Christopher Nolan Says The Shift To Streaming Is What Led To The SAG-AFTRA Strike

Christopher Nolan Says The Shift To Streaming Is What Led To The SAG-AFTRA Strike

Oppenheimer and The Dark Knight Rises director Christopher Nolan explains why he thinks the studios' desire to cut into Netflix's profit margins ultimately led to the SAG-AFTRA strike.

By MarkJulian - Nov 08, 2023 07:11 PM EST
Filed Under: DC Studios
Source: Variety

For quite a while, Netflix was the only streaming game in town. 

However, big Hollywood studios like Warner Bros., Disney, and Universal, soon came to the conclusion that they ought to stop supplying Netflix with content and instead, become its competition.

Yet, if you examine corporate financial reports and listen to earnings calls, it appears that new streaming services such as Max, Disney+, and virtually every other streaming newcomer are struggling to make a profit.

And according to well-documented cinema enthusiast Christopher Nolan, this shift in strategy is what heavily contributed to the current, ongoing SAG-AFTRA strike.

In a new interview with Variety, Nolan stated, "Part of the craziness with the labor negotiations this summer has been the studios sitting there and going, ‘Well, we can’t pay you because we don’t have enough money'. To which the answer is ‘Well, you don’t have enough money because you’re not managing your business correctly. You’re not getting the same amount of money for your product that you were before.’ The shift to streaming has disrupted the entire industry and created problems for everybody."

And it seems like the different Hollywood studios are beginning to have the same doubts as Nolan. More and more, you read about TV shows and movies disappearing from studio-owned streaming platforms and eventually showing up on Netflix.

Just recently, it was announced that a number of DCEU films would be leaving Max for Netflix.

It will be interesting to see if the final outcome for the great streaming wars of the current decade is a return to the original business model of licensing content to Netflix.

And just today, Disney revealed that its streaming outlet, Disney+ had recently lost $387 million in Q4 alone.

Disney CEO Bob Iger stated that he's not ready to follow Warner Bros. Discovery's lead and start licensing its big franchises to Netflix again (i.e Marvel and Star Wars) but they'll start licensing their other properties.

Said Iger, "We’ve actually been licensing content to Netflix, and are going to continue to. We’re actually in discussion with them now about some opportunities, but I wouldn’t expect that we will license our core brands to them. Those are real, obviously competitive advantages for us and differentiators."

"Disney, Pixar, Marvel, Star Wars, for instance, are all doing very, very well on our platform, and I don’t see why, just to basically chase bucks, we should do that when they are really really important building blocks to the current and future of our streaming business." 

However, if Disney+ keeps losing the company such huge sums of money, don't be surprised if Iger changes his tune.

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MrDandy
MrDandy - 11/8/2023, 7:32 PM
Duh.
Comicmoviejunki
Comicmoviejunki - 11/8/2023, 8:57 PM
@bobevanz - HELL YEAH!!! Now can we get more mediocre stories written.
mountainman
mountainman - 11/8/2023, 7:34 PM
He’s got a point. The streamers have thinner profit margins than traditional TV, movie theaters or movie/show sales. While many of us consumers do appreciate the unlimited access at a relatively low monthly price, it does mess with how all the numbers work out in the industry.

I don’t know if that residuals clause is still in what the union is asking for, but there is no way the studios cave to it. There isn’t enough profit built in for it. If it does happen, expect prices to go up.

I imagine that streaming is going to have to change - either higher monthly rates or commercials - in order to be viable long term. It was fun while it lasted.
MarkJulian
MarkJulian - 11/8/2023, 7:47 PM
@mountainman - It’s not going to last. Youre going to see more streaming platforms merge or fold altogether.
mountainman
mountainman - 11/8/2023, 7:49 PM
@MarkJulian - The minor ones for sure. Amazon and Apple can afford their losses due to profit from other sides of the business, but the studio specific ones are going to struggle.

There was a boom for a few years but we are past that now.
JDL
JDL - 11/9/2023, 12:28 AM
@mountainman - I'm not sure boom is the right word. Barring a complete collapse of the cable system* there was only enough room for 2-3 monthly fee type services (imo) in the first place. Netflix was already extablished and Disney was the first past the next post. After that nobody had quite enough to get it done. Max coming the closest. I understand you merger reasoning but I susoect what will happen is more cross platform licensing which goes along a similar vein.

*no monthly cable bill other than a small one perhaps for the major networks would free up a lot of cash to sub to more streamers and Only Fans. Ooops.
JDL
JDL - 11/9/2023, 12:40 AM
@mountainman - I'm not sure boom is the right word. Barring a complete collapse of the cable system* there was only enough room for 2-3 monthly fee type services (imo) in the first place. Netflix was already extablished and Disney was the first past the next post. After that nobody had quite enough to get it done. Max coming the closest. I understand you merger reasoning but I suspect what will actually happen is more cross platform licensing which goes along a similar vein.

*no monthly cable bill other than a small one perhaps for the major networks would free up a lot of cash to sub to more streamers and Only Fans. Ooops.
santoanderson
santoanderson - 11/8/2023, 7:48 PM
The SAG Aftra strike just ended. It’s over.
MarkJulian
MarkJulian - 11/8/2023, 8:12 PM
@santoanderson - Just as My Time To Shine predicted!
bobevanz
bobevanz - 11/8/2023, 8:23 PM
@MarkJulian - .... lol
bobevanz
bobevanz - 11/8/2023, 8:23 PM
@MarkJulian - he's like Dave Meltzer, if I didn't end then he'd say things change lol
MrDandy
MrDandy - 11/8/2023, 7:49 PM
Also news just broke they reached a deal. Thank god. I’m hopeful the actors and writers got what they were looking for.
mountainman
mountainman - 11/8/2023, 7:52 PM
@MrDandy - There are still a few votes needed to finalize it, but it sounds like SAG-AFTRA got a lot of what they wanted and I’m sure it’ll go through.
Forthas
Forthas - 11/8/2023, 7:53 PM
There needs to be a consolidation back to the three main network model where major studios, streaming and television compete on a fairly fair playing feild.

_Fox, Disney, and HHulu
-NBC, Universal, and Netflix
-Viacom, Warner Brothers/Paramount and Max

This would reduce the need for steaming services to rely on one income stream, reduce the option overload that consumers face and focus various related content along various mediums.
JDL
JDL - 11/9/2023, 12:06 AM
@Forthas - There is no way to do that legally unless maaaayyybbbeeee you can succesfully employ the going-concern- principle and that's iffy as hell.
Forthas
Forthas - 11/9/2023, 6:15 AM
@JDL - What is the legal impediment for that t happen. There would be no monopoly, the three entiites wod be roughly the same size with similar Market share. The ONLY issue is the Fox Disney option because Disney owns ABC station and Fox also has local stations. The easy fix is to dump all of the ABC or Fox local stations onto a smaller media company like Nexstar.
JDL
JDL - 11/9/2023, 2:59 PM
@Forthas - "What is the legal impediment for that t happen. There would be no monopoly, the three entiites wod be roughly the same size with similar Market share. The ONLY issue is the Fox Disney option because Disney owns ABC station and Fox also has local stations. The easy fix is to dump all of the ABC or Fox local stations onto a smaller media company like Nexstar."

The FTC does not enforce the law just on monopolies, it also goes after oligopolies and anything quite frankly that severely contracts the number of major players. What you propose does exactly that in 2 of the three cases. I think NBC, Universal, and Netflix might skate by as its streamer isn't a huge impediment but imo the FTC would try anyway. It's just in that case they might not succeed.

1) Nobody is going to buy the Fox or ABC networks unless either ads come back or Amazon/Apple takes the plunge. Even then the Murdochs or Disney would have to want to sell and I really doubt they do.

2) Viacom, Warner Brothers/Paramount and Max represent unacceptable studio consolidation. The FTC would go ballistic on this one.
JDL
JDL - 11/9/2023, 8:49 PM
@Forthas - Argh ! finally remembered. The FTC's first litmus on consolidating is; will this merger reduce competition ? I would be surprised if any of your 3 mergers would pass that test.
Forthas
Forthas - 11/9/2023, 10:32 PM
@JDL - Here is the thing. Other than Disney, the other two studios can argue that the government allowed their competitors to grow through merger with the Disney/Fox deal. It would be unfair to disallow other studios to do the same. The case could be made that the government is playing favorites. Having three choices versus five does not mean there is no competition. There is also samller studios like Lionsgate and A24. There are other streamers like Amazon and Apple and there are other broadcast networks like Nexstar and Entertainment Studios.
JDL
JDL - 11/10/2023, 12:47 AM
@Forthas - No they can't. Fox had announced they were going out of the studio business. That opened the process up and shut the FTC out as the going-concern-assumption was no longer valid. Now were that to happen again then something could happen which is why I brought it up in the first place.

BTW you left Sony out of this and they are a major player these days.
PeterDarker121
PeterDarker121 - 11/8/2023, 7:56 PM
Ironically, the AP and NYT are reporting just NOW that a deal has been reached and the strike is over
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 11/8/2023, 7:58 PM
Just pass those costs down to the consumers, I'm sure we're all more than happy to pay $200/mo for our various subscriptions.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 11/8/2023, 8:04 PM
@Ryguy88 - Eventually the term cord cutters will change into stream cutters and the studios will switch to physical media releases again. It's all a cycle.
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 11/8/2023, 8:45 PM
@SonOfAGif - lol exactly
StSteven
StSteven - 11/8/2023, 8:23 PM
Hey OT but since I haven't seen it posted here yet, here's the first trailer for the new Ghostbusters movie:



***POSSIBLE SPOILERS***

To quote Janine: "Yes, we're back." 😊
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 11/9/2023, 2:00 AM
@StSteven - Looking forward to it. Ghostbusters being thrown into a literal different environment is very creative.
StSteven
StSteven - 11/9/2023, 3:04 PM
@NinnesMBC - Same here. Been a huge GBs fan since I was a kid (we had GB and Transformers come out in the same year - how cool was that?). I have a GBs shelf in my movie room with the "Plasma Series" figures of the OG and new GBs, the Echo-1 and the HasLab (Hasbro crowdfunded) Proton Pack and Neutrona Wand and just backed the new set which includes the trap and PKE meter, so I'm looking forward to completing the set. 😊
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 11/10/2023, 1:20 AM
@StSteven - All I can remember from Ghostbusters is being scared to death of Vigo, his stare was literally haunting.

And I also liked Extreme Ghostbusters whenever I could catch on it.
StSteven
StSteven - 11/10/2023, 5:10 PM
@NinnesMBC - I think of me the scariest part was when Dana was possessed. Like where she' sitting in the chair and the kitchen (or whatever) door starts lighting up around the edges and then you see the Terrordog claw from behind the door. And then the claws coming up through the chair. That was the worst part. The claw on the door was my signal to cover my eyes. 😉
whatevtrev
whatevtrev - 11/8/2023, 8:29 PM
That's... a big part of what the strike is partly about? We already knew this
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 11/8/2023, 8:47 PM
@whatevtrev - hes talking about how studios profit margins are much smaller now
FusionWarrior
FusionWarrior - 11/8/2023, 8:35 PM
YESSSSS!!! BACK TO WORK AND LOOKING FORWARD TO 🔮 PROJECTS!!!
TheShape9859
TheShape9859 - 11/8/2023, 8:55 PM
Yay...the strike is over!
CaptainFlapjaks
CaptainFlapjaks - 11/8/2023, 10:43 PM
@TheShape9859 - which means f4 casting announcement is very soon. Wonder who they got.
TheShape9859
TheShape9859 - 11/8/2023, 11:16 PM
@CaptainFlapjaks - I'm more curious about further Superman casting
CaptainFlapjaks
CaptainFlapjaks - 11/8/2023, 11:55 PM
@TheShape9859 - Same. I think we will get casting of the villain, jimmy, perry and the kents. But i also hope we get our first look at david in the suit and rachel as lois
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 11/8/2023, 9:06 PM
I'm glad the strike is over. It was well needed because times are different with the rise of streaming and big budget movies going straight to streaming
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