Former Warner Bros. Exec Believes Zack Snyder's DC Movies Were Undervalued By Critics Because He's Too Nice

Former Warner Bros. Exec Believes Zack Snyder's DC Movies Were Undervalued By Critics Because He's Too Nice Former Warner Bros. Exec Believes Zack Snyder's DC Movies Were Undervalued By Critics Because He's Too Nice

Greg Silverman oversaw movies like The Dark Knight and Man of Steel at Warner Bros., and he's now shared his thoughts on why critics didn't respond overly positively to Zack Snyder's DC Comics movies.

By JoshWilding - Jan 07, 2022 07:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Batman vs. Superman

Greg Silverman was once President of Production at Warner Bros. Pictures, overseeing a lot of big movies like The Dark Knight, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, and Suicide Squad. Control of the DC Extended Universe has since passed through several hands, but the producer clearly looks back fondly at the work he did in that world alongside filmmaker Zack Snyder.

Responding to a fan on Twitter, Silverman shared his thoughts on why the likes of Man of Steel and Batman v Superman didn't receive the sort of critical response they might have with another filmmaker at the helm.

"My suspicion always was that Zack’s kindness openness and enthusiasm created an environment for critics to undervalue his work," the executive pondered. "Because he is a decent approachable humble human, he didn’t fit the mold of an auteur. Shitty. Should be the opposite."

Silverman left the studio before the Joss Whedon-helmed version of Justice League was released, though as such a supporter of Snyder's vision, you have to wonder if things might have turned out differently had he stuck around. While it does often feel like a lot of critics have an irrational grudge against the director, there are probably more logical explanations for many of them not liking his work than the perception that he doesn't fit the mould of your typical auteur filmmaker. 

Then again, if you've seen the way some of those same critics conduct themselves on social media, you might find yourself wondering if Silverman might be on to something!

Do you think the odds have been unfairly stacked against Snyder after his contributions to the DCEU?

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PhoenixBlade - 1/7/2022, 7:18 AM
Why can’t anyone at DC accept some constructive criticism? They’re only listening to their loyal fans. It’s like anyone who worked on 50 Shades to be mad at the response because they have a group of passionate fans who say otherwise. Criticism isn’t negative, it’s a means to improve.
Origame - 1/7/2022, 7:32 AM
@SamaelSaint - constructive criticism like "f@#$ you, you ruined our childhood"? And yes, I am purposefully using the worst possible example considering that's exactly what you guys have been using with the Snyder fans.
PhoenixBlade - 1/7/2022, 8:03 AM
@Origame - Sure. Go and use fan responses when the article is about critical response. The films were poorly constructed, needlessly convoluted, thought they were way more intelligent than they were to a point people who liked them felt the need to explain things to people. Yeah we get that the message about the Martha scene, but it was poorly written. Man who never calls his mother by her name suddenly does so with zero context in hope man he doesn’t know, knows who he’s talking about. You really jumped to a silly point there.
PhoenixBlade - 1/7/2022, 8:05 AM
@Origame - And even the. “You ruined our childhood” is valid criticism. If a Winnie the Pooh film came out and he was a flesh eating bear who shits out honey, then yeah, the creators completely missed the point of Winnie the Pooh. Just as Snyder missed the point of Superman and Batman.
Origame - 1/7/2022, 8:16 AM
@SamaelSaint - you ruined my childhood is by no means valid criticism (namely the way you put it as "constructive criticism). Not only is it a ridiculous over the top jab at your movie, but in the context you're saying it's already ruined so there's no way to improve. Constructive criticism would be saying it could focus more on what the comics did. And while not necessary, finding a middle ground where Snyder's vision can still be there while being more accurate. Are you seeing the difference? My approach is showing a desire for him to improve. Aka, being CONSTRUCTIVE with my CRITICISM!
PhoenixBlade - 1/7/2022, 8:24 AM
@Origame - Most people said it was nothing like the comments. You’re being selective with a minority of angry fans. And again, the article not me, we’re talking about fans, but critics who mostly supply constructive criticism.
Origame - 1/7/2022, 8:30 AM
@SamaelSaint - it's almost as if there was a point in being selective with the angry fans I highlighted. How's about reading my comment again? It's hidden there, but if you do this crazy thing called READING!
philinterrupted - 1/7/2022, 8:47 AM
@Origame - you guys? You can’t boil all criticism down to the shitty ones.
I think Snyders DC movies after Man Of Steel are hot garbage. But in no way would I say it ruined my childhood. He didn’t time travel. Last time I checked my childhood still happened and I enjoyed it. Snyder just made some shitty movies with those characters.
Origame - 1/7/2022, 8:51 AM
@originalmrphil - that is literally my point. I'm criticizing how we've been acting here in regards to the Snyder fans by highlighting the worst of the Snyder haters. Personally I view the worst fans today being star wars fans for bullying an actor off social media. But even then I don't label all of that fanbase with those fans.
PhoenixBlade - 1/7/2022, 8:58 AM
@Origame - So pointless to just highlight the 1% of fans. In fact it’s ridiculous to even bother doing so. You just wanted to complain for the sake of it. You’re just as bad as them.
Origame - 1/7/2022, 9:06 AM
@SamaelSaint - yet that's exactly what this site has been doing with the Snyder fans. Which again, you would've known if you READ MY F@#$ING COMMENT!
dragon316 - 1/7/2022, 9:08 AM
@SamaelSaint - justice league was bad after seeing Snyder cut made it better
dragon316 - 1/7/2022, 9:15 AM
@originalmrphil - I take Snyder movies over whedon he made justice league kid friendly joke yeah I like to see Snyder movie with more rich color not use special filters I do like his movies dc movies eternals , captain marvel didn’t like, whedon justice league didn’t like after I saw Snyder cut made it better.,
How many times can fans see emotion in Superman face in movies not much Snyder prove there is more one way hurt man of steel show emotion in his face physically and emotional I’m no paid movie critic know nothing about acting and other crap I did have fun watching them.
His zombie movie could have been little shorter didn’t need be two hours
The1st - 1/7/2022, 9:47 AM
@SamaelSaint - Yeah, he started with the TDKR when he could have even started with BTAS or JLU and been ok.
Hulkh8liars - 1/7/2022, 9:51 AM
@Origame - he had many chances to improve. Haven't seen anything actually good from the guy since watchmen. Maybe constructive criticism is asking him to stop making films(though he won't listen)
Hulkh8liars - 1/7/2022, 9:56 AM
@Origame - how are you pretending Snyder fans get treated poorly here? This site is one of the biggest supporters of Snyder's work on the internet. Almost every day an article comes out on cbm that treats Snyder or his work as if they are infallible. They actually claimed zsjl was great on here. If anything this site is far too forgiving of his lazy ignorant writing
Hulkh8liars - 1/7/2022, 9:58 AM
@dragon316 - both directors suck but the theatrical avengers is at least watchable(though barely and only once), while the zs version just makes bad children's film a worse children's mini series
PhoenixBlade - 1/7/2022, 10:23 AM
@Origame - You replied to me as if to diminish my statement which was aimed at Snyder’s work, not him or his fans. It’s petty whining. I’ve read every word you’ve written and it’s all such nonsensical outrage at such a tiny percentage of people. All because you don’t like that some people dislike something you like.
Origame - 1/7/2022, 10:44 AM
@Hulkh8liars - thats called destructive criticism if anything. And f@#$ you for insisting any artist should just stop.
Origame - 1/7/2022, 10:47 AM
@Hulkh8liars - wtf are you talking about this is one of the biggest supporters of his work? We literally just had an article from one of the main contributors on this site arguing that its a good thing Snyder films are being stricken from the Canon, And the only objection people had to that was that the rest of the Canon should be thrown out as well. And that's on top of the people vilifying the fans of his work even in articles about how they literally started a fundraiser for suicide prevention.
Origame - 1/7/2022, 10:49 AM
@SamaelSaint - no, the aim was at you and all the others on this site who take shots at Snyder and his fans.
MG0019 - 1/7/2022, 11:03 AM
@Origame - I have never seen anyone use that for a Snyder film.

“Ruined my childhood” was for Star Wars, and Crystal Skull.
Origame - 1/7/2022, 11:48 AM
@MG0019 - thats the go to insult for any film based on an older established franchise. Come on.
philinterrupted - 1/7/2022, 12:00 PM
@dragon316 - Snyder definitely has an interesting visual style. But his story telling/writing is crap.
Army of the Dead movie was terrible. Man of Steel was genuinely good. But he just missed a great opportunity to continue that story with rushing to cram so many other story arcs into BvS and Justice League. So self indulgent.
Hulkh8liars - 1/7/2022, 12:47 PM
@Origame - many "artists" should just stop. Have you listened to the radio lately? I said "maybe" as in possibly or in some instances. All criticism is destructive to fant of said thing being criticized, while people who despise his writing might mean well when they tell him he should stop writing his films. You are not the authority on what makes productive criticism.
Hulkh8liars - 1/7/2022, 12:49 PM
@Origame - Most of the Snyder articles on here are very positive towards him. There is more negativity towards the mcu from many of the articles on this page. Searching through the sites past articles will confirm this. This is actually the only place I ever go to on the internet that is biased positively towards Snyder's comic film work
Origame - 1/7/2022, 12:56 PM
@Hulkh8liars - it is not productive at all to tell people to stop making art. Why do you guys think you're entitled to like every piece of art you see or hear, and if you don't it's the fault of the artist? If you're idea of productive criticism is to say they shouldn't make art anymore, than I'd tell you to just not criticize and instead avoid their art in the first place.

I may not be the authority on what makes productive criticism, but these words have meaning you know.
Origame - 1/7/2022, 12:58 PM
@Hulkh8liars - and no, they f@#$ing aren't. This site is basically an mcu fan site at this point, and Snyder is largely hated. I just gave one proving that's the case. Do you really not have any that you can prove showing positivity towards Snyder?
HannibalLecter - 1/7/2022, 12:59 PM
@SamaelSaint - This is a good example of Zack Snyder beitn "too nice"
Hulkh8liars - 1/7/2022, 1:10 PM
@Origame - after the haberdashery is done covering your glutes, you are welcome to pull your hips off of your shoulders and read through the published article history on this site to provide yourself with your own evidence debunking your own claims. I stated objectively that this site is more forgiving to Snyder that most of the internet(an article on this site called zsjl the best film of the year once). When you mention people who dislike his work you describe many but when you describe people with actual hate for the man you describe few. Large egos often conflate how passionately they feel of a thing with how true it is. In this instance you are the vocal minority. I suggest you own it rather than continue to let it own you
DrReedRichards - 1/7/2022, 1:16 PM
@Origame -

He said "articles", not "comments". And he's absolutely right on that front. The editors in here have been very, very forgiving of Snyder in an attempt to maintain balance between fandoms. It's unearned and promotes validation through mere existence, which in turn breeds a well-known by now sense of arrogance, but it makes perfect sense from a website's management point of view.

Try reading what the editors have to say in their articles next time, before you jump on the fans for voicing their criticisms; constructive or otherwise.
Origame - 1/7/2022, 1:22 PM
@Hulkh8liars - I brought up as many as you have. But unlike you I bring examples.
Origame - 1/7/2022, 1:23 PM
@DrReedRichards - I thought I blocked you. I'm rectifying that now.
DrReedRichards - 1/7/2022, 1:31 PM
@Origame -

Another case of ostrichism, as per freakin' usual...

PhoenixBlade - 1/7/2022, 1:55 PM
@Origame - Not taking shots at Snyder fans. Never have. I’m taking shots at you because you’re being a whining brat.
PhoenixBlade - 1/7/2022, 1:58 PM
@Origame - You need to get a grip of reality. Stop pointing fingers where there was no issue in the first place. You act as though the whole world is against you because some people dislike something you like. And newsflash someone disliking something you like is not an attack on your person. Gain some perspective.
PhoenixBlade - 1/7/2022, 2:03 PM
@Origame - I’ve seen you on this site, many a time attempting to bully people out of an opinion. Whether it’s their opinion of a film/show or politics. You’re someone who thinks it’s your way or no way. You dig your heels in and take everything personally. You read between lines that never had any hidden context, you assume that when someone makes a generalised comment that it’s an attack on you. You need to chill out. 90% of your comments are in outrage at opinions. Is it not tiring being angry all the time? Chill out, someone else’s opinions doesn’t change yours. So stop trying to force your agenda on people who aren’t forcing theirs on you. If you stop posting angry comments, you in turn stop getting angry. Think about it.
Origame - 1/7/2022, 2:15 PM
@SamaelSaint - never said you personally did. Just that this is the site you're on and this is what they do. But honestly, the fact you defended "you ruined my childhood" as constructive criticism definitely points in the direction that you are one of those people.

And I've proven that's true. It's there. You're the one losing your grasp on reality. Nor am I saying it is an attack, because I'm not a Snyder fan.

Finally, where have I bullied people? Where? Closest to bullying I've done is with people saying exactly the kind of comments I'm talking about. And I'm not gonna apologize for that. Bullying a bully doesn't sound bad to me.
Hulkh8liars - 1/7/2022, 2:34 PM
@Origame - You mentioned one example(the article about Snyder's movies being erased having little impact). I mentioned one example(cbm called zsjl the best film of the year).I claimed that most of the articles on this site mentioning Snyder are in support of him. Are you disputing that? There have been very few articles on this site directly criticizing him. There have been many praising him. These aren't opinions, and can be verified by searching through past articles. You are welcome to check. Many people don't like a thing you like... So what. The assumed attack across media on Snyder and his fans is just a few paranoid folks with persecution complexes unable to enjoy something while admitting that most do are welcome to disprove my claim by showing a disproportionate number of articles criticizing Snyder as opposed to praising his works, but you can not. I won't bother to respond to your comments to me again until you actually make a valid or falsifiable claim, or falsify anything I have stated. Your argument has a weak hand and should make like your namesake and fold. I call
PhoenixBlade - 1/7/2022, 2:42 PM
@Origame - You do it all the time. I don’t store screenshots. And you were aiming it at me you literally said so yourself. And defending an opinion doesn’t mean you share the opinion. I came up with a valid defence on how that opinion could hold weight. You’ve got nothing but snarky remarks because you take offence to every single word. You probably think the word ‘Paper’ is a hate crime.
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