Interesting Info on TDKR****Potential Spoilers***

Interesting Info on TDKR****Potential Spoilers***

Interesting wirte up from Newsday. Read below or follow the link.

By batraider - Jul 12, 2012 03:07 PM EST
Filed Under: Batman
Source: Newsday

The Batmobile goes into long-term parking July 20 as "The Dark Knight Rises" -- the much, much anticipated follow-up to Christopher Nolan's two previous mega-grossing Caped Crusader movies -- launches its all-out assault on Gotham City, box-office records and the audience's sense of equilibrium.

Although Hollywood is never allergic to revisiting a successful franchise (see "The Amazing Spider-Man"), Nolan has said this is the last Bat trip for him. Which means saying adieu to a lot of characters who have become familiar since "Batman Begins" premiered in 2005.

"We knew after 'Batman Begins' there'd be another movie, and we knew after "The Dark Knight' there would be another movie. And we knew after this that there wouldn't be another movie," said Morgan Freeman, who has played Wayne Enterprises brain trust Lucius Fox in all three installments. And is he feeling bittersweet?

"No, actually, and I don't want to sound ungrateful for the experience, but it's the end of something -- the end of making a movie. And when they say, 'It's a wrap,' you walk away. Those of us who've been in all three are of the opinion we can't top ourselves, so let's walk away with our laurels."

"It must be a bittersweet kind of reality for the studio," quipped actor Gary Oldman whose Police Commissioner Gordon -- whom Oldman has played three times -- has a more central role in the new film. "But I think, in a way, Chris is retiring as the heavyweight champion. He'll go out with a bang, and that's the way to do it." He said he didn't know what Nolan's next act would be, but "my instinct is he'll make something much smaller."

This is big

It would hard to go much bigger. About half of the 160-minute film was shot in the IMAX format (as opposed to 28 minutes of "The Dark Knight"). The opening sequence -- involving a midair hijacking/

kidnapping -- will likely be regarded as a classic. The vehicles are cooler and do cooler things. (The Tumbler, aka Batmobile, returns, and Catwoman gets to ride a Bat-pod.) The wreckage is more extensive. And, for good measure, there's a nuclear explosion.

Gotham City, in short, is in hot water: When we last visited, Batman (Christian Bale) was being blamed for the murder of District Attorney Harvey Dent -- who, in his grief and suffering, had become the vengeful Two-Face. Now, eight years later, Batman, hobbled and downbeat, has gone into seclusion at stately Wayne Manor. Crime is on the upswing. Terrorists are on the loose. Questions are on our minds.

Why, exactly, did Batman have to take the blame? Why is Gordon keeping the big secret about Harvey Dent? Why is a terrorist named Bane wreaking havoc across Gotham City?

All these questions and more may, in fact, be answered with the arrival of "The Dark Knight Rises." But don't count on it.

That old Hollywood pragmatist Samuel Goldwyn once said, "If you want to send a message, call Western Union." One might add, "If you want to send a mixed message, call Christopher Nolan." Certainly, there are viewers who say they understand Nolan's visually arresting "Inception" (2010); there also are people who say they understand "Finnegans Wake."

A rep for the visual

With "The Dark Knight Rises" -- co-written with his brother, Jonathan -- Nolan may further his reputation as a director whose plot lines exist only to serve his visual art. Bane (Tom Hardy) and his fellow terrorists, acting like a muscle-bound Occupy Movement, attack Wall Street and its ruling 1 percenters, but their supposed anti-capitalist policies are soon exposed as a mere ploy, a means of terrorizing Gotham into subservience. Why do they want to take over Gotham City in the first place? It's not entirely clear. But when the Gotham police force starts charging down Wall Street to save the world, "The Dark Knight Rises" starts to feel like a campaign ad from a right-wing super-PAC. (Nolan, who doesn't like a lot of computer effects, filmed in downtown Manhattan during Occupy Wall Street, and the film has the sense of being filled up with real people.)

"It's certainly interesting, isn't it?" Freeman said. "Chris Nolan could very well have gotten some inspiration from some of the current stuff that was going. But it's a little dangerous speculating about a writer's intentions." Nolan has said in the past that "The Dark Knight Rises" was inspired by Dickens' "A Tale of Two Cities"; What the film suggests is that something like Occupy would lead to the murderous excesses of the French Revolution.

But excess is in the DNA of the Batman chronicles. So is moral ambiguity: Is there something dubious, we always asked, about a masked avenger taking the law into his own hands? Yes, and it's been part of the Batman story at least as far back as the Frank Miller graphic novels, which built on the Bob Kane original, but without Kane's more black-and-white take on goodness and virtue.

Nolan takes it a step further: In "The Dark Knight Rises," Hardy plays the villainous Bane behind a mask that suggests Hannibal Lecter and is said to provide a steady stream of anesthetic to numb his constant pain (inflicted when . . . no, you have to wait). As a side effect, it also makes him crazier.

But Bane believes in what he's doing. And so does Batman. Both Bane and Batman wear masks. Both their voices are distorted by their disguises. They both suffer excruciating pain (Batman has to go through major rehabilitation in "The Dark Knight Rises" before he can once again answer the Bat Signal). In some ways, you might say, they're the same guy -- which may be Nolan's mischievous last word on the whole subject.

http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/movies/the-dark-knight-rises-batman-s-last-stand-1.3834110

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DraculaX
DraculaX - 7/12/2012, 4:05 PM
Sounds like a awesome Batman movie
DraculaX
DraculaX - 7/12/2012, 4:13 PM
This movie is not gonna fail, not by the longest stretch of the imagination.
PhetVanBurt0n
PhetVanBurt0n - 7/12/2012, 4:13 PM
sounds like an EPIC Batman movie
DraculaX
DraculaX - 7/12/2012, 4:16 PM
Your goddamn right I think so.
Altair
Altair - 7/12/2012, 4:17 PM
Did they say there was gonna be a nuke? Ermergerd winning.
Altair
Altair - 7/12/2012, 4:19 PM
Nuclear explosion, not nuke, but still just as epic. I wonder how it plays into the story. Isn't Bane's device a nuclear reactor, created(possibly suspiciously) under Tate and her wanting clean energy. Maybe Tate just gave Bane the power to set a nuclear explosion off on Gotham. That might just turn it into ashes, huh?
Altair
Altair - 7/12/2012, 4:25 PM
@Intruder I didn't say I liked it. Guys got balls though, gotta give him that.
RidiculousFanBoyDemands
RidiculousFanBoyDemands - 7/12/2012, 4:30 PM
Intruder is grasping at dem straws for dear life.
RidiculousFanBoyDemands
RidiculousFanBoyDemands - 7/12/2012, 4:31 PM
The only addiction Chris Nolan has is for milkshakes. Haters milkshakes.

RidiculousFanBoyDemands
RidiculousFanBoyDemands - 7/12/2012, 4:35 PM
A nuclear explosion is not the same as a nuclear bomb being detonated. Come on Intruder you know that. But this has me more stoked, it looks like Bane actually wins and gets what he wants. Something I thought would have made the Avengers better. Loki does rule earth, and completely annihilates parts of NYC and the world. I would have loved 20 minutes of so of the film dedicated to Loki being the tyrant ruler of earth with his alien army. Still not disappointed with what we got, but that would have been my preference.
LoudNoises
LoudNoises - 7/12/2012, 4:42 PM
@Intruder

If this movie fails I will so blame you. Lol :p
RidiculousFanBoyDemands
RidiculousFanBoyDemands - 7/12/2012, 4:47 PM
Intruder is trolling hard tonight. Yet it seems people are ignoring him because they know this movie is going to be amazing. It's like they just, don't, care. It's already been confirmed this movie is amazing, so anything a hater has to say is just nonsense at this point. No offense dude, but it's the truth.
RidiculousFanBoyDemands
RidiculousFanBoyDemands - 7/12/2012, 4:47 PM
Just suck it up and go see it in IMAX.
RidiculousFanBoyDemands
RidiculousFanBoyDemands - 7/12/2012, 4:53 PM
Of course you are Intruder, I'm coming over for the Oscars. Won't it be something to hear a comic book movie has been nominated for best picture. Who else would I want to share that seminal moment in comic book movie history with but you.
RidiculousFanBoyDemands
RidiculousFanBoyDemands - 7/12/2012, 4:54 PM
We're not arguing with you Intruder, if anything it's more condescension now. We know the movie is good. I think most people feel sad for you because you spent the better part of a year bringing this movie down, and it's turning out to be a masterpiece with serious Oscar considerations.

You have gotten so bad that you have to stretch a Michael Bay comparison.
RidiculousFanBoyDemands
RidiculousFanBoyDemands - 7/12/2012, 4:56 PM
I love how you are using this comment section to have your little mental breakdown though. I understand it's hard for you to accept this movie is amazing, but sometimes you have to suck it up and give credit where credit is due. And since you are not going to see it, I guess you are going to have to believe word of mouth. Which calls it a masterpiece.
RidiculousFanBoyDemands
RidiculousFanBoyDemands - 7/12/2012, 5:00 PM
I thought it was funnier when when Grif did it. Sorry man. I will give you credit though dude, you are one persistent son of a bitch.
DraculaX
DraculaX - 7/12/2012, 5:01 PM
Eh it will do well even without Intruder.
DukeAcureds
DukeAcureds - 7/12/2012, 5:05 PM
Sounds like a movie.
Nolan kept calling this his Gotham trilogy, so I've long assumed that little of Gotham would be left standing at the end.
The ambiguity this article talks about is oneof the things I did like about The Dark Knight. That and Heath Ledger. I like how the Joker can be seen as the good guy despite his morality. He is an anarchist and Batman is Big Brother. I'd say it's definitely a mixed message, though. I'd be ready to say that Nolan was preaching right-wing viewpoints if not for Lucius Fox's reaction to the cell-phone spying thing.
graveyardtramp
graveyardtramp - 7/12/2012, 5:07 PM
The 'nuclear explosion' could just be the football scene - we know from the behind-the-scenes photos that Bane drags the nuclear device onto the field with him after the explosion, so maybe it is just a little demonstration of its potential power?

And sorry Intruder but your desperation is REALLY starting to show...
RidiculousFanBoyDemands
RidiculousFanBoyDemands - 7/12/2012, 5:07 PM
It never is Intruder, I don't care if you go off on me. That's what makes this site fun, heat of the moment arguments with someone that can dish it as well as take it.

Although we were both wrong about TAS. I thought that movie was going to be groundbreaking. Instead, meh. But I refuse to talk about that movie anymore. People are so touchy about it.
graveyardtramp
graveyardtramp - 7/12/2012, 5:16 PM
@ Intruder, well I'm just going on the fact that you are having a go at people who are saying TDKR is great when they haven't even seen it, yet you have no such reservation about claiming the movie is a piece of sh*t when you have not seen it either. It also seems like a real stretch to try and claim Nolan is trying to compete with The Avengers by involving the whole of Gotham - I'm pretty sure TDKR was written and well under way in production before The Avengers came out.
DraculaX
DraculaX - 7/12/2012, 5:19 PM
Ok, but when TDKR is successful, you have my permission. to cry
R888
R888 - 7/12/2012, 5:34 PM
Sounds like an awesome badass amazingly great batman film
RidiculousFanBoyDemands
RidiculousFanBoyDemands - 7/12/2012, 5:34 PM
It will break a billion. Be nominated for many awards, all the while Intruder will be living in a reality where everyone hates the movie. It is what it is.
DukeAcureds
DukeAcureds - 7/12/2012, 5:35 PM
I think about 51% of Nolanites are gonna hate this film, same for the Batman fans and about 34% of haters are gonna concsider it one of their favorite films. Personally, I think I'll belong to all but the former.
DTor91
DTor91 - 7/12/2012, 5:41 PM
Intruder clearly shows his logic by letting a write up (which is not even a review, just an informative article) affect his judgment on something he has yet to see but will anyway (and will likely bash the movie still whether he liked it or not), and then throwing in The Avengers/ The Dark Knight Rises trump card because everyone else does. Congratulations on your sheep diploma.
DukeAcureds
DukeAcureds - 7/12/2012, 5:53 PM
Yo're a sheep, alright, Intruder. A black sheep. I'm sure you'd like TDKR if it deserved it. Tme will tell.
DukeAcureds
DukeAcureds - 7/12/2012, 6:06 PM
I'm a wolf in women's clothing. Wait. I mean... nevermind.
graveyardtramp
graveyardtramp - 7/12/2012, 7:21 PM
Not sure if this article has already been posted/mentioned here but it does have some glowing words on the film:

"It has the weight and scope - and then some - of 2008's The Dark Knight, the Batman Begins sequel whose snub in the best picture field helped prod the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences to expand the category to more than five nominees.

The film is gorgeous, sharply written, briskly paced despite an epic running time approaching three hours. The characters have depth and pathos, and the drama feels far richer than the usual hero-saving-the-world saga. The action reflects our own hard times as a masked terrorist lays siege to the masses in a sort of perverse Occupy Gotham City movement that pits the comic-book world's 99 percenters against the rich and rapacious."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/movies/batman-already-an-oscar-favourite/story-e6frf9h6-1226424206419

UrbanKnight
UrbanKnight - 7/12/2012, 8:35 PM
Lol Then The Avengers came out and you switched sides. huh trudy?
YakeTheSnake
YakeTheSnake - 7/12/2012, 10:54 PM
Am I the only one bothered that @batraider just copy-&-pasted this article from Newsday.com?
LoganMjolnir
LoganMjolnir - 7/13/2012, 1:13 PM
what a fail of a man is @intruder... isn't he?

Wasting his boring a sad time in a movie who he thinks is a piece of shit.

The Avengers was epic, but in my opinion there are a couple of movies better, like Watchmen, Batman Begins, TDK, X-Men: First Class... the only thing that The Avengers makes me enjoy is watching Thor, Hulk, Iron Man, Captain America and Hawkeye together.

Batman Begins was great, TDK was incredible... and The Dark Knight Rises is going to be better than those.
maxxgone
maxxgone - 7/13/2012, 6:05 PM
@intruder i am waaaaaay late to the talkback, but when and where do we get to call you out for being wrong about this film?

and mostly i am curious for someone who preaches openmindedness and giving films their fair chance: how the hell can you or any of us say what is or isn't the case, when nobody outside of the cast & crew has any idea what the film is about?

it doesn't suprise me that a film inspired by literature and not comics wouldn't be your cup of tea. to each their own.
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