AVENGERS: THE KANG DYNASTY "Confirmed" To Have Ditched Writer Jeff Loveness As He Was "Wrapped Up" In Kang

AVENGERS: THE KANG DYNASTY "Confirmed" To Have Ditched Writer Jeff Loveness As He Was "Wrapped Up" In Kang

This isn't the first time we've heard this rumour, but a reliable source claims Jeff Loveness is definitely off Avengers: The Kang Dynasty because Marvel Studios is starting to move away from Kang plans...

By JoshWilding - Nov 13, 2023 03:11 PM EST

There's a lot of speculation surrounding Marvel Studios' Multiverse Saga plans, particularly after the largely negative reaction to Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania earlier this year. 

Along with Loki, the threequel was supposed to set the stage for Kang the Conqueror to be this Saga's big bad; unfortunately, Marvel Studios failed to take into account that having the new Thanos die at the hands of Ant-Man wasn't going to do anything to increase interest in him moving forward. 

Then, there are the well-publicised legal issues faced by Kang actor Jonathan Majors. Depending on how his upcoming court case goes, his time in the MCU may soon reach its end (if it hasn't already).

Talking on The Ringer's House of R podcast, MCU: The Reign of Marvel Studios author Joanna Robinson shared an update on where things stand with Avengers: The Kang Dynasty and confirmed Loveness is off the movie. 

"I heard from someone recently...the screenwriter Jeff Loveness, who wrote Quantumania, was supposed to write The Kang Dynasty...anyway, it's confirmed. I had it confirmed to me he's no longer working for Marvel," she reveals. "I asked the person why, and they said the reason why is he was all wrapped up in this Kang storyline and they are likely going to be moving away from that."

It seems Marvel Studios lost faith in Loveness being able to continue Kang's story, though the bigger issue may be the fact they're considering moving on from the time-traveller altogether. The Loki season 2 finale potentially went some way in helping with that, and it would be easy enough for a new big bad to take credit for destroying the Council of Kangs. Heck, maybe Loki himself can remove those Variants from his new Multiverse.

Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings director Destin Daniel Cretton remains attached to helm The Kang Dynasty, but if the movie is undergoing significant story changes, then who knows if that's still the case. 

Most fans would have preferred to see the filmmaker focus on a Shang-Chi sequel, but he's instead been working on a Wonder Man Disney+ TV series which, not that long ago, we heard had potentially been scrapped by Marvel Studios. There's still no official word on that front, though. 

As for Avengers: Secret Wars, it was back in August we first heard writer Michael Waldron had been dropped from the movie. If so, the decision appears to be a result of the somewhat tepid response to his work on Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness

There are those already pushing for Loki season 2 Head Writer Eric Martin to take charge of penning both Avengers projects, but like Loveness and Waldron, he too comes from that same group of former Rick and Morty scribes hired by Marvel Studios when the Infinity Saga ended. 

Still, considering the fact he's said to have taken over writing duties on Loki season 1 from Waldron, he may well be the right choice to get these movies where they need to be. For Marvel Studios, though, their best bet might be turning to Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame writers Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely.

As always, keep checking back here for updates as we have them. 

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Thing94 - 11/13/2023, 3:17 PM
Yeah! Change everything!
SauronthePower - 11/13/2023, 4:45 PM
@Thing94 - I REALLY hope that Josh has some behind the scenes confirmation/insight on all of this because, the move away from Loveness has been in the works since Quantumania underperformed and Alonso was fired

Tying all of that against the Majors situation represents a BIG jump in connective relevance

Wannabe Scooper/Influencers are conflating causation here and, like I said, somebody better actually have an ACTUAL ’In’ to Feige’s war room because everything on the multiverse certainly looks like a ‘Go’ from here

We literally saw the purple clouds flash/expand over Loki’s tree/loom which completely reinforces what He Who Remains said about the inevitibility of his variants’ emergence.

In addition, we just concluded the MCU’s latest, and only, cinematic release with a multiversal cliffhanger and Marvel’s tentpole, and ONLY, cinematic release over the next 15 months is driven SOLELY by the multiverse arc, yet Josh chooses to traffic in this trash conjecture 🤦‍♂️

How about we get an actual verdict on Majors before we go trying to get comfortable in the big chair, no??
Gabimaru - 11/13/2023, 9:47 PM
@Thing94 - course correction is in full force now! I hope!
CorndogBurglar - 11/14/2023, 12:30 AM
@Thing94 - They should just scrap everything and make Avengers 4 as their next movie. The opening scene should be Captain America waking up all sweaty and say, "WHEW! It was all a dream! Okay Team, let's go beat Thanos!"

And then they can remake Endgame and make it so Thanos didn't destroy the Infinity Gems, then have the Avengers beat him without any time travel shenanigans and then move on from there with a whole new approach that isn't multiverse related.

They could call it "Avengers: Endgame 4 Real Doe"
WhateverItTakes - 11/13/2023, 3:18 PM
Nomis929 - 11/13/2023, 3:19 PM
No Love for Loveness.
LSHF - 11/14/2023, 2:56 AM
@Nomis929 - So, he's now Jeff LoveLESS?

I'll show myself out now.
Nomis929 - 11/14/2023, 8:32 AM

AmazingFILMporg - 11/13/2023, 3:20 PM
Good. Marvel learning from mistakes. Keep going feige!!!!!
bobevanz - 11/13/2023, 3:41 PM
@AmazingFILMporg -
AmazingFILMporg - 11/13/2023, 3:44 PM
@bobevanz -

I don't get it😳....

bobevanz - 11/13/2023, 3:48 PM
@AmazingFILMporg - who knows! Lol
AmazingFILMporg - 11/13/2023, 3:49 PM
@bobevanz -

I get that🤣
JustAWaffle - 11/13/2023, 4:24 PM
@bobevanz -
Ryguy88 - 11/13/2023, 4:30 PM
@bobevanz - I walked into the marvels theatre while I was on my way to see paw Patrol....the meme checks out.
marvel72 - 11/13/2023, 4:53 PM
@bobevanz -

marvel72 - 11/13/2023, 5:02 PM
@bobevanz - I heard you don't have to watch any of the shows because they don't really cover any of the shows.
SauronthePower - 11/13/2023, 6:42 PM
@marvel72 - WandaVision and Ms Marvel definitely have large scale connective tissue in ‘The Marvels’
RegularPoochie - 11/13/2023, 9:11 PM
@bobevanz - LMFAO!
Vigor - 11/13/2023, 3:21 PM
WhateverItTakes - 11/13/2023, 3:22 PM
NickScryer - 11/13/2023, 3:24 PM
I say go all in and hire Chris Terrio. Let's see how bad can it get.
Se4M4NSt4ine - 11/13/2023, 3:51 PM
@NickScryer - Chris Terrio is by no means a bad writer. However, much like David Ayer - the pair of them need to stay away from fantasy driven films and stick to gritty real life story telling.
thedrudo - 11/13/2023, 3:25 PM
Wasn’t he caught getting on Reddit and spreading rumors or spoilers or something?
MosquitoFarmer - 11/13/2023, 3:25 PM
I'd rather see the Kang payoff than to ditch it by this point.
AmazingFILMporg - 11/13/2023, 3:26 PM
@MosquitoFarmer -

You can demote him and still wrap up his story.💁

Make him a henchmen 💪
HeavyMetal4Life - 11/13/2023, 3:30 PM
@MosquitoFarmer - I 100% agree. It would be a colossal mistake to destroy and move on from this storyline right now. Recast if need be, but do not replace.
RedFury - 11/13/2023, 4:29 PM
@MosquitoFarmer - agreed. Just because Quantimania was a bit lackluster, it doesn't mean we should just go and ditch Kang altogether.

Loki proved he can be a great character through all the variants when handled properly. So let's just get a good imaginative writer and director on the job, and give us a better Kang.

People can be so fickle. Just because it's not a 10/10 doesn't mean we need to go back to the drawing board. Stick to the plan, and correct course at the same time.
SauronthePower - 11/13/2023, 6:45 PM
@HeavyMetal4Life - agree

We are too far in at this point

I am still On-Record as thinking that Majors has reams of talent AND the necessary gravitas to carry the character

IF the recast becomes inevitable, I would prefer eomething that would absolutely BREAK the internet (Denzel) in order to siphon media off the negative debacle
SauronthePower - 11/13/2023, 6:46 PM
@AmazingFILMporg - to whom?
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