SPECULATION: Loki's Scepter is the Mind Gem

SPECULATION: Loki's Scepter is the Mind Gem

The CBM community seems to be torn on whether or not Loki's Scepter is or is not the Mind Gem. I will give my thought based on a few facts from the comics as well as the MCU. SPOILERS AHEAD ABOUT THE MCU Hit the jump to check out my theory...

Editorial Opinion
By IronMatt71 - Aug 12, 2014 08:08 PM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Comics
Source: Marvel Wiki

              After Thor: The Dark World, it was ultimately confirmed we were heading toward the Infinity Gaunlet storyline. We also knew that the Tesseract and the Aether are both Infinity Gems.  Then Guardians of the Galaxy arrived in theaters and it was reaffirmed that the Infinity Gems were indeed being introduced throught the MCU:
             1. James Gunn and Kevin Feige have both confirmed that the Orb in Guardians was in Power Gem. It, however, was purple and not red like its comic book counterpart. Kevin Feige has come out on numerous occasions and said the Gems would not match up with their comic sevles. Much speculation has gone into which Gems are which.
            2. After careful consideration, I believe that the Tesseract is indeed the Space Gem. It opened a wormhole to the other end of space to allow Loki and the Chitari to come through to Earth.  
            3. The Aether was a bit tougher to decide, at first I believed it was the Power Gem. After rewatching Thor: TDW about ten times since its Blu-Ray Release (and some online studying) I noticed that the Aether acts for itself. The Asgardians also refer to it as a singlar entity. During my research, the Reality Gem is thought to be most unstable and seeks out a host. In Thor: TDW the Aether seeked out Malekith and eventually Jane. The entire plot to the movie was about breaking down the walls of reality with the Aether, so it has to be the Reality Gem.
        
            That would make Three Gems clearly identified and spread out across the MCU with the Collector given the Aether(Reality), Asgard protecting the Tesseract( Space), and the Nova Corps protecting the Orb (Power). That would leave us earthlings with nothing to protect, that is where my theory comes into play. What if Loki's Scepter is indeed the Mind Gem?
             1  Let us start with the obvious, at the beginning of The Avengers, Loki took control of Hawkeye and Dr. Selvig's mind with his scepter. That is the most basic function of the Mind Gem. 
              2. Later on in the film, Loki uses it to transport his mind to the Sancatury for a meeting with The Other. He refences that someone put the scepter in Loki's hands. The quote went "You dare question him? He, who put the scepter in your hand."  Another function of the Mind Gem is that it can munipulate ones dreams as well as their thoughts. Who is to say Thanos wouldn't give Loki his one and only Infinity Gem in hopes of him bringing back a second in the Tesseract( Space)? The entire plot of Loki's scheme was to retrieve the Tesseract and use it to bring the Chitari to earth. Once Loki had become King of Midgard, he would give The Other and eventually Thanos the Space Gem. He would probably need to give the scepter back as well, but we never found out because Loki lost, but more on that later.
            3.(& 4.) On two occasions the scepter manipulates minds of the Avengers. The obvious was Hawkeye and Selvig. Hawkeye even mentions to Widow that it felt like he had his mind plucked out and something else put back in. This was obviously the control from the Mind Gem. How do you think Hawkeye found the Hellicarrier? The Gem lead him to it. The the other occasion is a little more subtle. As the Avengers are beginning to fight just before Hawkeye blows up the engine on the Hellicarrier, Bruce is seen holding the scepter as he is yelling at Fury. My theory is that the Loki and the Mind Gem were manipulating Bruce to Hulk out, which he eventually did. This would give reason for why he had control the second time he Hulked out in the final act, but not the first time. At the end of the movie, we do not see what happened to the scepter as the last person to have it was the Widow, so it is implied it is with SHIELD.
             5. That is case until the Captian America: The Winter Soldier. Hydra has infiltrated SHIELD at its highest level and has full and complete control. This includes everything in their position including Loki's scepter, which is confirmed to be in Baron Von Struckers' position in the post credits teaser. Joss Whedon, Kevin Feige and Aaron Taylor Johnson have confirmed that Wanda and Pietro Maximoff volunteer for these Hydra experiments. This leads me to believe they are using the scepter to manipulate abilites. In my research, I found that the Mind Gem can increase mental abilities in the form of Psoinic powers. Guess who has telekenetic powers? The Scarlet Witch does. They could take a few liberties with the Gem to also give super human speed but is that a coincidence or what? If and when Von Strucker uses the scepter to give Pietro and Wanda abilties, this should all but confirm this is indeed the Mind Gem. This would also give way to my next point to about Loki and his scheme impersonating Odin. 
               There are two major theories out there, one where Loki is still working for Thanos as he impersonates Odin or the one I believe which is Loki lost the battle of New York and is Running scared. At the end of the Avengers, he was all too eager to give up and turn himself into the Avengers. " I'll have that drink now"......He lost to the Avengers and Thanos is pissed. He was perfectly happy in prison hiding from Thanos, before Thor broke him out. Loki , then, fakes his own death and is now impersonating Odin. This is all one big scheme to make sure Thanos thinks he is dead until there is a time he can make amends to Thanos for having lost the battle at New York.  Thanos has clearly moved on to and from Ronan in his search for the Gems. If the scepter is the Mind Gem and Loki lost both it and Tesseract.  Loki would need to make up for it in a big way, maybe....THE GAUNLET AND TESSERACT(space), which are both safely in the vault in Asgard. Again this is all just speculation, but is truly interesting, isn't it? Can't wait to see what clues Avengers Age of Ultron gives us....Give me your thoughts in the comments below....THANKS (Sorry tried to embedd images but I suck at it)

 

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PAF
PAF - 8/12/2014, 9:22 PM
Great article. I always believed Loki's scepter was the Mind Gem.
Wallymelon
Wallymelon - 8/12/2014, 10:22 PM
I agree. I think Loki is bidding time with Thanos.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/12/2014, 10:29 PM
I didn't think it was any big secret that Loki was controlling Banner with the scepter in Avengers. I mean, it was pretty obvious. Banner started acting strangely and then suddenly had the scepter in his hand.

Also, when they were all arguing Black Widow pretty much tricked Loki into admitting that he allowed himself to be captured because he had some plan for the Hulk.

I never questioned why Hulk wasn't in control on the helicarrier because it was blindingly obvious that he was under the scepter's control.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/12/2014, 10:32 PM
I agree with SniktBub though.

I don't want the scepter to be the Mind Gem simply because it is so weak. It has to actually touch someone to take them over. When compared to the other gems, that is incredibly weak.

CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/12/2014, 10:34 PM
And again, like SniktBub said, mind control is like Loki's most basic power. He's known for using that. Ithink the scepter os just an extension of his powers.
NovaCorpsFan
NovaCorpsFan - 8/13/2014, 4:45 AM
It's not because Guardians of the Galaxy actually showed us that the gems do not double up on one colour! There is a red, blue, yellow, purple, orange and green stone. That means we have only seen three of the stones so far!
PAF
PAF - 8/13/2014, 7:46 AM
Just because Loki has hypnosis in the comics does not mean he has it in the MCU. Just like the gems don't follow the right colors from the comics. Things change for the films. Everyone should know that by now.
Odin
Odin - 8/13/2014, 8:01 AM
What if Thanos' connection to Avengers:AOU is that he told Baron Von Strucker how to do whole "giving the twins their superpowers" process, they could communicating via Mind-gem/stone.
Odin
Odin - 8/13/2014, 8:03 AM
Also, the Infinity Stones in moves don't seem to be as powerfull as Infinity Gems in comics. They are clearly the most powerfull single objects in cosmos, but I doubt if they actually grant true omnipotens as in the comics.
Abary
Abary - 8/13/2014, 8:33 AM
@NovaCorpsFan

Guardians Of The Galaxy also revealed that each stone was roughly the same size and shape, which the Tesseract was not. It's probably a casing for the real stone similar to how the orb held the power stone.

And every excuse for why it isn't can be proven wrong.

"Loki had mind control in the comics though..." But he may not in the movie, sine that has never been shown in the films before. Not everything from the comics is in the movies, and we are all well aware of that at this point.

"Why would Thanos give it away?" Because he likely either had two or he was working close with someone who had another one. If the sceptre is the mind gem, that means there are only two left to introduce, and one of them will likely be with the Inhumans or with another being, like Adam Warlock. Thanos probably has more than one.

"Kevin Feige said it wasn't." Yeah, when, 2012? They always make stuff up to keep us guessing.

"It's not strong enough." The whole reason it's in a sceptre is probably to contain it. It wasn't even the main focus in Avengers! Give them time to show more of it in Age of Ultron!

Besides, it is too confusing and too pointless to introduce a new gem that has the exact same power as this. And also, we've got every major group/important being so far possessing a stone. One is with the Nova Corps, another is with the Collector on Knowhere, another is with Asgard, so it make sense for another to be with Hydra. I doubt that by the end the same place will have two of them, they need to be spread out among different people.

yossarian
yossarian - 8/13/2014, 9:06 AM
What does @pasto think?
NovaCorpsFan
NovaCorpsFan - 8/13/2014, 9:29 AM
I give up on speculation.
sKeemAn
sKeemAn - 8/13/2014, 9:44 AM
I dont think its the mind gem. I expect that gem to be a lot more powerful. Unless the Scepter was somehow containing the power keeping from controlling the entire planet.
BatmanHeisenberg
BatmanHeisenberg - 8/13/2014, 12:18 PM
It is said in the movie that the scepter is powered by the tesseract.
IronMatt71
IronMatt71 - 8/13/2014, 2:23 PM
@batmanheisenberg

The exact quote is "It works an awful lot LIKE a hydra weapon" When Selvig says "it can't fight itself" is referring to the Infinity Gems. We should know for sure after Avengers: AOU
McGee
McGee - 8/13/2014, 11:18 PM
BrowniesExplode
BrowniesExplode - 8/14/2014, 9:17 PM
I think it is guys. I'm watching The Avengers now and looking closely at the Tesseract. I saw the the glow inside is white.Now that I think about it Marvel needs to clarify what the blue thing in Loki's specter. Also I just thought about Gotg where the Collecter explains the stones none were white.
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