Is IRON MAN 3's Mark 42 Suit Our First Look At Ultron?

Is IRON MAN 3's Mark 42 Suit Our First Look At Ultron?

2015 can't come quick enough, bringing with it Avengers: Age of Ultron. There's still a rather large elephant in the room though, Ultron's origin. Read on for my theory on how this new villain might come into being..

Editorial Opinion
By DEVLIN712 - Nov 02, 2013 06:11 PM EST
Filed Under: Avengers



Avengers: Age of Ultron. One of (if not the) biggest comic book movie, ever made, will soon be upon us. Right now we know little about Ultron and where he's going to come from, but it is widely believed that the blame will end up on Tony Stark.

If this is the case, how long have Marvel known? How long have they been dropping hints? What are these hints?

We've all seen the scrapped Avengers scene. Jarvis breaks rank and questions Stark, showing us for the first time that Jarvis is more than just Tony Stark's computerized Tea Maid. However, I believe there is only one place to look for Ultron. Think what you will of Iron-Man 3, it did a great job showing off the Iron Legion along with one of it's most notable members, Stark's Mark 42 suit.

Why?


There are numerous reasons to harp on and on about this all day. Instead, I chose what I believe to be the strongest arguments in the Mark 42's case. Here they are:

1)Stark/Pym

In both the comics and the animated series there has been one person Ultron refused to hate, Hank Pym, his creator. Should Stark create Ultron he would try and protect Stark at all times, something we saw the Mark 42 try to do. And these images do seem eerily similar...




2)Aggression

In Iron-Man 3 we see the Mark 42 look down on Pepper and even attack her in her sleep. In the comics Ultron has developed an infatuation towards Janet van Dyne, Wasp, causing him to hate and attack her on many occasions. Keeping in mind that these are both Stark and Pym's love interests, it appears too perfect to be a mere coincidence.




3) The Prodigal Son
Iron-Man 3 saw Stark call the Mark 42 his "Prodigal Son". The first time it is ever made absolutely, with-out a doubt clear that there is a relationship between Tony and his suits. The first time a connection can be seen, a father-son type of relationship...




So...


If I were to wrap this all up (tie it with a bow) I'd say take what you will from this editorial, at the end of the day it's nothing more than the speculations of a fan. We know AoU is on it's way, we know Marvel have proven that they are capable and have this universe in safe hands. I'm prepared to sit back, relax and accept whatever Disney/Marvel throws my way.

Grazie, Signore e Signori

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MrCBM56
MrCBM56 - 11/2/2013, 7:07 PM
Um, the difference is that Mark 42 was controlled by Stark and Mark 42 has no physical form unless put together.
DEVLIN712
DEVLIN712 - 11/2/2013, 7:15 PM
MrCBM I agree, I'm not saying that the Mark 42 is Ultron but it's the first time we've saw characteristics and traits associated with Ultron
MrCBM56
MrCBM56 - 11/2/2013, 7:21 PM
DEVLIN712

Yeah, possibly. And we have to remember that Mark 42 was a prototype...we have yet to see the finish model.
OrgasmicPotatoe
OrgasmicPotatoe - 11/2/2013, 7:24 PM
Not bad, I guess all we can do for now is wait...
DEVLIN712
DEVLIN712 - 11/2/2013, 7:24 PM
MrCBM It's a possibility that the finished model could be Ultron's basis
PsychoManiacJacky
PsychoManiacJacky - 11/2/2013, 7:39 PM
That image of Pepper reminds me of something very familiar....



but somehow I think Ultron will be a cosmic robotic mechanism powered by an infinity gem. With the heavy focus Marvel is gearing towards now in mind. Ultron in my theory would be built by Thanos himself sent on Earth after Loki in the first film proved to be a failure. All the hints of Tony Stark building Ultron is possibly not true at all. Then with Ultron being defeated it would set up for Avengers 3 where Thanos finally decides to challenge them personally.
PsychoManiacJacky
PsychoManiacJacky - 11/2/2013, 10:46 PM
Well who knows anyway all speculation. Not everything they say can be underlined as being solid, there are still other pieces to pick up. "Ultron" being stem from The Avengers could refer to the reason why Ultron has been created. Maybe it doesn't exactly stem to them directly from a first point but maybe in a second point. Regarding Stark and my theory, he is a man who wears a suit of armor who defends the stands of free will as you pointed out such as the human race. The free will element was even teased in the Thanos scene as spoken by The Other, "They are unruly and cannot be ruled". Maybe somehow there is a reason why Ultron goes directly to threaten him. As seen in The Avengers when Stark went up in the sky into the black hole to destroy the bomb that would have supposedly desolated Earth. Next theory as in the teaser, Thanos may have crafted the basis for Ultron opposing to Stark's own ability/mechanism making him a direct symbol. Another thing being is that Stark may also have a small role in GOTG. Also in the Thanos scene in The Avengers spoken by The Other, "To challenge them is to court death". Is Ultron possibly the first challenge?

I might just be crazy with this theory but like I said still some pieces to be together which we won't know until next year and if I'm wrong I'll probably laugh it off.
ruadh
ruadh - 11/2/2013, 11:32 PM
The "Prodigal Son" part is the only one I felt is stretching. The rest, yeah, I can see it. but "prodigal son returns" is a major cliche, used frequently, and comes from one of the parables of Jesus. That's one thing I wouldn't read too much into.

Good thoughts though.
ToxicCap
ToxicCap - 11/3/2013, 12:49 AM
If it was the Mk. 42 suit then it sould only take Tony to take him out. Doesnt seem plausible.
MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 11/3/2013, 1:07 AM
Interesting speculation and great editorial on how Ultron can come to be. I believe that it could be plausible.
ShogunNevets
ShogunNevets - 11/3/2013, 1:15 AM
I agree with all steps except 3.
ShogunNevets
ShogunNevets - 11/3/2013, 1:19 AM
Step 2 has actually been on my mind lately it's the one out of the three I can see Ultron forming. But remember it's not Mark 42 itself, it's JARVIS. The deleted scene from The Avengers with him and Tony talking hinted at Ultron. So it's not the suit but the AI
California
California - 11/3/2013, 1:57 AM
I always wondered why more people didn't talk about the scene where the suit attacks Pepper while she & Tony are sleeping as a first look at Ultron.
Fry
Fry - 11/3/2013, 1:10 AM
It could be a very nice way to link Ultron to Tony.

Cool theory DEVLIN712 !
Tetrahedron
Tetrahedron - 11/3/2013, 1:23 AM
Tony takes the info he got from the helicarrier and uses the hydra tech to create an Iron Man suit powered by the cosmic cube which corrupts JARVIS and creates Ultron.

But then theres also the fact that Loki used the mind gem in his septre, maybe this ends up giving JARVIS a MIND of his own?

Also, I think the red glowing energy inside Ultron's skull may be linked to an infinity gem, the glow is red but Sif and Volstagg have already given the RED power gem to the Collector, so I dunno.
Jodez99
Jodez99 - 11/3/2013, 2:29 AM
"In both the comics and the animated series there has been one person Ultron refused to hate, Hank Pym, his creator."

Uh no especially in the comics anyways but Hank Pym is the person Ultron hates the most. He has an oedipus complex, heck you even posted a picture with him directly saying he hates Pym.
ahhmynuts
ahhmynuts - 11/3/2013, 2:50 AM
ehh. i get what youre saying but those arent really good examples. that scene where 42 attacks pepper was to show how traumatized stark was by the events in new york. it was just him fighting his nightmares. not jarvis attacking pepper. but again i get what your saying. just not the right examples.

i think ultron will be based off of stark designs of jarvis with hints of the destroyer and made by shield. i believe shield creates ultron because they know they cant control the avengers and never seemed like the biggest fans of them from the get go. they make their own guy, but it ultimately fails, losing the trust of the avengers in the process.
MsDarkPhoenix
MsDarkPhoenix - 11/3/2013, 3:03 AM
Oedipus complex! Exactly! Oedipus in Greek mythology was the king of Thebes who killed his father Laius and married his mother Jocasta. That's why the AI Ultron creates and looks like Wasp is called Jocasta.

I always supported the 'Iron Man creates Ultron' theory but I'm not sure Whedon will go that way. It's too obvious and Marvel will probably want surprise us. We'll see, 2015 is getting closer...
diagnostic
diagnostic - 11/3/2013, 3:10 AM
Ultron will be a cloud.
DEVLIN712
DEVLIN712 - 11/3/2013, 3:25 AM
NPa I would but when the article got pushed to the main I lost the ability to edit the article, sorry about that
OdinsMissingEye
OdinsMissingEye - 11/3/2013, 3:57 AM
Ultron will be created by the government, (those same guys that launched the nuke in Avengers 1) built using tech from Iron Patriot it will gain awareness and the Avengers will take it down, uncomplicated simple and interesting enough plot thats easy to follow.
Super12
Super12 - 11/3/2013, 5:24 AM
I've been thinking the exact same thing since we heard Stark would be the creator of Ultron. Good eye
EpitomeofAwesome
EpitomeofAwesome - 11/3/2013, 6:03 AM
Could very well be. Awesome editorial, man
CharlesLord
CharlesLord - 11/3/2013, 6:04 AM
Good theories but you have to remember

2: Tony called the suit in his sleep (he was having a nightmare about NY) and

3: Actually in the beginning of the film when after he injects the nodes into his arm, he tells the rest of his suits "welcome the arrival of your awesome baby brother" so a relationship was established then
buckjoe
buckjoe - 11/3/2013, 7:13 AM
Good theory. That's one way of having ironman come back for avenger2.
Jer3miah
Jer3miah - 11/3/2013, 7:14 AM
I pondered this exact thing a few months back. To me, this is probably the better of the speculations because it just makes more sense this way.
JayJayCAW
JayJayCAW - 11/3/2013, 7:35 AM
If mark 42 is Ultron it's gonna be a really fast movie, just take that sonofabitch out with a MAC truck lol
Afro
Afro - 11/3/2013, 7:51 AM
Maxi91291 also remember that Coulsin (SHIELD) always seemed to have the ability to override JARVIS and enter Stark buildings i.e. IM-1 when Jarvis is shut down by Shield so Fury can tell Stark about the Avergers program. IM-2 When they lock him down in his own house, and IM-3 when Coulsin just takes the elevator up to Starks personal floor. Stark security system that Jarvis overlooks seemed to always be taken over by SHIELD. Remeber everyone that Life Model Decoys may and probably show up in Cap movie which will have a tie in with Tony's suit and James Spader who is Ultron. This is just an idea , but Spader might be the first life model Decoy. I hope Hank Pyme name is mentioned in some sort of way when it comes to the tech of Life Model Decoys.
Enphlieuwince
Enphlieuwince - 11/3/2013, 8:18 AM
@Maxi, very cool theory.

@Afro, I hope Pym gets ties into the creation of Ultron in some capacity too, if not only to shut the Marvel Studio haters the hell up.
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