Matt Reeves Has Revealed What THE BATMAN Cinematic Universe Is Called

Matt Reeves Has Revealed What THE BATMAN Cinematic Universe Is Called

James Gunn has Superman and the rest of the DCU, while Matt Reeves has a separate cinematic universe and he's finally revealed what it's called.

By MarkJulian - Jul 23, 2024 07:07 PM EST
Filed Under: The Batman
Source: EW

If you wanted final confirmation that Matt Reeves' The Batman would be existing outside of James Gunn's DC Universe (DCU), you finally have it.

In a new interview with Entertainment Weekly, Reeves revealed that he and his  producing partner Dylan Clark refer to their Batman universe as the 'Batman Epic Crime Saga.'

The universe began with Robert Pattinson's 2022, underrated superhero origin tale and will continue with HBO's  The Penguin, which will hit HBO in September.

Reeves was also developing an Arkham television spin-off that surprisingly was revealed to be set within Gunn's DCU before the project was ultimately canceled.

"As we were writing the movie [The Batman], I was like, 'Hey, you know what? I think there are some cool shows that we could do," Reeves  told EW. "It was actually why I wanted to make our deal at Warner Bros."

According to Reeves, HBO execs told him that they wanted him to lean into the marquee characters more. As a result, the Arkham series was nixed and elements of a separate, Gotham PD spin-off, were folded into The Penguin.

In other news, Warner Bros. Discovery has recently decided to push The Batman sequel back to October 2, 2026, a whole year from its original October 3, 2025 release date.

With the first film releasing on March 4, 2022, that means there will be a four-year gap between theatrical installments. However, Reeves went on to explain that The Penguin picks up one week after where The Batman leaves off, and then leads directly into the sequel.  

"It’s a Scarface story. It’s a rise-to-power story of Oz before he really makes it to the top," said showrunner Lauren LeFranc. He added, "We’re living in the underbelly of the city. Oz is a mover and a shaker. He can’t always be trusted. He’s very smart and very methodical, but he’s also extremely impulsive. You can’t predict what he’s going to do."

LeFranc  went on to describe the series as the bridge that connects the two films, "We are the bridge between the two films,” LeFranc reveals, referring to The Batman and Reeves’ sequel, slated for 2026. “We’re going almost directly into the second film Matt has planned.


The Penguin Official Synopsis: The next chapter in The Batman saga from Matt Reeves. Academy Award Nominee Colin Farrell is The Penguin in the new 8-episode, Max Original Series coming this fall to Max.

The series stars  Colin Farrell's Oswald Cobblepot aka The Penguin, Michael Kelly as Johnny Vitti, Cristin Milioti as Carmine Faclcone’s daughter Sofia Falcone, Michael Zegen as Carmine’s son Alberto Falcone and Clancy Brown as rival mobster Salvatore Maroni.

Also appearing in supporting roles are Jared Abrahamson, Rhenzy Feliz, Shohreh Aghdashloo, Deirdre O’Connell, Carmen Ejogo, François Chau, Theo Rossi, and David H. Holmes.

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harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 7/23/2024, 7:42 PM
"epic" are we back in 2010? there was nothing epic about it. the film was mediocre at best
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0bstreperous
0bstreperous - 7/23/2024, 7:47 PM
@harryba11zack - mediocre and 3 hours long
TheRogue
TheRogue - 7/23/2024, 7:48 PM
@harryba11zack - Eh disagree. Love the batman
MG0019
MG0019 - 7/23/2024, 9:17 PM
@TheRogue - Glad you liked it; I tried watching it again 3x at home and couldn’t make it through. Finally, on the 4th attempt I made it through. Think I pinpointed why I think it’s so dreadfully boring:

The first 3rd is good. Atmosphere builds up, Riddler on the loose. The designs are my least favorite, Batman & Riddler’s. Though I really like Bat’s cowl here. Catwoman is perfect; except for her god awful mask lol. The films starts to slog. Everything, from every step, to every beat, is soooooo slow. When it doesn’t need to be. Batman moves at a snail pace, & I get it’s intentional, but he takes a pause after every step and it becomes very noticeable & irritating.

Then the film takes the biggest misstep. We pause the main plot to follow Bruce on a side quest about his dad. Where he learns his dad isn’t such a great guy, only he is, but kinda not, but did shady stuff but only for good reasons. It’s so convoluted, and worse yet, only TALKED about. Nothing is shown, and Bruce barely reacts out of his monotone performance. But’s about 45min talking and talking about a character we don’t even have a face to, about another mob boss that we ALSO never see. It’s so over indulgent by Matt Reeves and comes off very pretentious to me.

That makes the other flaws jump out more. The rest of the film is almost a shot for shot remake of Seven; with lifted beats from Dark Knight to boot. It all becomes insufferable to me.

I do like the scenes of Gordon & Batman (before the sidequest). And Penguin looks awesome, while being true to the character.
Negaduck
Negaduck - 7/23/2024, 9:22 PM
@harryba11zack - agreed
HistoryofMatt
HistoryofMatt - 7/23/2024, 7:43 PM
So what they're saying here is... The Batman and the world Matt Reeves is making in his movies and The Penguin TV Show… it looks like, even more than telling a Batman story, his trilogy of movies and the TV show is more about telling The Penguin’s rise to power as the crime boss of Gotham, and probably, what I assume will be his eventual demise in the final film?

That’s actually interesting and something very different for the genre.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 7/23/2024, 7:47 PM
That name is ABSOLUTE ASS
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 7/23/2024, 7:52 PM
@GhostDog - How you been?
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GhostDog
GhostDog - 7/23/2024, 9:05 PM
@MCUKnight11 - *tips hat back

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McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/23/2024, 9:10 PM
@GhostDog - Yeah we will stick with Reevesverse
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 7/23/2024, 9:20 PM
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TheRogue
TheRogue - 7/23/2024, 7:47 PM
Its not [frick]ing universe name, its just name of a story he has planned.
Doom17
Doom17 - 7/23/2024, 7:49 PM
Was anyone expecting his cinematic universe to be called Reeverse?
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 7/24/2024, 3:20 AM
@Doom17 - no, but it sounds better than "Epic Crime Saga" imo. That makes it sound like the a Godfather saga, while Batman is the opposite. Think Batman would agree crime is not epic
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 7/24/2024, 5:23 AM
@bkmeijer1 - Also the Godfather was a saga because there were three generations involved. Matt Reeves Batman stuff is one generation and will probably span 10 years maximum, so it's not a saga at all.
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 7/23/2024, 7:51 PM
Could do without the word epic. BCS has a nice ring to it.
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bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 7/24/2024, 3:21 AM
@MCUKnight11 - agreed. Crime isn't epic anyway, so it's a weird title to begin with.
Spoken
Spoken - 7/23/2024, 7:55 PM
Batman Crime Saga is fine.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 7/23/2024, 7:58 PM

New accurate description: Batman overly long should have edited about 30 minutes out pretty good though sometimes boring cinematic verse.

HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 7/23/2024, 8:03 PM
Nolan's had the Epic scope whereas Reeve's Batman film felt more like a it was made for TV by comparison.
TheRogue
TheRogue - 7/23/2024, 8:24 PM
@HashTagSwagg - Nothing of the actual movie looked made for tv. Hell the penguin series is pretty high calibar for something so dumb in concept.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 7/23/2024, 8:42 PM
@TheRogue - There are few nice shots here and there but overall it just looks like a decent made TV show and considering the money that went into that film, they didn't do a good job of showing where that all went. The whole third act with the stadium and the Riddlercels is blurry ass eyesore. The only reason it's so blurred out is to try and hide the dodgy ass green screen work.
TheRogue
TheRogue - 7/23/2024, 8:45 PM
@HashTagSwagg - No, I dont think any of it looks like tv. Ungenuine critique. Admiddatly it has a fuzz, but it has way more then "A few nice shots" lol. I see constant brought up for its beautiful shots.
braunermegda
braunermegda - 7/23/2024, 8:17 PM
Oh, god
Nolanite
Nolanite - 7/23/2024, 8:29 PM
And on this day, Reevesnite was born.
Fares
Fares - 7/23/2024, 8:45 PM
As more time passes, I become more convinced that this universe won't have even a hint of anything superhuman. I'd be really surprised if Mr. Freeze or Clayface get adapted, even in the most grounded fashion. But I still hold hope for the Court of Owls. They can drop the undead nature of the talons and just make them regular assassins.
TheRogue
TheRogue - 7/23/2024, 8:48 PM
@Fares - Hot take it might of........if gunn wasnt gonna obviously have fantastical version.

Which sucks cause either one would work fine. Its not even that realistic imo.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 7/23/2024, 9:09 PM
@Fares - yeah

I do feel you could adapt all those characters in a grounded manner while the horror tinge we got in the First one would benefit them aswell , especially the Court.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/23/2024, 9:12 PM
@Fares - nah Gunn will be the one to do Batman right by way of the comics/supernatural
SuperJefe
SuperJefe - 7/23/2024, 9:26 PM
@McMurdo - I really hope so. I’m so over gritty, grounded, “realistic” Batman crap.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 7/23/2024, 9:30 PM
@SuperJefe - I feel it’s the best of both

DCU Batman might be more comic booky while this will be more grounded
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 7/24/2024, 3:25 AM
@Fares - I think so too. The fantastical won't bring it down though imo. I remember the Arkham games as really grounded too, while it had tons of fantastical elements.

Fantastical is not a must though. I do hope Part 2 has Freeze as the villain and Part 3 the Court of Owls, and that can work without the supernatural angle imo.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 7/23/2024, 9:20 PM
Cool , sounds good!!.

Remove the Epic and just have it be “The Batman Crime Saga” since that sounds better.

Anyway while it would have been interesting see their Gotham P.D and Arkham shows from the details we do know about them , I still wasn’t too excited about them either so not too bummed that they aren’t happening…

If they do intend to focus on the more marquee characters then I hope we do get a Catwoman show announced soon!!.

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SummersEssex
SummersEssex - 7/23/2024, 9:35 PM
I liked the movie and imma let you finish, but all we’re getting is another grounded Batman trilogy when we were supposed to get a Batman movie in a world where Superman exists
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 7/23/2024, 10:18 PM
Not feeling it at all, sorry.
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