Has a thread on IMDb revealed basically everything about TDKR? POSSIBLE MAJOR SPOILERS

Has a thread on IMDb revealed basically everything about TDKR? POSSIBLE MAJOR SPOILERS

I came across this earlier today on a thread on this very site, it was posted by a CBM user who warned about how this possibly spoiled the entire movie. Given the amount of ridiculous rumors that I've seen on IMDb threads before, it is unlikely that his is legit...but then again, the post goes into great detail with specific scenes, I personally don't believe it, but it is intriguing...WARNING: POSSIBLE MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD

By TheBostonBatman - May 31, 2012 12:05 PM EST
Filed Under: The Dark Knight Rises
Source: IMDb.com

The user, who posted this Tuesday night, calls Nolan a "douchebag" and claims to have worked on the set with his friends:


"Okay I honestly don't give a *beep* if you believe this... but here goes.
Basically I worked on the set of The Dark Knight Rises. I'm not a huge player by any means... but I am part of the crew and worked about 70% of scenes in the film. Long story short, I know everything that happens in the movie. I'm here tonight to give you all any spoilers that you want (if you're sure you want them. This is gonna be a pretty *beep* incredible finale to Nolan's trilogy and I highly recommend going in as blind as possible).

Now why would I offer these spoilers, you ask? I'm too pissed to go into much detail... but basically Nolan has been a gigantic douchebag to me and my friends... constantly making us do more work for less pay. We're dedicated to Batman and to telling this story, but I think we're a bit too dedicated and Nolan took advantage of that. I'm coming off the project with payment for about 50% of the actual work I did... and Nolan isn't making any effort to see credit where credit is due (My friend and I pulled multiple, multiple extra shifts... sometimes staying up all night to make shoots happen... and the most we've gotten is a thanks).

Again... I'm not making you believe me or even ask me. But if you really want to know I'm here. I've read the final script and I also worked on both the climax and the final scene/epilogue. "

THIS COULD POSSIBLY SPOIL THE ENTER MOVIE



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LAST CHANCE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO POSSIBLY HAVE THE WHOLE MOVIE SPOILED


"1.) HOW DOES ALFRED DIE?

Alfred dies in the raid on Wayne manor.
Bane doesn't kill him personally but orders one of his men to do it. Caine is an absolute class act though and that scene should have you in tears if the energy from the set comes through in the finished film.


2.) DOES BATMAN DIE?

Yes. Bane kills him. Nolan isn't holding anything back. The scene is brutal and Batman nearly kills Bane *beep* with his mask) and for a moment you think Batman's won. Then Bane goes into absolute freakshow rabid animal mode and tears Batman to shreds. As he pummels him... his mask comes off (this is in front of everyone) and people see it was Wayne. Basically Bane's movement is fueled by the general public's dissatisfaction with the people who "can buy their way out." However, when the people see that the man defending them all along was Bruce Wayne... they turn on Bane. His men kill him.


3.) WAS JOKER MENTIONED?

No. Joker isn't mentioned at all in the film and I support that decision. It feels a bit tasteless to refer to him. But believe me you won't care. Bane owns this film.


4.) WHERE IS THE JOKER?

Nowhere to be found. You will see the Scarecrow though.


5.) WHAT THE *beep* IS LIAM NEESON DOING IN THIS?

just a flashback. Nothing crazy. I believe Nolan wanted Neeson to hint he was on set to fuel rumors and speculation. Smart move.


6.) DO THEY REFER TO BANES JUICE AS VENOM?

No they only refer to it as an anesthetic of sorts. Basically he sustained an injury that should have killed him and now at 45 he can only function with it on. However he does take it off to eat and there's an absolutely INSANE scene where you see him take it off. Very Darth Vader. It's weird how vulnerability should make him less threatening but actually just makes him scarier. Nolan and Hardy worked really hard on Bane and it shows. In my opinion he's better than Ledger's Joker.


7.) Elaboration on number 4 above:

Well in the montage of Bane's gotham takeover (after the bridge explosions you see in the trailer it goes into full swing) he attempts to turn loose all the prisons, etc... and that includes Arkham. Scarecrow's in there and we briefly see him... but that's all. He never factors into the story. I actually heard rumblings about that scene getting cut from the theatrical since it's kind of a non sequitor but I never heard a final word.


8.) Elaboration on Bane taking mask off:

There's a scene where Bane invites Commissioner Gordon to dine with him. Bane's wondering if the police force will join his ranks or continue to represent an authoritative presence that answers to the wealthier higher ups. Bane is cool as a cucumber as he takes his mask off and eats a fancy steak in Wayne manor (which he and his men took over and destroyed). He detaches the front mouth component from these tubes in the back of his throat and we see how *beep* up he is. Some of it's makeup but there's a bit of CG post so I can't say for sure what it'll look like. But again Hardy absolutely owns this scene.


9.) IS HARLEY QUINN IN THIS MOVIE?

No


10.) IS THE FINAL SCENE BANES ARMY VS. BATMANS ARMY?

Yes the final scene is the one hinted at in the trailers in broad daylight where the two armies square off. That shot you see in the trailer with the camera rotating around a crazy looking Bane is when he's expecting Batman to come out and face him. Then the Bat swoops in and one of Bane's tumblers shoots it down and the fight begins.


11.) DOES A "BREAK THE BAT" SCENE HAPPEN?

yes the "break the bat" sequence is the underground/ dripping water one you've seen in the trailers. I actually didn't work that scene but my friend did. He says the choreography is amazing.


12.) NO WAY BATMAN DIES... IS THIS TRUE?

From what I heard the studio really really didn't want Nolan and Goyer to kill Batman... but when you made the *beep* Dark Knight you get a certain amount of leverage. Also it's less sad/ depressing because it's strongly STRONGLY suggested that Blake takes up the mantle. Yes Batman dies.


14.) DOES BANE COME OFF AS A CHARISMATIC/SYMPATHETIC VILLAIN OR IS HE JUST SCARY?

It's weird how they manage both. Whereas Joker was very crazy and capricious Bane is extremely cool and calculating. However when Bane goes into neck breaking mode (awesome scene at the stadium equivalent of Joker's pencil trick) he's absolutely terrifying. There's a look in Hardy's eyes that gave me goosebumps.


15.) TidBit #1:

Tough to explain but he (Batman) sort of tries to kamikaze the Bat into Bane as he enters the fight. It's supposed to parallel the HIT ME Joker scene from TDK...except this time he actually plans to hit Bane. However one of Bane's tumblers shoots him down before he can... then Bane rips Batman from the cockpit and the fight begins.

TidBit #2: (refering to the Gordon/Bane dinner scene in Wayne Manor)

Well he's (Bane) dressed in his coat and such and still has blood on his hands (literally). He's seeing how the other half lives and visually it does more to establish his separation from high society than to suggest a hypocritical nature to his plight. There's an earlier shot with Bruce at the same table and the visual juxtaposition really sells it.

TidBit #3: (still refferring to Dinner scene with Gordon/Bane)

I don't remember the exact dialogue from the shoot (a lot of Tom's stuff was done in post to get the voice right) but basically the decadence of the meal sort of embodies the high society lifestyle and the whole lead up to him taking off the mask to eat represents how difficult of a thing it is for him to swallow. Again the way I'm explaining it makes it sound like *beep* and Nolan is way more subtle and intelligent but that's basically the point of the scene.


16.) WHATS CATWOMENS ROLE?

The entire inclusion of Catwoman in the film I'm still not crazy about... but Hathaway does do a good job. She really put a lot into the role and it shows. She sort of hovers between the good and the bad and serves as a sort of barometer of greyness by which to understand the actions of Batman and Bane. As a character I personally find her distracting but for what Nolan was going for it does work.


17.) HOW IS BANE AND BATMAN GOING TO UNDERSTAND ONE ANOTHER?

Haha I suspect there will be jokes about that but I haven't seen any final cuts of the film. I never found Bane's voice particularly hard to understand though... and it personally seemed to me that Bale toned down the Batman growl a bit.


18.) DOES BLAKE TAKE UP THE MANTLE OF BATMAN?

it's heavily implied but not explicitly shown that he takes up the mantle as the new Batman. Basically Batman becomes a symbol yadda yadda you get it


19.) DOES THE FIGHT SCENES SEEM BETTER THAN THE LAST MOVIES? AT-LEAST MORE THAN VEHICLE SCENES?

Definitely more melee than vehicle... though the Bat does get some choice bits. Melee stuff is miles ahead of TDK (Batman's fight with Joker was so goddamn underwhelming). Bane is powerful and agile all at once. I know some of you guys thought Tom should be bigger but he comes across as sort of a rottweiler. Not the biggest dog in the pack but guaranteed to give you everything he's got.


20.) WHY IS BANE USING THE MASK?

Basically Bane's respiratory and digestive tracts are annihilated. His mouth is a *beep* mess. He can speak fine but when he attempts to swallow it's sad and scary at once. A friend of mine's sister has cerebral palsy and it kinda reminds me of that.


21.) WILL WE SEE BANES FACE WITHOUT THE MASK?

Again about half of it will be added in post but from what i could gather his teeth will be fully exposed. In other words it looks like *beep* but structurally it still functions. His breathing however... less so. That's why the tubes feed farther back directly into his trachea."



Wow. What do you guys think about this??

The link to the thread: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1345836/board/thread/199747243?p=1

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NerdyGeek
NerdyGeek - 5/31/2012, 1:04 PM
Fake!
MovieMaster
MovieMaster - 5/31/2012, 1:04 PM
No.
THEDARKNIGHT100
THEDARKNIGHT100 - 5/31/2012, 1:05 PM
fake fake and more fake
Tajin88
Tajin88 - 5/31/2012, 1:08 PM
Sounds fake, but I wished, there was a scene with unmasked Bane eating something, just to shut up all the retarded people. -How does Bane eat?
RunDTC
RunDTC - 5/31/2012, 1:08 PM
faker than Kim Kardashian's body.
LucasMend
LucasMend - 5/31/2012, 1:09 PM
I won't waste my time reading this
Tajin88
Tajin88 - 5/31/2012, 1:12 PM
@RunDTC- LOL!
ksommer
ksommer - 5/31/2012, 1:13 PM
Doubt it.
PartyHard
PartyHard - 5/31/2012, 1:15 PM
I saw this on 4chan a few days ago
Greengo
Greengo - 5/31/2012, 1:15 PM
STROKE THE SHAFT AND SWALLOW THE GRAAAVVVYYYY

superotherside
superotherside - 5/31/2012, 1:17 PM
Hmmmm... I'm not sure if I believe that or not. Sounds almost legit but at the same time I'm not sure. Seems like there are a LOT of people who are saying the same thing, then plus it looks like it could end that way from the footage etc. And it does kinda make sense with how Nolan does stuff.
PaulRom
PaulRom - 5/31/2012, 1:18 PM
Yeah, sounds fake.
CaptainAmerica1945
CaptainAmerica1945 - 5/31/2012, 1:18 PM
Probably fake....
superotherside
superotherside - 5/31/2012, 1:18 PM
That said, IMDb isn't usually right about these things. So yeah. Still taking this with a huge block of salt.
DeMoNaSsDiZ
DeMoNaSsDiZ - 5/31/2012, 1:26 PM
doesn't sound anymore fake than half of the speculation that is found on this site. this seems right up nolan's alley for a finale. end it with a definitive ending for the character. death. the only thing i don't buy is bane's army turning on him and killing him. all because a rich guy is the savior of gotham? i thought they said bane was going to be a deep character, not a shallow monetary villain. regardless, seems like the deaths would work. we shall see.
Kmac23
Kmac23 - 5/31/2012, 1:36 PM
Idk about this guys...I dont think they would kill of Batman
ISleepNow
ISleepNow - 5/31/2012, 1:51 PM
Again, no mention of the giant bug killing Bane, I'm calling bullshit..
Viltrumite
Viltrumite - 5/31/2012, 4:09 PM
There's a possibility of this being real, but I'm leaning towards it being an elaborately written fake.
DukeAcureds
DukeAcureds - 5/31/2012, 4:31 PM
It really does sound fake.
If it is true, however, even I could not predict Nolan would sink so low into shit. Never mind people tearing Bane apart, they're gonna rip Nolan apart.
batfan175
batfan175 - 5/31/2012, 4:57 PM
some of it sounds fake, some of it sounds plausible but even if it's fake it just gets me more excited to watch the film :D.
Gnyah123
Gnyah123 - 5/31/2012, 6:41 PM
@RunDTC
her butt is actually real...
Gnyah123
Gnyah123 - 5/31/2012, 6:49 PM
idk how i feel about this though...i hope sum of its true
but then again i hope not
but like i said i am ready to cry during this movie!!
D117
D117 - 5/31/2012, 8:51 PM
Bullshit, IMDB isn't reliable
Bumble
Bumble - 6/1/2012, 7:16 AM
well, first of all, i doubt nolan would give or distribute out complete scripts to hands on the film. alos the whole thing about them working over time and not getting paid for it is b.s. the guys who work on the film (camera men, hands, etc.) are all union members. they have strict contracts explaining not only how long they can work but even when and how long they are required to have lunch breaks. i call b.s.
Phlegmbot
Phlegmbot - 6/1/2012, 8:29 AM
@Bumble - PA's are never union as far as I'm aware.

Also, this is the FIRST article I've read that makes this movie sound good. I hope it's not fake. The trailers are ridiculous - I actually laughed at the most-recent one (Hathaway's robotic VO, Bane's voice changes between the two scenes we see of him, the bad joke at the end - or wait, was the t.v. spot. I forget, they all look like shit.) Anyway, I hope it's true. It actually made me want to see the movie.
ralfinader
ralfinader - 6/1/2012, 8:33 AM
I read this the other day, and dreaded it being real. Dreaded it to the point I have no intention of ever seeing the movie if it is true. So, we will get more legit spoilers once it premiers, and especially if it releases over-seas before the USA. It should be easy to verify what this dude wrote is on the level or not then. BUT, if this is true, it would really really suck.
GoILL
GoILL - 6/1/2012, 9:14 AM
This shit better be fake.
sinister84
sinister84 - 6/1/2012, 11:57 AM
99% FAKE
aproposofthewetsnow
aproposofthewetsnow - 6/1/2012, 2:09 PM
There is not one mention of Miranda Tate in this entire article. And everyone knows she plays some type of villain. Fake.
GraGar
GraGar - 6/1/2012, 6:33 PM
Wonder how much time it took to think all of that up?
R888
R888 - 6/1/2012, 11:53 PM
What a load of bullshit
SINema666
SINema666 - 6/2/2012, 2:26 AM
no way is this real... Ive worked lighting for over ten years and there is NO WAY what this guy is saying would happen...

for starters...

if he is the low man on the totem pole, like I am, then Nolan would have NOTHING to do with his pay... Nolan would also have nothing to with the hours worked... The producers, UPM, AD's, and his immediate boss i.e. best boy, set dresser, etc... would decide his hours... not Nolan...

Also, everyone on a set like this is union except for the PAs and everyone would get paid based on their timecard, not because they were asked to work "extra shifts"... and no one on a set refers to a days work as a shift btw...

this guy is totally full of crap... I worked the TDKR for the LA shoot... this guy knows nothing of the film industry...
HouseSnow
HouseSnow - 6/2/2012, 7:30 AM
i hope to part about bane taking his mask off is true, but otherwise i call bull shit. Batman/bruce wayne will not die.
TheYesGuy
TheYesGuy - 6/2/2012, 8:15 AM
Y the FU*K has the post been deleted off IMDB???

And Nolan didn't even tell Gordon the entire Story, Hoow do u expect him to reveal it in front of this Guy??

Fake.. But Good..
HAQ
HAQ - 6/2/2012, 4:28 PM
Good read. We'll see...
Joker11
Joker11 - 6/2/2012, 10:33 PM
"Then Bane rips Batman from the cockpit and the fight begins."

This proves it is false in the set videos Bane and Batman meet each other in the crowd.
jumpingJellybeans
jumpingJellybeans - 6/7/2012, 5:54 PM
I can see all the fanboy's freak out right now... But I do admit, having a "break the bat" scene, yet somehow having him kill him again does seem a bit... BS. Highly doubt he'll fight Bane again with a [frick]ing broken spine.
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