JUSTICE LEAGUE Director Zack Snyder Reveals Why He Set Out To Avoid Pure Propaganda Of Superman And Batman

JUSTICE LEAGUE Director Zack Snyder Reveals Why He Set Out To Avoid "Pure Propaganda" Of Superman And Batman

BATMAN V SUPERMAN Director Zack Snyder Reveals Crazy Reason MPA Originally Gave The Movie An R-Rating
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FireandBlood - 8/23/2023, 12:09 PM
What a shit Batman
AmazingFILMporg - 8/23/2023, 12:52 PM
@PlusUltra -

Remember the whole *RIP Marvel* after the comic on trailer?😂

I member😅
FireandBlood - 8/23/2023, 1:04 PM
@AmazingFILMporg -

Fogs - 8/23/2023, 1:16 PM
@PlusUltra - Nah.

Snyder made many many manymanymany mistakes. But Batfleck wasn't one of those.

The man was a great bruce and bats. Wish he had good material to work with.
RogerWilco - 8/23/2023, 1:32 PM
@PlusUltra -
TheHumanSpider2 - 8/23/2023, 2:00 PM
@PlusUltra - Get the hell outta here
TheLobster - 8/23/2023, 6:12 PM
@PlusUltra - lol FOH he was great
philinterrupted - 8/23/2023, 6:15 PM
@AmazingFILMporg -
EgoEgor - 8/23/2023, 12:16 PM
#1 is him branding criminals so they'd get killed in prison.

I think he was definitely his best in the Flash film. Snyder gets the aesthetics of the character but not the morality unfortunately.
kylo0607 - 8/23/2023, 1:03 PM
@EgoEgor - How does Snyder get the aesthetics of the character with THIS?

Fat Fleck.

Snyder's Batman looked like he ate 5 foot long subway melts a day, for 6 months.
Fogs - 8/23/2023, 1:13 PM
@kylo0607 - Which is a shame cause in production photos he had way less padding. It was great.
RogerWilco - 8/23/2023, 1:45 PM
@kylo0607 - the real reason affleck left.....

The1st - 8/23/2023, 2:00 PM
@kylo0607 - That was drunk Fleck
FireandBlood - 8/23/2023, 2:35 PM
@kylo0607 -

TheLobster - 8/23/2023, 6:14 PM
@EgoEgor - he wasn’t branding them to get them killed. He was branding them and Lex was pulling strings to get those criminals killed so the narrative became that Batman was sentencing those criminals to death in order to provoke Superman to do something.
TheLobster - 8/23/2023, 6:15 PM
@kylo0607 - he doesn’t look fat and I’m sure he’s way more ripped than you lol

He looks like a brawler which is very much an incarnation of Batman in the comics. If you want skinny Batman then don’t worry you already got it - every. Single. Time. Lmao
EgoEgor - 8/24/2023, 3:22 AM
@TheLobster - That makes even less sense.

The way the wrote Lex has got to me one of the most cartoonish villain plans ever. Really, really forced.
TheLobster - 8/24/2023, 12:54 PM
@EgoEgor - how does that make less sense? Lex was trying to make Batman look like a madman executioner to Superman. He wanted both sides to look at the other with contempt.

Also; if you think that’s one of the most cartoonish villain plans then you must not watch a lot of comic book movies lol
EgoEgor - 8/24/2023, 2:02 PM
@TheLobster - dude. It's cartoonist.
1. Lex overeagerly introduces Bruce and Clark at a party, for absolutely no reason(should've been a red flag for a smart person like Bruce).
2. He sends letters to Bruce about a guy that was paralyzed by the Zod and superman fight, blows up the guy in court with Superman and sends a last letter to push Bruce over the edge into hating Superman.
3. Lex has Bat branded criminals killed in prison in the hopes that Clark will investigate Batman and see him as a killer, instead of Clark doing his job and writing a sports column like Perry tells him to.
4. He holds Marta Kent hostage to force Superman to fight Batman, who now hates Superman( at least Lex hopes), and hopes they don't talk at all but punch earth into oblivion.
5. After discovering kryptonite, he uses Zods finger prints and his own blood to create Doomsday so that he'd kill Superman if Batman doesn't.

And that's just from all I can remember, Lex was cartoonish as [frick].
PC04 - 8/23/2023, 12:17 PM
The Warehouse fight scene is THE BEST Batman has ever been on screen. So well done.
BillyBatson1000 - 8/23/2023, 12:27 PM
@PC04 - HAVE to agree. Fast, fluid, visceral. Made it look like someone could REALLY kick ass in a Batsuit - for the first time.
PC04 - 8/23/2023, 12:46 PM
@BillyBatson1000 - How do you feel about Pattinson? I did enjoy The Batman and how it leaned into the NOIR aesthetic and a Batman who uses his detective skills.
Fogs - 8/23/2023, 1:14 PM
@PC04 - Agreed.

Easily the best Batman action scene.
The1st - 8/23/2023, 2:00 PM
@PC04 - Yeah, so Arkhamesque
BillyBatson1000 - 8/23/2023, 2:27 PM
@PC04 - I think he's a much rounder actor than he's generally credited, taking smaller indie roles alongside bigger pay-deals. He looked focused and imposing in (his era's version of) the suit. The combat scenes were handled well; close range (Filipino) martial arts. I hope we see more of that in the sequel and more Bruce Wayne/Alfred, Bruce Wayne/Gordon relationship expansion. I don't think he's the type of actor who will 'hang around' if Warner Bros fails to get its act together - not even for more money/production control. Thing is, right now, I don't trust Warner Bros to do anything.
BillyBatson1000 - 8/23/2023, 2:29 PM
@PC04 - Also: to see Batman actually using his detective skills was a joy.
TheLobster - 8/23/2023, 6:15 PM
@PC04 - 1000000% agree
Doomsday8888 - 8/23/2023, 12:18 PM
Man they should've followed the Flashpoint comicbook storyline more closely for the Flash movie, could've had great moments with Jeffrey Dean Morgan as BaThomas but no...they had to use a gimmick so they pulled BatKeaton and then even Clooney.

Then again...instead of having a solo Bataffleck movie they went for discount Nolan-man, truly...WB deserves everthing that's coming at them.

P.S. Watched the 2 Ahsoka episodes, really enjoyed it, maybe there's hope for SW after all...
Th3Batman - 8/23/2023, 12:44 PM
@Doomsday8888 - "Instead of having a solo Bataffleck movie they went for discount Nolan-man."

Affleck was the one who walked away from the project, not WB. They made a lot of mistakes in the past, but that movie not moving forward wasn't their decision, it was Affleck's.
GhostDog - 8/23/2023, 12:19 PM
An awful take on Batman. The fact that not only does he kill a lot of people, but he never faces justice for it. He just starts going again like nothing happened. The guy is committing premeditated murder by proxy in the opening scene and gunning down goons all over the place. He kills so many people. And when he “regains his hope,” he doesn’t ever even dwell on the fact that he committed the very crimes he rose to stop and isn’t seeing justice for it.

Affleck went along with Snyder's vision but I always wonder what he would've done untethered to that. The suit was amazing though, I'll give Zack and his crew that.
The1st - 8/23/2023, 2:03 PM
@GhostDog - True, GCPD should very much have been going after him. If the league was a deterrent then we're getting into all kinds of Cadmus level JL/JLU stuff.
GhostDog - 8/23/2023, 2:06 PM
@The1st - Eiling would've been on Batman's ass

dracula - 8/23/2023, 12:21 PM
You know I love Batman. He has been my favorite superhero for as long as I can possibly remember

But the idea that he can beat Superman in a straight up fight is bullshit

He was weakened in Dark Knight Returns

In most comic fights, Superman is usually being controlled by a villain

Cant think of a time he has faced a full powered and in his right mind Superman

What makes the BVS fight even worst is that he just uses brute force.

When he fights superman under any circumstances he fights smarter not harder.
Doomsday8888 - 8/23/2023, 12:23 PM
Of course Batman can't beat Superman, but that makes for a boring ass story, so that's why you see the lil guy defeating God but otherwise, Batman doesn't stand a f*cking chance.

P.S. Superman was weakened by Kryptonite in BvS as well, i dunno how you missed that, lel.
Toonstrack - 8/23/2023, 12:56 PM
@Doomsday8888 - i mean the setup and execution just sucked throughout. People would forgive the fight more if everything else and it wss better.
AmySabadini - 8/23/2023, 12:22 PM
Ben Affleck was a great Batman and an even better Bruce Wayne. We were lucky to have him and we'll be very lucky if anyone bests his portrayal in the future.
Forthas - 8/23/2023, 12:23 PM
One of the first and worst mistakes DC films made and have never recovered from it!
Forthas - 8/23/2023, 12:28 PM
I understand why Batman v Superman did not make a billion dollars. After the magnificence that was Christian Bale's Batman, the studio chose to replace him with a “Punisher wannabe” who could barely fit in his suit and for some reason had super human strength. Everything Batman is NOT!
ModHaterSLADE - 8/23/2023, 12:31 PM
Actually liked his take on older Batman.
bobevanz - 8/23/2023, 12:41 PM
Blue Beetle was right, this Batman was absolutely a fascist lol. Too much of a good thing does exist
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