Is Leonardo Dicaprio being primed for the role of The Riddler in Batman 3?

Is Leonardo Dicaprio being primed for the role of The Riddler in Batman 3?

The pieces to this puzzle may already be falling into place

Editorial Opinion
By 48and2 - May 28, 2010 11:05 PM EST
Filed Under: The Dark Knight Rises

We now know just how much Christopher Nolan befriends and depends on his personal stable of actors for direct multiple and follow up performances; so much so that we recently discovered (courtesy of JoshW) he allowed Cillian Murphy [The villanous Scarecrow in The Dark Knight] to "read through the script and choose a role in Inception".



I had recently written an editorial about how OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) fits into The Riddler's bio, comparing the characters, and how it's very similar to the struggle Howard Hughes endured during his lifetime, and probably was part of the driving force behind his phenomenal success, and eventual demise. Becoming a potential influence to any actor portraying a realistic Riddler. My suggestion was to base The Riddler on Howard Hughes gone bad.

The Riddler is a character sharing multiple traits with Howard Hughes. Not only are they both OCD sufferers, but they are of genius level intellect, and you could say they're both in general "obsessed with puzzles". Nolan's already explored the effects of TBI (Tramatic Brain Injury), and short term memory loss in Memento; the search for identity, criminal behavior, and general insanity, etc. with Batman. Mental distress, morality, criminality, identity; these are the themes Christopher Nolan seems primarily fascinated with.


Leonardo Dicaprio played the leading role in and was nominated for an Academy Award in Martin Scorcese's The Aviator (2005) - a biography of Howard Hughes. For this role he did extensive research into the subject of OCD. So much so that he consulted with doctors, and even shadowed patients plagued with the illness.

These are excerpts from Dicaprio doing a press conference for The Aviator that offer us a window into just how much research he's done toward the subject, and how dedicated he can be:

"As an actor, you’re constantly searching for that great character. And, being a history buff and learning about people in our past and amazing things that they’ve done, I came across a book of Howard Hughes and he was set up basically as like the most multi-dimensional character I could ever come across."

"[Hughes was] the first American billionaire who had all the resources in the world but was somehow unable to find any sense of peace or happiness. It’s that great see-saw act in the movie that goes on. On one side, he’s having all the successes in the world. And on the other side the tiny microbes and germs are the things that are taking him downwards, because of his OCD and being a germaphobe."

"I think he certainly took things farther than I could ever imagine. He was such an obsessed human being. He was so obsessive about everything he’d gotten involved with, whether it be planes or women or the films that he made. And that is the direct result of his OCD."

"So that brought me to work with Dr. Jeffrey Schwartz of UCLA, who is the
leading physician on obsessive compulsive disorder and treating it in a non-medicated fashion. He really explained to me what OCD is and the brain mechanism that goes into it and the sort of faulty gear shift, the sticky gear shift that happens when your mind obsesses on one thing and you don’t listen to the other part of your brain that tells you you’re being ridiculous. So, I worked a lot with him and a patient of his. I spent a few days with him, living around him and talking to him and really trying to find out why he had to repeat or do things obsessively. Then, reading every possible book I could on him and his life."


There is a heavy push from much of the fanbase for The Riddler to make an appearance in the sequel to The Dark Knight, with Michael Caine, Gary Oldman, Johnny Depp having commented on the subject, and even Hans Zimmer "wanting to do a score for The Riddler". With Zimmer becoming an inseperable force to Nolan's filmmaking, this adds to the likelihood that we may see these events unfold.




Though we will have to wait for Inception's reception, and further information regarding the director's and actor's collaboration. I think this is at least circumstantial evidence and makes it a very likely possibility we may see Dicaprio cropping up as Batman's troublesome and troubled green suited rogue in the fervently awaited and as of yet untitled sequel to The Dark Knight. Love him or hate him, will all this in mind, I think the odds just went up of seeing Dicaprio get it.

Inception opens on July 16 which will offer insight into how successfully Nolan and him pair up, and shortly thereafter, how exactly Nolan's going to approach Batman 3 currently slated for a July 20, 2012 release.
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48and2
48and2 - 5/29/2010, 2:01 AM
@Ozy I'm actually not even sure yet. Becoming more and more impartial. Think I'll have to wait for Inception to judge Dicaprio though - didn't see Shutter Island.

But this is not about Depp being The Riddler, this is pseudo investigative. If Nolan is as genius as we think he is, and he plans very far ahead. I'm betting there's been discussion and consideration of The Riddler at least since going into TDK - meaning he had time to put pieces together and watch actors.

Dicaprio has everything for that part, including the "OCD training" lol.

I also thought later "Catch Me If You Can", and all the research he did for that role would fit well into a "Nolan Riddler". All the forging, and super genius criminally innovative techniques Frank Abagnale Jr. was using to rip off banks, before people even knew it existed. Combine The Aviator and Catch Me if You Can, and you have a fine young Riddler in the making I believe. Cross Howard hughes and Frank Abagnale Jr. - make them darker and somewhat brutal, and you have a force to be reckoned with.

If anyone does anything with this, I put will all this in mind - instead of "with"... sure do wish I could edit this stuff. Essentially have to reformat it 3 times. And I have no idea why my comment's coming up totally bold - must be an editor tag or something?? sabotage Ozy? =P
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 5/29/2010, 4:22 AM
HELL NO!!!

I'm sure he'd do an a okay job but.... BLACK MASK if anything!

JOHNNY DEPP for da RIDDLER! : P
1chris2
1chris2 - 5/29/2010, 7:04 AM
i say give the man a chance he is a great actor and i think he would do a great job as the riddler. and just might surprise you guys.but along side the riddler needs to be harley quinne ,and the joker. i say james franco and kristin bell for the roles.
StrangerX
StrangerX - 5/29/2010, 8:52 AM
I don't want riddler in the next Nolan Batman. TDK was great with Joker and Two-face, but Nolan should finish the way he started and use other characters. I prefer a story that includes

Hugo Strange
Black Mask
& possibly Catwoman
Vafrous
Vafrous - 5/29/2010, 9:54 AM
I could picture him as Riddler and B.Mask...
InTylerWeTrust
InTylerWeTrust - 5/29/2010, 9:57 AM
He could be a good Riddler. Hate the idea of him as Black Mask. BM should be an intimidating, tough SOB, and Leo can't convince me that he's tough and intimidating at all.
Wadey09
Wadey09 - 5/29/2010, 11:03 AM
i'll wait for Inception.
DiCaprio is an excellent actor. Gangs of New York and Blood Diamond prooved that. but i couldn't really sit through the Aviator all the way through. idk, it was a little boring imho.
but seeing Leo as the Riddler? its left field definitley. and Nolan has a tendency to go for the left field choice.
great investigation @48and2!

don't forget to check out Part VI of my Spider-man story! just click the LINK!!!
DaenerysTargaryen
DaenerysTargaryen - 5/29/2010, 12:29 PM
Leo WAS hot.
48and2
48and2 - 5/29/2010, 2:24 PM
It is all maybe a bit of a far reach, but my intuition tells me it's very possible. Not to boast or come off as an conceited, but my intuition I've found is about %85.

I alslo am highly aware most of the editors on this site don't favor the Riddler, but looking all over the internet, I'll say it's %60-%40 pro from what I've seen.

@Tea I know I know, but here we have him working with the director of TDK - I'm quite sure that with the serious direction of the genre, and if he gets along well with Nolan - If he wants him bad enough, Nolan will talk him into it.

@Tyler that's why I think the pieces fit so well - he has sort of the same build as The Riddler, and his development over the last few years - he's great, but he's almost like a "fake tough guy".

I'll say it again - Main components of The Riddler's bio are 1.OCD, 2. super genius, 3 obsessed with puzzles. He is an antithetical Howard Hughes period.

Since this didn't make main, if it turns out to be true, you guys can all buy me a pint =P Tea you can pay for airfare =P
48and2
48and2 - 5/29/2010, 2:32 PM
Plus it appears Nolan has him playing a "mindcop" in Inception - posibly "mindcop gone bad". My predictions on Inception is that it's going to be quite a bit like Minority Report - where they develop this serum to allow you to travel in others minds and investigate, visuals somewhat of The Matrix. I think he is trying to simulate the strangeness and fragility of dreams and imagination, and illusion in a movie. Will have hints of Memento too - everything will become not as it seems in the end.
PopBunker
PopBunker - 5/29/2010, 4:05 PM
I think DiCaprio would be pretty nails for the role - and would be the kind of Riddler than would fit into the Nolanverse.

I want Johnny Depp to stay away from any franchise that I take seriously. I love his work pre PIRATES, but find his acting to be insufferable now. He's young and has already caught the bug where he is cast to play Johnny Depp as _____ and not a character per se.
AverageCitizen99
AverageCitizen99 - 5/29/2010, 4:47 PM
Leo would be an interesting choice and could give us a surprising performance like Heath did for the Joker. And the OCD aspect can really fit into Nolan's Bat-verse as every other interpretation he's done with the other characters.

P.S.

Awesome work on that Batwing article. I had always thought it would be hard for it to translate on screen but you've just proved me wrong. ;)
Denn1s
Denn1s - 5/29/2010, 5:36 PM
leo could work as riddler.
TheDurkinKnight
TheDurkinKnight - 5/30/2010, 6:41 AM
Nooooo Riddler dammit!!
superbatspiderman
superbatspiderman - 6/1/2010, 7:56 PM
I think he could pull it off DiCaprio is a great actor and with the direction of Nolan he would be great. I bet that we all thought it was strange when we heard Heath Ledger was playing the Joker and look how that turned out never doubt Chris Nolan.
Hobgoblyn
Hobgoblyn - 6/8/2010, 10:42 PM
I like the idea-- if they do the right sort of Riddler for the film, Leo would be much better in the role than Depp.
marvel72
marvel72 - 6/13/2010, 1:25 PM
he could probably play a pretty decent riddler.
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