COMICS: Axel Alonso Discusses The End Of AVENGERS VS. X-MEN And Teases Cyclops' Fate

COMICS: Axel Alonso Discusses The End Of AVENGERS VS. X-MEN And Teases Cyclops' Fate

Marvel's Editor-in-Chief Axel Alonso teases the ramifications of Avengers Vs. X-Men, and addresses fan complaints that the X-Men have been portrayed as the villains. He also comments on just how important the event is for the character of Cyclops.

By JoshWilding - Aug 18, 2012 02:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Comics
Source: Comic Book Resources

Avengers Vs. X-Men may have been hitting the #1 spot in terms of sales, but the reaction from fans and critics alike has been far more mixed. The story has been very uneven in terms of pacing and characterisation, and X-Men fans in particular have not been at all happy with how some of their favourite mutants have been portrayed. As the Phoenix casts its dark influence over the final two members of the Phoenix Five, it seems more and more likely that it will be Cyclops who dies at the end of the event; a real shame considering just how well his character has been developed over the last decade or so. In an interview with Comic Book Resources, Marvel E-i-C Axel Alonso addresses the conclusion of Avengers Vs. X-Men and reveals where he stands when it comes to Scott Summers. Also below is some preview art from AVX: VS #5, although you can find more of that (and the full interview) by clicking on the link at the bottom of the page.

On What We Should Expect From The Conclusion Of Avengers Vs. X-Men:

Sticking the landing is of utmost importance when you're doing a story of this scope. "Avengers Vs. X-Men" end caps eight years of stories and sets the table for the future of the Marvel Universe, so we paid close attention to the closing act. Right out the gate, we knew the general shape of the ending, but we wanted to stay flexible enough to incorporate surprises that came in the actual writing. Tony Stark's arc for instance – we knew its general shape, but what it eventually became, and what it set up for Iron Man’s future, even took us by surprise. The close of "AvX" is filled with "oh $%#!" moments that will have readers buzzing, but they’re all emotionally true.

The journeys these characters –Avengers and X-Men – have been taking for the past several years come to a close here. There’s redemption and disgrace, there’s a moment of sacrifice that will knock people back on their heels. "AvX" ends with seismic impact. It affects both the Avengers and X-Men. I won't say who lives or who dies, but both teams will reassess what they are, what they do, and how they do it. As for the individual players – there will be redemption, disgrace and sacrifice, and not everyone will get out alive. Some characters will reassess their place in the universe – literally – and some will have a lot of 'splainin' to do. Some will have regrets; others won’t. The fates of some characters might be controversial, but they will be emotionally true.


On How The Event Impacts Cyclops' Progression As A Character:

We're definitely pulling no punches when it comes to Cyclops. He plays a central role in this story, right down to the end. Cyclops has shouldered a huge burden for some time – and the Phoenix Force has tapped into a part of him that, well...I better shut up. [Laughs] Cyclops will always be my favorite X-Men character. When I first became X-Men group editor, the mutant population had been decimated by "House of M," and that was the starting point for my first summit. "Messiah CompleX" took the X-Men from no hope to some hope – literally – and Cyclops was central to everything. He elbowed aside Professor X to take control of the X-Men and became the uncontested field general that his dwindling race needed. The fact that Wolverine was willing to step aside and play lieutenant speaks volumes about their ongoing rivalry: Logan always knew Scott had "it" in him. It was alpha recognizing alpha. To guide his race back from the brink of extinction, Scott had to be willing to get his hands dirty, had to be willing to go to hell for the love of his people. There’s an element of tragedy to that, to be sure, but it is one definition of a hero.


On Fan Dissatisfaction That The X-Men Are Now Seemingly Being Portrayed As The Villains:

Fans root for whoever’s worldview they most relate to. Back when we did "Civil War," a majority of readers rooted for Cap – either because they shared his position or simply due to his underdog status – but Tony also had his share of backers. His methods were Machiavellian, but his position was always defensible, always understandable. The same is true for the X-Men in "AvX." I know there are people out there that are rooting for the X-Men – or rooting for what’s left of the Phoenix Five – because we hear from them all the time. Generations of readers continue to relate to the mutant worldview. Mutants have lived in a world that hates and fears them for some time now; while the Phoenix Five’s methods might be a bit excessive, there's a cheering section for them and guys like the Punisher that are willing to fight dirty to get the job done.


On Whether It's The Phoenix Force Which Has Made Them "Villains":

Are the X-Men – or the Phoenix Five – villains? Well, from what we’ve seen, the Phoenix Force appears to be a corruptive power that taps into something that's already there in its host – which explains why Namor, a certified hothead, went overboard so quickly. Are Cyclops and Emma doomed to walk down a similar road? Can the power be harnessed? Keep reading.






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spidey1610
spidey1610 - 8/18/2012, 3:17 AM
Professor X is going to die :'(
Cyclops is too insensitive and stoic to be a superhero
figuresmaniac
figuresmaniac - 8/18/2012, 3:41 AM
Didn't we see cyclops in the marvel now teaser pict?
TheDARKestKNIGHT
TheDARKestKNIGHT - 8/18/2012, 4:34 AM
We know Cyclops lives due to Marvel NOW teasers....Man I hope it won't be Professor X.

Just kill Emma.
ManThing
ManThing - 8/18/2012, 5:30 AM
Whatever happened to Gusto anyway? banned? Did he die of old age?
ZombieOverEasy
ZombieOverEasy - 8/18/2012, 5:49 AM
Professor X has taken more bullets than 50 Cent. I think it's going to be Emma. Haven't seen anything about her in anything for Marvel NOW. Poor Cyclops.
ATrueHero1987
ATrueHero1987 - 8/18/2012, 5:56 AM
I really think Emma isn't going to make it in the end.
Sparrowsabre7
Sparrowsabre7 - 8/18/2012, 5:59 AM
I thought someone said that the Cyclops in Marvel Now WASN'T Cyclops. I think it might be Daredevil. Would explain why his outfit's red, not blue.
Simonsonrules
Simonsonrules - 8/18/2012, 6:31 AM
For the past few years Alonso, Bendis, etc. have been telling us how the current "event" is the culmination of eight years, etc. That everything will be different afterwards. They've become parodies of themselves.

Why not publish every single issue as a "no. 1" and kill off every character at the end of the book? That's where they are headed.

This crap is just one more symptom of the end of the print comic book medium.
supermoore
supermoore - 8/18/2012, 6:37 AM
My hope for the conclusion to a series which has so far been pretty dreadful;

In the penultimate issue, Cyclops defeats Emma to absorb the entire phoenix force, but in the process Prof X is accidentally killed.

This shocks Scott temporarily back to his senses. It is explained to him by Hope and Tony Stark that they have figured out Hope's connection to the Phoenix Force, namely that she is to use up the force in re-igniting the x-gene in the human species, causing regular mutant births to begin again.

Realising that this is his final change to save his species, Scott kills himself, allowing the Phoenix Force to pass to hope and the redemption of the mutant species.

There's a possibility that somewhere in there Iceman, Beast, and Angel may be killed as well. Why? We already know that a new series featuring the original 5 X-Men is coming, with them bought forward in time. We also know that this is not going to be a temporary state of affairs. The Cyclops in the Marvel Now teaser may be a younger Scott Summers who remains in the Marvel Now era along with his fellow original X-Men.

Out of all this we would get the original X-Men relationships back, a fitting end for Scott Summer's story ark over the last decade, and the Phoenix off the table once and for all which is no bad thing.
CaptainObvious
CaptainObvious - 8/18/2012, 7:39 AM
Doesn't matter. If anybody dies, they will come back in a few months.
Boyle360
Boyle360 - 8/18/2012, 7:45 AM
Just kill Cyclops. He's such a dick.
OtakuPapi
OtakuPapi - 8/18/2012, 8:25 AM
@supermoore : Angel plays a very pivotal role in whatever they have planned with Kid Apocalypse so he wont die.And we have seen pics of Beast/Ice man post Avx. I doubt Prof.X will die he has faked it and done it too many times before.Emma may take the bullet though.The most interesting thing about this article is what he said about The Punisher ....apparently Frank agrees with The Phoenix Five and is going to view those that opposed them as enemies of humanity!
cyked
cyked - 8/18/2012, 8:27 AM
People always diss on Cyclops, but at least he's got character. He's as noteworthy a personality as Prof X or Magneto, and he doesn't waffle back & forth like Wolverine.

Who is Iceman nowadays? What the hell's going on with Angel? Are any of the New Mutants EVER gonna achieve the status of the REAL X-Men?

[IMO, the 'real' X-Men will always be Cyclops, Storm, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, Colossus, Banshee, Shadowcat, and maybe Sunfire for good measure.]

There are so many bland, disposable characters filling these books --- they need someone to be Who He Is without apologies, rhetoric, or flimsy writing.

As far as who bites it, my vote is also for Emma Frost.
She's been flirting and flaunting with Namor, Tony Stark, Sebastian Shaw even before the Phoenix got into her. Nowhere near as good for Slim as Marvel Girl ever was. Plus she's crossed the line and it looks like she has killed some people here recently.

I remember reading back in the day that John Byrne never really intended for Jean Grey to die.... but the editors said they HAD to kill her, cuz she blew up a star and killed 5 billion people. They couldn't let a hero kill folks and just walk away..... guess times were a bit different then, but I still think Frost is the loosest cannon who might need to be put away.

Supermoore has a really good take on how this might all wrap itself up.
ATrueHero1987
ATrueHero1987 - 8/18/2012, 8:39 AM
Cyclops has to stay.
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 8/18/2012, 9:12 AM
THAT PHOENIX FIVE VISOR AND MASK DEAL CYKE HAS IS PRETTY AWESOME, WAY BETTER THAN THAT X MARKS THE SPOT MASK AND VISOR..THAT IS A JOKE.
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 8/18/2012, 9:42 AM
DO WE HAVE TO CALL IT SNYDERITES? HOW ABOUT, SNYDERHEADS, SNYDEROIDS, SNYDERS, SNYDES...
Bodwulf
Bodwulf - 8/18/2012, 9:57 AM
I miss Gusto . Cannot believe he was banned. With all the hate that goes on, on this site. I have seen people put up KKK pics against all whites Racist rants against blacks. I have seen two people threaten to kill one anther to the point of posting their addresses and dareing the other to do it. Gusto as i remember just spouted funny quips and clever one liners. Only thing that usually gets you out for good is crashing the site.
I like the phoenixclops uniform BTW.
storyteller
storyteller - 8/18/2012, 11:02 AM
Honestly I have backed Cyclops for most of AVX. Captain America and Wolverine bring in a super powered group to take Hope by force if Cyke didn't let them take her.

When the P5 get their powers, they do nothing but good. But once again Cap attacks Utopia. I'm fine with coming up with a back up plan if the P5 went rogue. But they kicked the dog and are surprise it bit back.

Now I'm not backing the P5, I'm backing Cyclops. The other 4 were the worst people to receive the power. The Avengers use Wakanda as an example of Cyke gone mad even though he had nothing to do with it. Again the Avengers have no info and assume the worst and it's biting them in the ass.

His further attacks on the Avengers were about self defense. I see Cyke as the good guy whose at the end of his rope and his friends and allies are going "Either my way or your going down". They will not compromise, and so can't compromise.

I don't know if Cyke will survive this. Just because their a guy in Cyclops costume doesn't make it Cyke. We got a Thor clone running around, Daken once in the Wolverine costume for a year, and various black Spiderman.
iJackSparrow
iJackSparrow - 8/18/2012, 11:27 AM
@JayOh

How are you sure that the guy in the red costume is Cyclops?



It seems like red herring to me, this doesn't look like a visor at all. What if that guy is Charles Xavier and NOT Scott Summers?
ATrueHero1987
ATrueHero1987 - 8/18/2012, 11:30 AM
Again, it's been confirmed by Bendis that the guy in the red costume in the Marvel Now group shot is NOT Cyclops.
TrueBlue
TrueBlue - 8/18/2012, 11:31 AM
I know it's not a popular opinion, but I like Cyclops. He went too far in AvX when he got taken over by the phoenix. But I think he was trying to do the right thing leading up to it. Don't forget he's been trying to protect the last members of his race.

Also I think that the Void is influencing his actions. Which would explain some of his actions and paranoia.
iJackSparrow
iJackSparrow - 8/18/2012, 11:40 AM
I like THIS Cyclops.



And I'm sort of hoping that Phoenix Cyclops is going to die.
JohnnyKrypton
JohnnyKrypton - 8/18/2012, 11:51 AM
"...a real shame considering just how well his character has been developed over the last decade or so"

To each, his own. Cyclops' 'development' turned me off the X-books completely.
Shades
Shades - 8/18/2012, 12:24 PM
If they kill Cyke off, it's only a matter of time until they bring him back anyway. Sad but true. Deaths in comics just don't have as much impact anymore.
iJackSparrow
iJackSparrow - 8/18/2012, 12:25 PM
He is ALREADY back. From the past.
KingLing
KingLing - 8/18/2012, 1:25 PM
I don't think Professor X dies, I've seen him in an Astonishing X-men preview or something recently.
xstryker
xstryker - 8/18/2012, 4:16 PM
Snydermen?
ralfinader
ralfinader - 8/18/2012, 4:51 PM
Not going to be Cyke, Bendis has said part of the appeal of bringing back this version of Jean Grey was to see how Wolverine and Cyclops would react to this pre-pheonix version knowing what they know. I am betting either Frost or Magneto (saw some previews for post AvX Wokverine and the X-Men and Prof X is wandering the hall with Rachel).
BruceKent1
BruceKent1 - 8/18/2012, 7:21 PM
I really like the work they have done on Cyclops up until this point. He has always been my favorite X-man. I kinda hate how it is all ending up. I liked the direction his character was going. I hope he is redeemed. Maybe it will be the Void is the problem. Scott still has him in a cage in his mind yes?
ATrueHero1987
ATrueHero1987 - 8/18/2012, 7:32 PM
@ralfinader Yea, Magneto could die at the end of AvX. Who knows? Marvel might surprise us. I'm glad Cyclops will live through this. We might get Uncanny X-Men back soon.
Macksimus
Macksimus - 8/18/2012, 10:32 PM
I don't know why people are complaining about how the X-men are made out to be villains in AvX - THEY ARE THE VILLAINS. All they care about is their "species" rather than the greater good of everyone in general. They are selfish. And yeah I understand that the mutants have been through alot over the past couple of years, but you'd expect the X-men to let their struggles corrupt what they stood for. So much for that. It's time that these A-holes stop being MUTANTS and start being X-MEN.
Macksimus
Macksimus - 8/18/2012, 10:34 PM
EDIT:

I don't know why people are complaining about how the X-men are made out to be villains in AvX - THEY ARE THE VILLAINS. All they care about is their "species" rather than the greater good of everyone in general. They are selfish. And yeah I understand that the mutants have been through alot over the past couple of years, but you'd expect the X-men to NOT let their struggles corrupt what they stood for. So much for that. It's time that these A-holes stop being MUTANTS and start being X-MEN again.

cyked
cyked - 8/18/2012, 11:07 PM
This is interesting.

Ever since they were teenagers, the [original] X-Men have been hunted, hounded, disrespected, threatened, and vilified. They save the world time and again, but get none of the support that the FF or the Avengers get.

And what's worse, neither the FF or Avengers never make a public policy stance and get on the news and say, "Hey, everybody.... the X-Men are really good guys. They've saved you all dozens of times, and will continue to do so, so give em a break." So it sorta looks like all the other superheroes are sitting back allowing the X-Men to be scapegoats while they {the 'heroes'} bask in all the glory.

So these mutants are hunted, sometimes killed, decimated at Genosha and all but wiped out by the Scarlet Witch..... and Captain America and crew do absolutely nothing about it.

That's effed up.

And then, when there's this Hope girl and by her very birth it promises the resurrection of their entire species [which, ironically, is a continuation of the human species].... THEN Cap shows up and says "Hand her over.... I'm not asking..." Well I would have said F you, too.

And to top it off, the mutants get this godly power --- give everyone on Earth clean drinking water, free energy, tons of food and the means with which to grow it.... and the Avengers are steady bitching about it?
Hell yeah Cyclops should be wanting to kick their ass!

Mr. Fantastic had some good words to say about all this in the New Avengers # 29. That was the best character-driven book in the entire series so far.
cyked
cyked - 8/18/2012, 11:13 PM
Phoenix seems to magnify it's hosts' personality.
So naturally Namor and Frost and Magic are gonna act out. Colossus still had the heart of a poet and this was revisited time and again, even with the Phoenix power.
They are all just magnified versions of themselves.

This makes me look at the original Marvel Girl/Phoenix in a new light.

I'd say 3 of the 5 Phoenix's could be classified as villains, but they've all had villainous stuff inside em to begin with.

Cyclops is a general, and who doesn't yet realize that generals play for keeps.
ScionStorm
ScionStorm - 8/19/2012, 4:07 AM
Magnetic can't die! He needs to take the twins to a Dazzler concert. Spend some quality time with his grandchildren.
ScionStorm
ScionStorm - 8/19/2012, 4:07 AM
*Magneto
cyked
cyked - 8/19/2012, 11:48 AM
Cyclops is gay? You mean THE Cyclops?

The guy who married Madelyn Prior?
And Jean Grey?

Is this the same Cyclops who has had flings with Psylocke,
Lee Forrester and is currently hooked up with Emma Frost?

*whew!* Man, talk about stealth! He's good! :D
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