Man Of Steel/Dark Knight Trilogy/Avengers All Great, but Not Fair to Compare

Man Of Steel/Dark Knight Trilogy/Avengers All Great, but Not Fair to Compare

Why do we have fanboy fights?

Editorial Opinion
By batraider - Jun 14, 2013 08:06 AM EST
Filed Under: Batman
Source: MOS Dark Knight Trilogy/Avengers All Great but Not Fair to Compare

Disclaimer – I am not a fanboy for Marvel or DC. They both have their good and bad points. I am just someone who is stoked that we are getting some great adaptations of both properties.

I sat last year through the Dark Knight Marathon jaw dropping through the whole thing. Some great cinema love or hate the way Nolan changed things. If there was no source material aside from the glaring plot holes (am I the only one that thinks a Director’s Cut is absolutely necessary for TDKR?) it was a fine movie.

I also sat last year with my heart beating out of my chest as I watched Capt. America, Iron Man, Hulk Thor and Loki(let’s face it they were the only real fleshed out characters in that movie, everyone else was eye candy or a plot pawn) battle it out on the big screen. It never felt like they were in any real danger, but I hung on every frame. It has become the gold standard by which all CBMs will be measured for years to come…Until Avengers 2.

And again I sat this morning (0001) as I finally saw a Superman for the 21 century. Reviews have been all over the map for this movie. Why? Some of it is Nolan’s fault. Mainstream critics heard his name attached and thought that they were going to get a realist view to a comic movie again. How can you be a realist when you have an alien with God-like powers on earth? Not going to happen. Also, it is being compared to the gold standard; but is the gold standard really that great?

Hold on fanboys…do not crucify me yet, hear me out.

It has been my belief that Avengers is not graded as a standalone movie, but graded for the amazing undertaking that Phase 1 was. Every theory needs data to support it. I offer to you my wife (not in that way Tea Bag or Gusto). She is not a fangirl, she hasn’t even seen Star Wars. I dragged her kicking and screaming to Capt America. She LOVED it. She loved the nostalgia of a WW2 period piece. She liked the story, not the love story part as she is not a “chick flick” girl, but the overall aspect of the plot.

I also drugged her and took her to Avengers (I meant to say dragged her…I really did). She didn’t get it. “Why does that guy turn green and bash the crap out of things? Wait so this chick had no a single power yet she is holding her own with the God of Thunder? Who is this Robin Hood guy?” She saw one movie in Phase One and just didn’t get why this was all going down. The Thanos conversation should have made it on YouTube, it was that cringe worthy. She thought it was just ok. We went back and forth on the movie’s merit and then it hit me. We are not grading the Avengers on the movie alone. We are grading it on the scale and incredible ambition that 5 years of movies set up.

For that it gets a solid A+. No doubt in my mind. Hoverer, the movie itself was good…not great…but good. It was amazing to see the team kicking ass all together on one screen. It had its share of plot holes and script problems. We let that pass though because of what this move meant to all of us and it was just damn fun.

Now we get to Man Of Steel. It is not fair to compare it to the entire set up and load blowing that Phase One was. Pretend you haven’t seen any of the Dark Knight Trilogy or Phase One.

Hold this move to the same standard you would hold any standalone movie. Not one in a set of sequels or a 5 year plan. Don’t compare it to other CBMs. See it like I did. A 31 year old kid sitting in Oxnard Ca reacquainting myself with an old friend that has been gone for so long. With that in mind I was BLOWN AWAY! Its not perfect but I left that movie speechless. Just fun from start to finish. It is what Superman was supposed to be. Honestly it is how I would have done it.
If we take that approach to more of these upcoming CBMs it may keep the fanboy fighting down. Be a kid again! If you are a kid you are so damn lucky to start your CBM experience at the time you are. If you are just getting in to CBMs DO NOT RENT DAREDEVIL OR GREEN LANTERN, but enjoy what you are getting your minds on.

Either way we are all lucky to be living in the CBM world we are living now.

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kinghulk
kinghulk - 6/14/2013, 9:11 AM
i dont think anyone would deny the plot holes in the avengers(i think the film companies should release the whole (before scences get emoved cos films getting long thing i dont care if it 3 hours long as long as it's good). i have a bunch of friends that only saw the 1st iron man and they followed the storyline great the loved it and now they have seen and love all of phase 1.
RLYHYPERGUY
RLYHYPERGUY - 6/14/2013, 11:34 AM
I agree with everything in this article. The best mindset to have when watching a movie is to clear your mind, sit back, and enjoy. If you don't enjoy the movie in that mindset, then you have a bad movie. Simple as that.

It really isn't fair to over-complicate things. I know that I probably would have enjoyed The Amazing Spider-Man much more if I hadn't been so attached to the Raimi trilogy. I should have put those movies aside (even though they're pretty much my entire childhood) just for the sake of this one movie. I probably would have enjoyed it more.
batraider
batraider - 6/14/2013, 11:46 AM
I was going to get into Spider-Man too but it seemed a little long already. Thanks though!
NBAfanaddict
NBAfanaddict - 6/14/2013, 11:50 AM
Good write-up. Agree on the final point: We are in the golden age of CBMs!

RLYHYPERGUY: I felt the exact same way with Amazing Spider-Man. I was so attached to my childhood Spidey films, I didn't really see TASM with an open mind. I'm sure if i re-watched it, I'd enjoy in more.
Highflyer
Highflyer - 6/14/2013, 1:03 PM
I personally didn't think the avengers was the best comic book movie ever but I liked it. I agree that isn't fair to compare films just like it isn't fair to compare the performances of various actors when it comes to portraying comic book characters. good article!
TheManFromMars
TheManFromMars - 6/14/2013, 1:38 PM
"Fighting is fun" - The Hulk
lucio7lopez
lucio7lopez - 6/14/2013, 4:40 PM
This is the secret: Open your minds. I simply falling in love for Man of Steel. FRICKING AWESOME!!!
kenjim152
kenjim152 - 6/15/2013, 8:12 AM
I have seen MOS twice, and i kinda Understand where all bad reviews come from, but even though ur point is that we cannot compare the avengers to MOS, I truely believe MOS has changued the rules of the game as BB did. It may not have the best story and that is y all critics are complaining, but its SFX which are not the beat in the world(but they are better than the ones in the avengers) show us how a real fight between superhéroes should be depicted. For example my first secuence in the avengers is when Thor hits the Hulk with his all mighty Mjonir and what happened? They broke an aircraft!!!! Lets take the increduble Hulk, its final fight is on a roof top having the Hulk and the abomination fight each other and the building never colapses???? MOS did something that comic books have been doing for a while now and that is showing the consecuences of heroes actions in the real world and that is been very well depicted since MARVELS and KINGDOM COME, and to be honest the chitauri invation in the avengers now looks like : really? That is ur army? After MOS super hero SFX have to be more consecuently, you may like not like DC comics movies, but for sure Nolan changued the rules on the way the stories have to be told and now Snyder changued te way stories have to be depicted either you like it or not DC after BB is trying to make more memorable movies and they have failed when they tried to copy Marvel's style (green lantern).
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