlgar - 2/26/2025, 1:12 PM
@BabyLasagna - Pfft. That cocksmoker is never going to run for office again.

The Democratic powers that be wouldn't even allow it.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 2/26/2025, 1:43 PM
@DocSpock -

Nice.

I'll definitely watch them, but I'm not paying for them.

And neither are a lot of other fans of the best MCU movies.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 2/26/2025, 1:45 PM
@BabyLasagna -

Kamala, and it would be less than four years from now, not six years from now.
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