TDKR Joker Rumor Debunked, WB Looking At Batman VS Superman Again?

TDKR Joker Rumor Debunked, WB Looking At Batman VS Superman Again?

Apparently there is no truth to the rumor that Heath Ledger's Joker will appear in TDKR. Also, according to Moviehole, WB are thinking of resurrecting the idea for a Batman/Superman face off movie..

By MarkCassidy - Dec 01, 2010 01:12 AM EST
Filed Under: Batman
Source: Moviehole

The net was abuzz yesterday with rumors that Chris Nolan would be using unused footage and CGI to bring Heath Ledger's Joker back for a cameo in The Dark Knight Rises. Well, it looks like we can add it to the list of wishful thinking..

From Moviehole..

“It’s just not real”, says a contact at Warner Bros in relation to a news item suggesting that, thanks to CGI and some unused footage from the previous flick, Ledger will reprise his ‘Joker’ role for “Dark Knight Rises” Firstly, yes, the original plan was to have The Joker play a small part in the third “Batman” movie. He would’ve been in a prison, and much like Clarice Starling and Hannibal Lecter, would’ve played an unlikely aide to his arch-nemesis Batman, who’d be on a mission to to stop… Two Face.




Obviously that all changed. But I think its fair to say that with Nolan reiterating that the script isn't finalized, and that the cast don't even know the story yet, any and all rumors pertaining to this movie are just that. Although with the sheer volume of different scenarios and characters being thrown about the net I wouldn't be surprised if someone has guessed at something correctly! Anyway, Moviehole go on to say..

So is that the end of the “Batman” series? Of course not! Warner Bros are already thinking of untying “Batman Vs. Superman” from the development hell knot – though, I’m guessing, Bale won’t be involved – and they’ll likely also try and continue Nolan’s series of films – albeit with a new actor and new director.


I'm not sure if that is further speculation or if they have some solid info on this, but they sound fairly sure that WB are at least considering the idea. If they are, I wouldn't expect it anytime soon however.


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BuckyCap
BuckyCap - 12/1/2010, 2:41 AM
cool
xandapanda
xandapanda - 12/1/2010, 2:54 AM
why does it always have to be VS why cant they team up like bros and kick ass together
ironmanfan
ironmanfan - 12/1/2010, 3:13 AM
well not a nolan batman cause no nolan no bale no nolan no nolan batman need a reeboot if possible but i dont like it at all
i love nolan and hed say no to another cape but eventually robin happens in nolan-verse but not in his movies hell be the only other cape no superman
breakUbatman
breakUbatman - 12/1/2010, 3:22 AM
"the original plan was to have The Joker play a small part in the third “Batman” movie. He would’ve been in a prison, and much like Clarice Starling and Hannibal Lecter, would’ve played an unlikely aide to his arch-nemesis Batman, who’d be on a mission to to stop… Two Face."

That would have been awesome though I don't see why Mr. J would try and stop his "cration", maybe two-face was going to cause greater chaos than him.
BobGarlen
BobGarlen - 12/1/2010, 4:00 AM
If only Heath(may he rest in peace) was alive

@breakUbatman it's more about respecting the Batman, this would've been cool to see, a batman styled Red Dragon.
VigilantRebel87
VigilantRebel87 - 12/1/2010, 4:01 AM
Whoa wait a minute now I may be interpreting this the wrong way but it says the batman would be on a mission to stop TWO-FACE?!!! So am I to believe that he actually wasnt dead in TDK?!!!
ThunderCougarFalconBird
ThunderCougarFalconBird - 12/1/2010, 4:10 AM
If Supes and Bats share a movie it should be done like Superman: The Animated Series. Have them on the same side but banging heads all the time before they learn that they are two sides of the same coin and work together.

If it's a Batman "vs" Superman movie it will be the shortest in history and will leave Batman fans crying as they finally realise Batman CAN NOT win a fight with Superman!
Angelus
Angelus - 12/1/2010, 4:19 AM
Joker shouldnt be featured in the 3. Ra's didnt get to be featured in the 2. Just keep it simple and introduce a new villain. I dont wanna see Ledger appear again, not because his role is sacred or anything but I want a new character, especially Black Mask.

BMP!
AlexDeLarge87
AlexDeLarge87 - 12/1/2010, 4:32 AM
Angelus@ Two different things man... Ra´s died!... Joker didnt!:)
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 12/1/2010, 4:34 AM
BATMAN dose not need a REBOOT WTF!?

Batman's bigger than NOLAN,and has always been in the DC UNIVERSE no matter ewhat anyone says!

Sad news on JOKER, tho a 30 second cameo's gonna happen, the buzz wont be ignored by WB, be it HEATH, CRISPIN etc!

Bring on SUPES!



We need a team-up before the JLA MOVIE!

AlexDeLarge87
AlexDeLarge87 - 12/1/2010, 4:40 AM
Robert Garlen@ Got that right!;(... This movie would be great if The Joker would be in jail and playing games with Bats, who tries to get closer to Two-Face!
Then in the middle of the movie he could have escaped again!:D... That would have been fun!!
AlexDeLarge87
AlexDeLarge87 - 12/1/2010, 4:43 AM
LEEE777@ They should just begin the new bat series from the some random time of his life! And this time it should be a more graphic version like Watchmen style!
Protonite
Protonite - 12/1/2010, 5:03 AM
I think, since Supes movie comes out later in 2012, that a post-credits cameo from Batman(Bale or otherwise) would be a nice nod to the fans. Since TDKR would be the "Final Chapter" for Nolan, I think it'll be possible.
marvel72
marvel72 - 12/1/2010, 5:19 AM
of course they are,it'll never happen.

as "cool" as this sounds,they should be trying to get their other characters on the big screen.

the only batman film that would intrest me right now is zack snyder doing "frank millers dark knight returns".

give the character a rest & try something new.
spiderneil
spiderneil - 12/1/2010, 5:42 AM
if there is a batman/superman movie I don't know if I'd rather see;

a) a batman/ superman team up (example: public enemies)

b) a batman v superman smack down (example: TDKReturns)
rolanddeschain
rolanddeschain - 12/1/2010, 5:54 AM
It sucks that this was only a rumor, wouldn've been interesting, although I don't see the whole joker as hannibal helping batman thing working. Joker made it a point to tell batman that he had no rhyme or reason to what he does, he's just basically anarchy in human form, why would he help analyze another villian to help batman? I do think it's time to end the whole 'origin' re-enactment, now that Nolan and Burton have pretty much covered that. Everyone knows the Batman origin, let's continue from a point where he's already a master of what he does, and fight some of the more outrageous bad guys from the comics, and pair him up with, say Green Arrow, or Supes. Either do the Batman/Superman movie, or do a stand alone arc, like 'Hush'.
Duhdaduh
Duhdaduh - 12/1/2010, 5:55 AM
bullshit, i dont believe this source. so the whole ending of the tdk was changed after heath died? it appears that way, if two face was supposed to live to see the third film. i dont buy it, tdk ended too perfectly for me to consider that.

also, i say this bc i hope the source is wrong. I so want a tribute/cameo of the joker in the next movie!
blueorangeny
blueorangeny - 12/1/2010, 6:18 AM
You guys have a pussy fit with every [frick]ing article. It just says they're thinking of bringing the VS flick. Plus we don't know how true this is.

I've said it in the previous article [frick] the so called realism and Nolan verse. That's easily changed and what makes that changes is $$$$$$. Again how real can it be that a man falling from a 50 story building in TDK, grabs a woman in midair and they both land on a car without a scratch. If that's considered real I wonder what would be fantasy.

Lastly, Nolan only said it's the end of this chapter. He didn't say I'm done with Batman. It's left in the open to assume that he can continue with a new trilogy, producing a JLA or combining Supes/Bats in a WF's film. So until we have straight answers to questions rather then political correct responses everyone here chill out. Take it for what it is.
BetaRayB
BetaRayB - 12/1/2010, 6:22 AM
Just show a scene of Batman in Arkham and have the Joker laughing maniacally in the background and maybe a shadow on a wall. An homage and tribute, nothing more.

And Batman vs. Superman is the stupidest idea for a live action movie I've ever heard of. Superman could burn a hole through him with his laser eyes FROM SPACE! Or punch him ONCE and pulverize every single bone in his body. Or blow him across town with a single puff. F*cking ridiculous. My willing suspension of disbelief screams in defiance!
superdog
superdog - 12/1/2010, 6:26 AM
yeah heath died after the movie was already finished. they didnt go back and change the ending to have two-face die when he was originally supposed to live. that was never reported at the time and certainly would have been. therefore im not buying this source when it comes to the plot of the third film.
comicb00kguy
comicb00kguy - 12/1/2010, 6:27 AM
Surprise surprise! I knew it was just a matter of time until we saw a retraction of this rumor.

Besides, this is a new movie. Let's see a new villain or two. A Joker cameo may have been interesting had Ledger lived to film it. It didn't happen, so let's move on.

As for a Batman/Superman movie, I'd much rather see them as allies. Give that there would be some friction at first between them, given their different approaches to crimefighting, which would give us some interesting drama before they put aside their differences to fight a common foe that neither can defeat alone.
TREE24K
TREE24K - 12/1/2010, 6:34 AM
I've got a great question. How would Joker in jail even work? Since his appearance is all make-up. Its not like they would give a guy like him in jail, his own makeup would they? I would imagine he would be all un-madeup and who wants to see that?
SHHH
SHHH - 12/1/2010, 6:48 AM
Why Didn't they release the scene's on the Blu_Ray then???
marvel72
marvel72 - 12/1/2010, 7:04 AM
@ shhh

they will probably release another version of "the dark knight" with deleted scenes before "the dark knight rises" comes out.

the money grabbing bastards.
JR
JR - 12/1/2010, 7:07 AM
"the money grabbing bastards"

Ditto!
jjmeylar
jjmeylar - 12/1/2010, 7:11 AM
What's that they say? They planned n having Two-Face back originally? Who was hoping for Two-Face? ME! I know that it's unlikely that we'll STILL have him back, but even so. OOOO IN YO FACE, BITCHES!!!!!!
AlReg
AlReg - 12/1/2010, 7:11 AM
Do not buy either story.

UltimaRex
UltimaRex - 12/1/2010, 7:14 AM
Armie Hammer for Superman.

Joseph Gordon-Levitt for Batman.

Man of Steel

World's Finest

Batman 4
SHHH
SHHH - 12/1/2010, 7:16 AM
@Deadpool: I will be all over that....
BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 12/1/2010, 7:16 AM
Batman vs Superman is stupid. A Batman and Superman team-up where they're constantly butting heads makes much more sense.
Shaman
Shaman - 12/1/2010, 7:34 AM
BornToRon- Could not have said it better myself!!! AMEN!!!

frogsplash45- THAT... was EPIC!!!
TDKR11
TDKR11 - 12/1/2010, 7:38 AM
damnnn I was really hoping for a Joker/Heath Ledger cameo even if it was gonna be in some CGI form from un edited or deleted scenes from TDK. I don't believe WB will continue the Batman Nolanverse, after Christopher Nolan and his team are done with TDKR. I think their better off telling just stand alone Batman stories in film after Nolan trilogy of Batfilms.

I dont like the fact WB still wants to do a Superman/Batman live action film when their better off having stand alone films. The Superman movie franchise is starting from ground up again for the first time in 30 plus years.
mercbox1
mercbox1 - 12/1/2010, 7:56 AM
Joker needs to be in this movie!!!! If nothing else have bats in arkham for some reason and when he walks by a cell you hear heath's laugh and there is some dude sitting in a chair looking the other way. no interaction needed just something to make the fans giddy with joy...
steelrocks
steelrocks - 12/1/2010, 8:21 AM

ahahahahahah I knew it!! I knew it

I said it over and over again, when people started speculating with a while back.

People would bash the notion of a team up.... Bitches!!! It will happen!!

:)

Now that just made my day
jaysin420
jaysin420 - 12/1/2010, 9:09 AM
I know it won't happen but I wish they would stop recasting these parts.

Just bring back the real Batman- Michael Keaton for this and have him go against Routh...or Welling...or even Dean Cain.
SuperSpiderMan5778
SuperSpiderMan5778 - 12/1/2010, 9:30 AM
jesus why doesn't hollywood give fans what they want. if we want more joker give us more joker. and its only a cameo for christ sakes. i hope TDKR doesn't go thru the curse of 2nd sequel BOMB!!! oh yeah and JGL for the JOKER!!!!
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