5 Reasons Robert Pattinson's THE BATMAN Should Be The DCU's Caped Crusader

5 Reasons Robert Pattinson's THE BATMAN Should Be The DCU's Caped Crusader

It was recently reported that Warner Bros. Discovery is eager for more Batman and considering making Robert Pattinson's Bruce Wayne the DCU's Dark Knight. Here's why we think that's actually a great idea.

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By JoshWilding - Oct 09, 2024 12:10 PM EST
Filed Under: The Batman

We recently learned that Warner Bros. Discovery is supposedly mulling over the possibility of bringing Robert Pattinson's Batman into the DCU. After the success of The Batman and The Penguin, we're not surprised, though getting everyone on board with the idea is another matter.

DC Studios' James Gunn and filmmaker Matt Reeves are already working together, and the latter's influence on Batman's corner of the DC Universe appears to be growing bigger all the time.

In this feature, we're diving into why "Battinson" joining the DCU would be what's best for The Batman franchise and Gunn's reboot plans. Nothing is confirmed at this stage, but for us, the sooner Pattinson shares the screen with David Corenswet's Superman, the better...mostly.

You can read through this feature by clicking on "Next"/"View List" buttons below. 
 

5. It's An Easy Retcon

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The Flash went to great lengths to replace Ben Affleck as Batman, utilising the Multiverse and time travel to replace him first with Michael Keaton and then, uh, George Clooney for some reason. 

Despite being a reboot, the DCU is picking and choosing actors and characters from the past, including John Cena's Peacemaker and Viola Davis' Amanda Waller. As a result, it won't be remotely difficult to make it so that Pattinson's Batman is this new shared world's Dark Knight.

There was nothing in The Batman to contradict what Gunn is planning. Retroactively making a critical and commercial hit like this the first DCU movie would get this franchise off to the right start alongside next summer's Superman.
 

4. Does Anyone Want A Batman Movie From Andy Muschietti?

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The Flash is a bad movie. Horrible VFX, a terrible, tasteless series of cameos, and a mess of a story (which fails the Flashpoint comics on every level) are just the rotten icing on top of a terrible-tasting cake. 

Filmmaker Andy Muschietti showed a few inventive moments and handled Keaton's return as Batman well, but there's no way he should now be handed a project like The Brave and the Bold. Why not give Josh Trank a crack at Avengers: Doomsday or S.J. Clarkson a shot at Spider-Man 4?

This has "disaster" written all over it and Muschietti won't have nostalgia to so heavily rely on with a new Batman. He's just not the right fit and Gunn can't risk dropping the ball on a character this important with a mediocre filmmaker. 
 

3. It's Confusing For Regular Moviegoers

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While moviegoers are smarter than most studios seem to think, it's still confusing to have two different versions of Batman on screen at the same time. Sure, we all know what "Elseworlds" means, but does your dad? How about your sister or grandparents? 

Releasing The Batman - Part II and then following it up two years later with The Brave and the Bold about a different Caped Crusader who is raising his son as Robin runs the risk of causing any number of headaches. 

Critics and fans alike will also compare the two franchises, and essentially having them compete feels like a recipe for disaster. We just can't see how the DCU would be able to make its Batman that different to the one played by Pattinson. 
 

2. The Batman Is Easily The Best DCEU-Era Movie

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The DC Extended Universe wasn't as bad as some would lead you to believe, but let's face it, that era of storytelling didn't exactly deliver a long list of beloved movies. Wonder Woman is likely to be the only one remembered as a true "classic" when all is said and done. 

Looking outside the DCEU, we have Joker, but that divided opinions (and has been somewhat tainted by Joker: Folie à Deux). Ultimately, The Batman remains easily the best movie released before the DCU relaunch.

With that in mind, why wouldn't DC Studios put the spotlight on Matt Reeves' Bat-Verse? Not only does the franchise have a lot of goodwill, The Penguin has been a hit with fans and critics, and Gunn and Peter Safran's involvement with the series has been widely publicised.
 

1. What It Means For The DCU

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Look, if we get our way and The Batman is incorporated into the DCU, there are going to be some big changes. Gunn will likely have to scrap plans to bring Damian Wayne into the fold and hold off on introducing the Bat-Family...which may upset some fans. 

Reeves will also need to be open to incorporating a wider universe into his stories but can still keep this franchise relatively standalone. Superman doesn't need to frequently drop in and Gotham can be a city which is patrolled by just one lone vigilante. 

As for Pattinson, he'll have to be convinced to make at least the odd appearance in other projects. However, Batman doesn't have to be a member of the Justice League and can be used very sparingly, treated as more of an urban myth than a publicly known "superhero."
 

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JFerguson
JFerguson - 10/9/2024, 12:21 PM
Reeves is not crazy about it, Zaslav is too crazy about it. There’s no middle ground
McMurdo
McMurdo - 10/9/2024, 1:16 PM
@JFerguson - 5 reasons why he shouldn't be the DCU Batman:

1. Bruce is the actual mask of the Batman, and Bruce in Reeves' film is still in his Nirvana phase. We need the strategic Batman who utilizes Bruce Wayne, his contacts and connections, his charity functions, etc to further his war on crime as the Batman.

2. Reeves' Batman is a piss poor detective. He misses the sole angle of the photographs taken by the Riddler of the Iceberg Lounge. The most basic of beat cops woulda looked at those photographs and immediately realized, " OH WAIT, THESE ARE ALL TAKEN FROM THE SAME VANTAGE POINT! WE SHOULD GO INVESTIGATE THIS VANTAGE POINT!" This sole angle woulda led Batman directly to Riddler's apartment, the very place he took those photographs, but because Reeves lacks in the screenplay dept, this revelation would have prematurely wrapped up the investigation and thrust the final act of the story into motion faster than Matt Reeves intended.

3. This is really just more of #2, but Batman needed a guy with a uncle in the carpet laying industry, LOL, to figure out the clue that leads us into the final act. Without that dude coming to the realization that the very tool used by the Riddler in the murder of the mayor was in fact a tool utilized for laying carpet, well this mystery simply does not progress.

4. Batman in Reeves' film doesn't put the protection and safety of the civilian population above his own desire for vengeance. He rushes head on into traffic on a highway, going the wrong way whilst chasing the Penguin, putting the lives of far too many citizens in harms way and probably killing multiple individuals in the process. He also shatters an entire glass ceiling above a stadium of people in the final set piece which would have certainly injured and probably killed multiple individuals in the process.

5. There is no room for the otherworldly in Matt Reeves' The Batman. Reeves is so obsessed with grounding his adaptation that he has left no room for a comic accurate representation of the Batman.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/9/2024, 1:35 PM
@McMurdo - They're all fixable under Gunn. And I think Reeves was probably getting to most of that anyway, except for the otherworldly
JFerguson
JFerguson - 10/9/2024, 7:45 PM
@McMurdo - I agree with most of this. Number 4 is understandable though, he’s growing out of the vengeance phase as you said so mistakes were no doubt gonna be made in terms of civilian life. He did safe that one mayors son when the car crashed though. Make your own list article dude
solskulldeath
solskulldeath - 10/10/2024, 1:07 AM
@McMurdo - nah the batmanw as actually heavily influence from the earth one
Steel86
Steel86 - 10/9/2024, 12:21 PM
2 is a stretch. DCEU was really Zack's universe. The Batman and Joker weren't set there.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/9/2024, 12:26 PM
@Steel86 - yep

Plus while the DCEU as a whole didn’t really work for me , it still had its own bright spots imo like the first WW & Shazam film.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/9/2024, 1:35 PM
@Steel86 - DCEU era.
Steel86
Steel86 - 10/9/2024, 1:55 PM
@ObserverIO - Yeah I saw that but he's still trying to lump them in together and also why I said it was a stretch.
ItsNotForMeWahh
ItsNotForMeWahh - 10/9/2024, 12:21 PM
The points raised are good ones but the world they have created and are continuing to create with the amazing Penguin show don't feel like they tonally work with the hyper vibrant world they are making with Superman

I'm not saying it's impossible but thr work to make it fit is pretty high
Steel86
Steel86 - 10/9/2024, 12:30 PM
@ItsNotForMeWahh - I'm not sure why some fans can't differentiate the movies and the comics. Batman, Superman and whatever else hero you want to read all have different tones for their comic books. The MCU has really put our minds in a box. The real world is far different in different places. New York is completely different from Los Angeles. This is what makes the characters so more compelling when they do meet up. Because they are soo different they clash and they have to figure it out.
RedFury
RedFury - 10/9/2024, 12:41 PM
@Steel86 - you've got a good point, and it certainly carries a lot of merit. But I think the overall issue with tying The Batman universe into the DCU, is that it looks like Gunn is making that world very comic-booky (lots of cool tech, superheroes existing for a while, outlandish characters and ideas, etc.) which The Batman universe doesn't have an inkling of. For those two worlds to exist in the same reality, The Batman would likely have to take place decades before Superman does for them to feel like they even exist on the same planet.

I definitely agree that the tone of the films can be wildly different, and still exist in the same world just like the comics. But these world's seem waaaaay to far apart for the cohesion to feel believable without some major course corrections in a future The Batman film. Just my two cents.
jst5
jst5 - 10/9/2024, 12:53 PM
@ItsNotForMeWahh - I mean it works in the comics....folks have to stop thinking this way.
Steel86
Steel86 - 10/9/2024, 1:27 PM
@RedFury - I respectfully disagree. Japan is far ahead in technology than America and if you visit both places it feels like two different worlds. Gotham is like Chicago or Detroit. Over run with crime and underdeveloped compared to the rest of the US. Just because Superman has alot of tech and is more comicbooky doesn't mean Batman would have to be if he joined. And remember Batman even in the comics stands apart from the rest of the League.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/9/2024, 1:49 PM
@RedFury - Also, Metropolis has a very retro feel with 1970s fashions and technologies. And Gotham does have sci-fi gadgets, like Batman's contact lens device or the magic squirrel cape. And fictitious drugs such as drops and bliss.

Like JackBurton1 says, it works in the comics. Even in the MCU (the Netflix stuff).

Matt Reeves story can have it's own tone and also have it's own grounded sense of reality and still be a prt of the same universe. As long as Wonder Woman and Superman don't show up, then it won't break anyone's suspension of disbelief. Thor and Groot never showed up in Daredevil or The Punisher and if they did it would spoil it, but they are still a part of the MCU.
It can work.
RedFury
RedFury - 10/9/2024, 2:13 PM
@Steel86 - I guess we'll have to see how futuristic the DCU ends up being, but if there's jetpacks, holograms, aliens on earth, and other sci-fi ideas it just doesn't make sense that Gotham wouldn't have even a tiny bit of that tech or influence.

Granted Japan does feel like it's the future, but it's not like the technology or advancements don't exist in other places; Japan just leans into them more. For Metropolis to have a futuristic vibe, with cool tech, and heroes; but somehow the neighboring city of Gotham doesn't have even a single bit of that stuff? Just doesn't vibe with me. If they started to course correct and make The Batman 2 or 3 have more advancements, than I could jive with it. But they personally seem to me like they exist in wildly different realities.
RedFury
RedFury - 10/9/2024, 2:15 PM
@ObserverIO - it's a good point to make, if they keep them entirely seperate I could see that kind of working. But like I said above, to me they just feel like entirely different realities, and that just doesn't jive with me if they're supposed to exist in the same world.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 10/9/2024, 12:23 PM
That universe is too grounded and I doubt Pattinson would want to continue
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/9/2024, 12:24 PM
@MyCoolYoung - yeah

I think he’s fine doing Reeves own standalone universe but idk if he would do a shared one.
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 10/9/2024, 2:13 PM
@MyCoolYoung -

He played a glossy vampire for years in a the twilight universe. Pattinson isn’t above franchises.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 10/9/2024, 4:02 PM
@HulkisHoly - considering he hated twilight and his experience, that's not a good example. He's in a franchise with the batman, but he didn't sign up for a shared universe
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 10/9/2024, 4:02 PM
@TheVisionary25 - yup, exactly
Steel86
Steel86 - 10/9/2024, 12:24 PM
Eventhough I didn't care for Patterson as Batman I wouldn't mind at all. It would confuse the causal fan but Batman is soo popular it probably wouldn't be that big a deal. And there is the competing against yourself thought as well.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 10/9/2024, 12:27 PM
Shockingly i agree with 2,3,4. I don't think its such an easy retcon as stated but it can be done. The problem is 1) i dont see Pattinson wanting to play Batman for a decade or more and 2) i dont think Reeves wants to go into the fantastical/unrealistic realm that is going to happen in the DCU like with Superman or Creature Commandos etc... he likes the grounded/realism. its fine. i like a mix of both. Would i like Pattinson in the DCU with Reeves helping craft the story, sure. DO i think it's gonna happen:

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Steel86
Steel86 - 10/9/2024, 12:35 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - Pat and Mat not wanting to do it would be the biggest hurdle. Just because Batman teams up with the JL on big missions doesn't mean that has to carry over into Gotham. I live in Texas and the floods in Florida aren't affecting me. A line of dialogue is all that is needed and move on with his own story in his own movie.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/9/2024, 1:58 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - Matt already has a trilogy and some spin-off shows in mind, so there would be no change there for him. Pattinson would have more of a commitment because he'd be in other movies beyond just the Reeves stuff.
kazuma
kazuma - 10/9/2024, 12:29 PM
Every Batman/Bruce scene Muschietti did was great. I also don't blame him for the bad VFX, and we know WB [frick]ed with the movie.
The Flash is a bad movie. But You can't really put all the blame on him.
whynot
whynot - 10/9/2024, 1:39 PM
@kazuma - I actually think the flash was great. I think the plot needed work and the CGI was a mess. But most of the acting was great and like you said both Batman’s were fantastic
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/9/2024, 2:00 PM
@kazuma - They could still do a Muschietti movie with more fantastic elements as long as they coordinated with Reeves so it didn't affect his trilogy too much.

I mean, obviously they want to introduce Damian, but who knows what Matt wants to do for The Batman part III. He might want to set it years into the future like Nolan did his final film. So a mention of Damian would probably be all that is needed.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/9/2024, 2:01 PM
or an easter egg like a photograph of Damian and Bruce hanging around somewhere.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 10/9/2024, 2:02 PM
@ObserverIO - Matt couldn't pull of Robin nor would he want to. Robin in his universe would make no sense. His Batman is too inexperienced. Bringing in a child, let alone having a son, it doesn't work.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/9/2024, 2:20 PM
@McMurdo - So he never needs to have a Robin. Just a reference or an easter egg to the fact that there is a Robin in the DCU.

Like The Dynamic Duo and Brave and the Bold can introduce the bat-family elements but that doesn't mean we need to see any of them in a Matt Reeves Batman movie. And just because we don't see them doesn't mean they don't exist. We don't see Batman or Catwoman in The Penguin but they exist.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 10/9/2024, 2:23 PM
@ObserverIO - you cannot watch The Batman and feel in any way shape or form that this dude had a child sidekick helping him fight crime. It doesn't make sense when you watch Reeves' film that he perhaps has a Robin. It's just no there. Youd have to completely pretend Reeves' the Batman doesn't exist and solely use Pattinson's Bat in the DCU but act like his original film is some alternate universe.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/9/2024, 2:27 PM
@McMurdo - Well yeah he doesn't have a Robin in the first film because it's like Year Two Batman. But he may have had a Robin (or two) by the time we see him in The Batman part II. Maybe Dynamic Duo has happened.

And even if he has had a Robin or two, he doesn't even have to mention it if it's not relevant to the story.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/9/2024, 2:28 PM
@McMurdo - There are a lot of Batman comics after he has had a Robin that have no mention of Robin in the books at all.
RedFury
RedFury - 10/9/2024, 12:30 PM
Look... Pattison is an extremely talented actor with insane range, and this reason alone is why I don't think he should stay on as Batman.

He's honestly waaaaay too in demand as a talent, and him being Batman ends in two ways in my opinion. One: He becomes the DCU Batman, but because of how in demand and busy he is we only get him for a few more Batman movies, and the odd team-up. Two: He commits to a new trilogy only, and quits after that.

He just doesn't catch me as the type that is going to want to be pinned down by a giant franchise. His so far career focuses a lot on independent films, and art house films. Maybe I'm wrong but I really can't see him wanting to be tied up by the DCU for the next 10+ years of his life. I really think we need an actor that will commit to the idea of being Batman for as long as the DCU survives. But if it turns out that he does want to stick around, I'd certainly be happy to have him as the permanent Batman.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/9/2024, 12:46 PM
@RedFury - Pattinson has quickly become my favorite Batman but yeah , I don’t see him being the type that would want to be involved in a larger universe.

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RedFury
RedFury - 10/9/2024, 12:49 PM
@TheVisionary25 - same here man, he brought a presence to Batman that just feels right. It would be awesome for him to stay, but just doesn't seem likely unfortunately.
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 10/9/2024, 12:31 PM
Keep Reeves and his universe away from this train wreck in the making.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 10/9/2024, 12:32 PM
No thanks. Id prefer a different batman for the gunn universe
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