Will The Superhero Bubble REALLY Burst Soon?

Will The Superhero Bubble REALLY Burst Soon?

With increasing talk of when the "bubble" will burst and we'll all get tired of superheroes punching things, I present my argument as to why we're fine, for now...

Editorial Opinion
By SpoonySpoon - Jun 01, 2015 04:06 AM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Comics

Will The Superhero Bubble REALLY Burst Soon?

 

 

 

It seems almost impossible to have a big budget superhero movie come out without every pundit with a MacBook smugly blogging about how the “superhero bubble” will burst soon, quoting Wikipedia’s list of comic book movies by year as proof that we as a planet will eventually get tired of watching superheroes punch things. And while I can’t say with definitive certainty that we never will, I think these people are missing the point. The key to the argument that one day Hollywood will say “That’s it, we’re done!” and drop superhero movies out of their lineups is as follows:

 

All it takes is a big flop to crash the market.

 

Comic book movies are notoriously expensive, averaging from $100 million to $250 to make. Studios expect to make 2 dollars at the box office for every 1 they spend, meaning a movie that costs $200 million to make and $100 million for marketing needs to haul $600 million globally to break even, which is immense pressure on a movie. It can mean less risks, it can mean excessive focus groups to make sure it appeals to as many people as possible, potentially harming the quality of the movie. We’ve seen it with Spider-Man 3, studio interference meddled with Sam Ramie’s vision because they’d pumped so much goddamn money into it, and ended up ruining the movie. And all it takes is a few big budget movies to flop completely, and studios will start to scale back on their comic book efforts.

 

The problem is that studios are increasingly spending more in debut movies: they don’t even know how the movie will be received because it’s the first time they’re doing this, but they feel the need to spend $200 million on it anyway. Comic book movies should provide a safer bet as they already have a built-in fanbase, but even if every comic book geek buys a ticket, it’s often not enough to pay off the humongous budget. The mega-budget movie should be the sequel, not the original. If a movie does well it’s a sign that you can reasonably spend more on the sequel and make it back. Notice pre-Avengers, the only movie to cost more than $150 million was Iron Man 2, which got a significant budget increase, but with it came lots more studio interference because hey, $200 million is a lot money to gamble! The success of all those movies led Marvel to really push the boat out and spend big on The Avengers. And now $200 million is the average for Phase 2 movies, even GOTG was given that kind of money, relying on the tag “from the studio that gave you The Avengers!” to sell it. What happens in Phase 3, will $240 become the norm? While Marvel haven’t had a flop yet in their impressive 11 movie streak, nothing is too big to fail.

 

But…

 

Well, we’ve already had some of the biggest flops in movie history happen since the year 2000, and comic book movies are no exception. Green Lantern, RIPD and Superman Returns are examples of films that did not make back the exorbitant costs it took to make them, and yet they haven’t killed the genre. Just as the 2003’s failed Peter Pan movie hasn’t stopped no less than 3 studios feverishly working on their own Peter Pan movie. Looking at the list of box office bombs, a clear theme is studios pumping huge budgets into first-time movies in hope that they all hit big and net a massive income. The Lone Ranger was a radio show your grandfather used to listen to, and John Carter was a sci-fi novel from the early 1900s you never heard of, yet Disney felt it was appropriate to spend $250 million on each movie. It was a ballsy risk, and it didn’t pay off. The movie Battleship made $300 million, which is astonishing for a movie based on a goddamn board game, I don’t care how much Liam Neeson you put in it. Unfortunately, the movie cost around $220 million to make, plus marketing, meaning the movie lost money by not making twice it’s budget back. 

 

The message isn’t as much about superhero films flopping, it’s that studios need to learn the old adage “you’ve got to spend money to make money” isn’t holding up. And while that does apply to comic book movies, it’s a lesson the entire movie industry needs to take on board.

 

Okay, so we’ve looked at their failures, now look at their successes.

 

Avengers (1&2), Transformers (all of them), Iron Man 3, The Dark Knight, the list of highest grossing movies is teeming with comic book adaptations. Hell, I’d argue that even entries like Harry Potter and LOTR movies should be included given their fantasy nature. And hell, if Furious 7 isn’t a superhero movie I’ll eat my hat, and it’s currently 4th on the list of highest grossing movies. The proof is in the pudding, people, audiences are loving it. The point is that though comic/superhero/fantasy movies have had their share of flops, their successes outweigh them several times over. Over 20 of the highest grossing movies have come about since 2010, and yet all I hear are people whinging that “nobody pays to see movies any more!” quoting figures that show attendance being down. Well, the numbers don’t lie, more movies are joining the billion dollar club now than they were 10 years ago, that’s a fact. Perhaps the explanation is that there used to be lots of movies making a decent profit, and now we have 1 big movie making all of the profit, it still doesn’t correlate to this idea that we’re all getting tired of seeing big budget movies and flat-out refusing to see them. Disney has been pumping out princess cartoons for 60 goddamn years and their biggest hit ever came only 2 years ago with Frozen. Another explanation is the rise of international markets, meaning deals like Transformers 4 made with China or Avengers 2 made with South Korea to pander to rising markets. Whatever the weather, there’s no better time to be making superhero movies, so why are we pissing on studios for doing exactly that?

 

In conclusion, of course this can’t go on forever: sequels can’t keep increasing their profits until we see Avengers 4 making $4 billion at the box office, but as long as studios keep their spending in check, there’s been little evidence to suggest this train is slowing down. Choo choo!

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VictorMancha
VictorMancha - 6/1/2015, 5:21 AM
Where are your pictures?
TheBritAvenger
TheBritAvenger - 6/1/2015, 5:22 AM


Listen to this guy. He knows what's up.
CombatWombat
CombatWombat - 6/1/2015, 6:22 AM
You know I was watching The Magnificent Seven just the other night, and it made me think of this exact same thing. I honestly don't think the bubble will *burst* but it'll certainly deflate at some point. I feel like nowadays is kind of the heyday for superhero movies, just like how the 1950's/1960's was the heyday for Westerns.

Westerns aren't made in such an abundance anymore, but they're still around, they're still a respected genre, and they're still FAIRLY popular...
Kurban
Kurban - 6/1/2015, 9:13 AM
idk The Amazing Spider-Man 2 didn't pop the bubble. Fantastic Four probably won't pop the bubble.
ThedamnBatman
ThedamnBatman - 6/1/2015, 9:49 AM
we'll be having CBMs till [frick]ing 2020, so after that I really don't care if we only get back to getting 1 or 2 movies per year, I'd have my satisfaction big time by then
ThedamnBatman
ThedamnBatman - 6/1/2015, 9:51 AM
These are all the upcoming movies, and I bet there are some who aren't even announced like a Batman or Superman solo movie, or more spider-man solo's. So yeah, I'd be totally fine after these movies if the superhero bubble "bursts"...

2015:
July 17: Ant-Man
August 7: Fantastic Four (Fox)

2016:
February 12: Deadpool (Fox)
March 25: Batman V Superman: Dawn Of Justice
May 6: Captain America: Civil War
May 27: X-Men: Apocalypse (Fox)
August 5: Suicide Squad
October 7: Gambit (Fox)
November 4: Doctor Strange

2017:
March 3: Untitled Wolverine sequel (Fox)
May 5: Guardians of the Galaxy 2
June 2: Fantastic Four 2 (Fox)
June 23: Wonder Woman
July 28: Marvel Studios co-produced Spider-Man film (Sony)
November 3: Thor: Ragnarok
November 17: Justice League, Part 1
Unscheduled: Bloodshot (Valiant/Sony)

2018:
March 23: The Flash
May 4: Avengers: Infinity War, Part 1
July 6: Black Panther
July 13: Untitled Fox Mystery Marvel film
July 20: Spider-Man Animated Feature (Sony)
July 27: Aquaman
November 2: Captain Marvel

2019:
April 5: Shazam
May 3: Avengers: Infinity War, Part 2
June 14: Justice League, Part 2
July 12: Inhumans

2020:
April 3: Cyborg
June 19: Green Lantern
sKeemAn
sKeemAn - 6/1/2015, 11:01 AM
i think the general population know whats entertaining. When I go to the movies i want to be entertained. Over the top action, and plots not too deep but good enough to drive the movie forward are whats popular now. Plus most of the general pop watching these movies are young adults. They ususally dont have that long of an attention span.
Dingbat
Dingbat - 6/1/2015, 11:09 AM
The bubble will burst when they stop being good. If we have like 5 shitty ones in a row.
RextheKing
RextheKing - 6/1/2015, 1:34 PM
The bubble will never burst. There are so many comic books, comic characters, comic genres, comic storylines, comic themes, comic tones, etc, that leaves millions of different takes the chm genre can make.
MrJedabak
MrJedabak - 6/1/2015, 7:39 PM
You can only have so many movies a year before a lot of them start to suck. Even if Marvel has done some good movies, a lot of them haven't been so good. That combined with the fact that Star Wars, Jurassic Park, Terminator, all these big franchises are coming back, people will just get tired of the same thing over and over again.

You can't expect to have 20 superhero movies being released a year and have the audience go to every single one of them.

It's not the superhero bubble that will burst. It's the entire Hollywood big budget studio system that will implode. Not yet, though, but in a few years. My guess is around the time Infinity War is released.
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