The Rise And Fall Of BATFLECK: Where Did It All Go Wrong For Ben Affleck's Version Of Batman?

The Rise And Fall Of BATFLECK: Where Did It All Go Wrong For Ben Affleck's Version Of Batman?

Ben Affleck has officially decided to step down as the DCEU's Dark Knight, but as Matt Reeves starts hunting for a new actor to don the cape and cowl, where exactly did things go wrong for "Batfleck"?

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By JoshWilding - Feb 01, 2019 06:02 AM EST
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What a journey it's been. Roughly five and a half years after Ben Affleck was cast to play one of DC Comics' most iconic characters in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, the actor has officially decided to step down from the role on the same day that a release date for Matt Reeves' The Batman was revealed.

It was a long time coming, and the door is now open for a new actor to take on the role of Bruce Wayne. They will follow in the footsteps of the likes of Michael Keaton and Christian Bale, and they're sure to find themselves put under the microscope after "Batfleck" ended up being an extremely popular Dark Knight in the eyes of most comic book fans. 

While we've previously broken down his will he/won't he relationship with The Batman, we're now delving into where it all went wrong from the time he was cast, to him venting his frustrations over the pressures of making the movie, and the day he hung up his cape.

So, to check out this breakdown, all you guys have to do is hit the "View List" button below. 


Batfleck Backlash



On August 22nd, 2013, Ben Affleck was announced as the new Batman for what was then being billed as an untitled Man of Steel sequel. Despite his impressive turns in movies like The Town and Argo, there was an immediate backlash and fans really weren't on board with him playing the Caped Crusader.

Here on CBM, the article revealing the news received over 1500 comments with gems like, "[I'm] just really not a fan of this news... [I] feel like DC hates us," "Nothing about Affleck screams Bruce Wayne or Batman," and "NO. No way, this has got to be a joke surely? I mean, BEN AFFLECK? BEN AFFLECK!?!?!?!? No way. I refuse to believe it." And those are just the clean ones! 

This wasn't a good start for Batfleck and the actor later talked about being told by Warner Bros. to not pay too much attention to what was being said online. Unfortunately, things would only get worse for him from there...
 

Batman v Superman Bombs



As time passed, the images and trailers made it clear that Affleck was a great choice to play the hero (visually, at least) and when Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice hit theaters, pretty much no one had anything bad to say about his version of the character.

Unfortunately, the movie took an absolute pounding and the actor became a meme thanks to an interview which saw him dubbed "Sad Affleck." He clearly wasn't happy with the way things were going, but remained attached to direct a Batman movie he'd been writing with comic book scribe Geoff Johns and was lined up to appear in Suicide Squad

Still, he can't have been pleased about starring in a critical flop as it hurt his status as a director and was like Daredevil all over again.

 

A Pointless Suicide Squad Cameo



When set photos showed Batman chasing down The Joker and Harley Quinn, fans were extremely excited to see how that would play out in Suicide Squad. Unfortunately, his appearance there boiled down to an underwhelming car chase in which he never interacted with the Clown Prince of Crime and a far too brief battle with Deadshot which was a total disappointment. 

On the plus side, we did get a pretty cool mid-credits scene featuring Bruce Wayne and Amanda Waller.

The main problem was that Suicide Squad was another critical flop for Warner Bros. and while Batman's role was brief, this was another bad superhero movie (according to the critics, at least) that Affleck's name was attached to. It was at this point that he clearly started to grow frustrated with the role. 

 

Ben Affleck's Frustrations



"With Live by Night, it took me a year and a half to write and get ready, and I worked really hard and — it’s just, nobody gave a sh*t!," Affleck told Jimmy Kimmel when asked for an update on The Batman. "But with Batman, I keep on getting, ‘Where’s the f***ing Batman script?!’ I’m like, ‘Whoa — I’m working! Give me a second!'"

It seemed like the pressure was getting the best of him. Live by Night (which Affleck directed while shooting Batman v Superman and Justice League, thereby taking his attention away from that movie) was a critical disappointment and that really can't have helped. 

It was around this time that rumours about him being done with Batman after Justice League started gaining traction and it seemed as if his days as the hero might be numbered. However, fans held out hope because The Batman was still in the works. Well, not for much longer, unfortunately! 

 

The Batman Falls Apart



Affleck's version of The Batman would have pitted the Dark Knight against Joe Manganiello's Deathstroke and that was an idea fans could get on board with (especially with Johns contributing his comic book knowledge to the script). 

On January 30th, 2017, the actor issued the following statement about no longer directing the movie:


"There are certain characters who hold a special place in the hearts of millions. Performing this role demands focus, passion and the very best performance I can give. It has become clear that I cannot do both jobs to the level they require. Together with the studio, I have decided to find a partner in a director who will collaborate with me on this massive film. I am still in this, and we are making it, but we are currently looking for a director. I remain extremely committed to this project, and look forward to bringing this to life for fans around the world."

That was it for his version of The Batman but things still looked good because at least Affleck was going to team up with a new director to bring the movie to life, while still playing the Caped Crusader. Hell, he even declared at Comic-Con that, "I am the luckiest guy in the world, Batman is the coolest f***ing part in any universe." Matt Reeves was hired but things didn't go as we thought. 
 

Creative Differences?



Reeves quickly made it clear that he was not only making changes to Affleck and John's script; he was totally rewriting it from scratch. What was going to be an action movie along the lines of The Raid was to be transformed into a noir thriller and the director clearly had a different vision for how Batman's story should play out, hence why we started hearing rumblings about it being a prequel.

Whether or not Affleck's departure had something to do with creative differences behind the scenes is hard to say, but it really didn't feel like these two were ever on the same page and that when Warner Bros. hired Reeves, they knew he wanted to essentially reboot the character and take him down a more standalone path which isn't necessarily connected to the wider DC Extended Universe.

 

The Justice League Dilemma



We really don't need to recap what went wrong with Justice League again but the fact is, this was the third DC movie that Affleck starred in which was met with scathing reviews from critics. 

He can't have been happy with that and the writing was on the wall at this point.

Sure, we were hearing stories that he might play Batman one final time in Flashpoint to bring a close to his time as the character while a younger actor would take over in The Batman, but once that fell apart and Warner Bros. decided to focus on standalone story, it was apparent that it was simply a matter of time before it was made official that he would no longer be playing Bruce Wayne.

 

A New Batman



It feels like we spent all of 2018 sifting through rumours about who could be the next Batman and names like Jack O'Connell, Jake Gyllenhaal, and Richard Armitage continued popping up online. 

Nothing concrete was revealed, of course, and as far as we were concerned, Affleck was technically still attached to the role. His personal life was in disarray, though, as he re-entered rehab and clearly had more on his plate than playing a superhero again.

The trades and fansites weighed in but nothing was made official until earlier this week. 

 

Batman, No More



This week, The Batman got a release date: June 25th, 2021. It won't star Ben Affleck, though, and a new actor is being sought after by Matt Reeves. The movie will reportedly be a noir-type detective story that finally sheds some light on why the Dark Knight has been described as the World's Greatest Detective. 

We don't know if this will be a reboot, a prequel, or a standalone adventure unrelated to Justice League. However, after months of conflicting reports and rumours, we now know that Affleck is done as Batman and that's a shame because it's hard to escape the feeling that we missed something special here. 

Had things played out differently, we could have very easily seen his Batman on screen for years to come but it wasn't meant to be.

 

What Comes Next?



This is the million dollar question. As of right now, we simply do now know but the casting process for The Batman should begin soon and that means we'll find out who will be the new Bruce Wayne as well as the actors who will portray some of his most iconic villains (Reeves has said we're getting an entire rogues gallery). In terms of story details, you have to hope those are on the way too. 

Warner Bros. isn't shying away from saying that they're happy to make movies which don't set up a larger world, so chances are it won't tie into past releases and could even use a whole new cast of actors to play the likes of Alfred and Commissioner Gordon. 

What are your thoughts on the rise and fall of Batfleck? Share your thoughts in the comments section down below and stay tuned for more details as we have them.
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Nebula
Nebula - 2/1/2019, 6:24 AM
End of an era; Ben's on-again, off-again era.
knocturnalzen10
knocturnalzen10 - 2/1/2019, 6:29 AM
he actually was very decent in BVS , bit over the top with batman killing but i'll assume they went the full dark knight route. still better comparable to JL ..... they should focus being a detective and above average fighter in the next arc of films .
Kurne
Kurne - 2/1/2019, 6:30 AM
These have seriously been some of the worst 2 years of Affleck's public life. I really did feel bad for him during the Live By Night press tour.

Reporters were so desperate for clicks, even if it was something like Affleck eventually losing it and telling them to piss off (which he did). It was [frick]ing sad.
Forthas
Forthas - 2/1/2019, 6:30 AM
He went wrong when he took the job and Zack Snyder made the disasterous decision to move on from the Dark Knight films. EVERYONE saw this coming given the backlash but his pride and Zack Snyder's idiocy led to years of trash films that continues today!
99OPTIMISTPRIME
99OPTIMISTPRIME - 2/1/2019, 8:30 AM
@Forthas - Just to be clear, the continuity of the Dark Knight films, was never even on the table for Zack Snyder. Nolan was going to either give his Batman a heroic death, or a happy ending.
Forthas
Forthas - 2/1/2019, 4:39 PM
@WAKANDABATMANFOREVER - It WAS on the table. That is a LIE that Nolan somehow prevented it from continuing because...

1) Nolan advocated for a Catwoman spinoff (with a different director) ...meaning WB COULD expand on the universe he created.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2012/jul/12/anne-hathaway-dark-knight-rises

2) Zack Snyder ADMITTED it was his decision to not continue on with the Dark Knight films when he stated


THE GUARDIAN - MARCH 10, 2006

Snyder revealed he was initially encouraged by studio executives to recruit cast members from Nolan’s Batman trilogy but ultimately resisted the temptation.

“I was like, ‘Hey, come on guys, let’s all understand, it’s a different world.’ In the Batman universe that Chris Nolan created, Superman would have a hard time existing,” said the Watchmen director. “That’s why we did a reboot on the universe, so we could allow these characters to exist together. We needed to do that to have Batman exist in this world.”

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/mar/10/zack-snyder-envisaged-christian-bale-in-batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice
blitzburgh
blitzburgh - 2/2/2019, 4:06 AM
@Forthas - you had to move on from The Dark Knight films idiot cuz they wouldn't have fit in with the current DC narrative
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