JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX Ending Explained: Breaking Down That Controversial, Shocking Conclusion - SPOILERS

JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX Ending Explained: Breaking Down That Controversial, Shocking Conclusion - SPOILERS

Joker: Folie à Deux is now playing in theaters and we're taking a deep dive into the sequel's shocking, controversial ending and explaining what it means for Arthur Fleck and this franchise's future...

By JoshWilding - Oct 03, 2024 12:10 PM EST
Filed Under: Joker

Joker: Folie à Deux arrives in theaters later today and the ending...well, it's one bound to generate a lot of debate and controversy among comic book fans. 

Throughout the course of the Joker sequel, Lady Gaga's Lee pushes Arthur Fleck (Joaquin Phoenix) to become his "true" self, Joker. However, after a harrowing trial which sees the psychopath forced to reckon with his past actions, Arthur - dressed as Joker - reveals that the persona was just a fantasy and says he was the one who murdered those people. 

Lee is in equal parts heartbroken and horrified by this revelation and walks out of the courtroom along with Joker's many other supporters. When a verdict is later reached, a bomb goes off and Arthur is taken to freedom by two of his most devoted fanatics. 

He runs from them shortly after and reunites with Lee. He begs her to join him and run away; instead, she rejects him and what they had as a "fantasy" so, shattered, Arthur hands himself in. 

In the closing moments of Joker: Folie à Deux, a young inmate, who appears to be another disappointed "fan," approaches Arthur, tells a joke, and declares "You get what you f***ing deserve" before repeatedly stabbing him. 

Laughing maniacally, he carves a smile across his face similar to Heath Ledger's Joker and the movie ends with Arthur's death. 

The entirety of this sequel is clearly meant as a commentary on the fans who idolise Joker and who filmmaker Todd Phillips rallied against when the first movie was accused of being a rallying call for incels. The problem there, of course, is that the number of people who view Arthur as a "hero" is a tiny minority, and Joker: Folie à Deux's message rings hollow, as a result.

As for Ricky, while it's not overtly stated, it seems the idea is that he's now the new Joker after Arthur's actions inspired other similarly damaged men to follow in his footsteps.

Joker: Folie À Deux finds Arthur Fleck institutionalized at Arkham awaiting trial for his crimes as Joker. While struggling with his dual identity, Arthur not only stumbles upon true love, but also finds the music that's always been inside him.

The sequel stars Joaquin Phoenix once again in his Oscar-winning dual role as Arthur Fleck/Joker, opposite Oscar-winner Lady Gaga (A Star Is Born). The movie also features Oscar nominees Brendan Gleeson (The Banshees of Inisherin) and Catherine Keener (Get Out), alongside Zazie Beetz, reprising her role from Joker.

Joker: Folie À Deux arrives in theaters on October 4.

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itzayaboy
itzayaboy - 10/3/2024, 12:25 PM
So incredibly Avi Arad level stupid to make this movie.
TheVandalore
TheVandalore - 10/3/2024, 5:57 PM
@itzayaboy - I just finished watching it.

This film needs to be studied for how bad it is.

How do you [frick] up a sequel this badly?

How do you [frick] up a musical this badly??

You genuinely don't need to watch this movie for any reason. It's just bad.

This movie honestly gives Catwoman and Superman 4 competition for worst comic book adaptation put to film. What the actual [frick] was Todd thinking with this? Horrible film on basically every level. Just a big fat NO.
TehJoker
TehJoker - 10/3/2024, 6:54 PM
@TheVandalore - Wrong. Its a jokerlicious movie.
Forthas
Forthas - 10/3/2024, 12:31 PM
I would have to see the film but I could see a narrative where that could work. The only problem is that it feels revisionist so it does not land well.

This is why planning and understanding the direction you want to end up on is so important.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 10/3/2024, 2:47 PM
@Forthas - reviosnism is awesome ...it took several ugly confederate statues from my town
Forthas
Forthas - 10/3/2024, 3:45 PM
@Malatrova15 -

"it took several ugly confederate statues from my town"

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Good to hear what they did to the likeness of those piece of sh*t traitors! One more to go!

MisterDoctor217
MisterDoctor217 - 10/3/2024, 12:31 PM
I had read the ending before but wait…


Wasn’t the whole crutch of the first movie to show Arthur was mentally ill? And that one bad day made him break.
Like that’s one of the contributing factors in Joaquin winning the Oscar. He was portraying a mentally ill man (they just pasted the name Joker over it of course to sell tickets) so why are they backtracking on that all do the sudden ?

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