Mark Millar Reveals Why He Thinks The MCU Has Found Success But The DCEU Hasn't

Mark Millar Reveals Why He Thinks The MCU Has Found Success But The DCEU Hasn't

Comic book writer Mark Millar has been talking cinematic adaptations of Marvel and DC properties and has revealed what he thinks is the key to the formers sucess and the latters failings.

By DumbQuixote - Feb 24, 2018 09:02 AM EST
Filed Under: DC Studios
Source: Yahoo! Movies
Mark Millar is something of a icon in the comic book and pop culture world, he has delivered some great work within the confines of the big two with the likes of Civil War, The Ultimates, Justice League and Swamp Thing along with his own creator owned titles that sometimes miss the mark but are all seemingly published with a movie deal attached. 

Millar is also a vocal fan and commenter of pop culture and while those comments are sometimes, quite frankly ridiculous (does anyone remember that Blade Runner 2049 Joe / K "Joker" embarrassment?) he nevertheless comes at them with a lot of knowledge in the creative industry. 

In an interview with Yahoo!Movies the Kick-Ass creator weighed in on the rivalry between the Marvel Cinematic Universe and the DCEU and while he feels the latter were always going to inherently be less successful, stating: 

“I think it’s really simple, the characters aren’t cinematic, and I say this as a massive DC fan who much prefers their characters to Marvel’s. Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman are some of my favorites, but I think these characters, with the exception of Batman, they aren’t based around their secret identity; they are based around their super power. Whereas the Marvel characters tend to be based around the personality of Matt Murdock or Peter Parker, or the individual X-Men, it’s all about the character. DC, outside of Batman, is not about the character. With Batman, you can understand him and you can worry about him but someone like Green Lantern, he has this ring that allows him to create 3D physical manifestations and green plasma with the thoughts in his head but he’s allergic to the color yellow! How do you make a movie with that? In 1952, that made perfect sense, but now the audience have no idea what that’s all about.


The comic book creator, whose work is often criticized as being tone deaf and mean spirited continued on the topic of the modern sensibilities holding DC back: 

“People will slam me for this, but I think the evidence is there. We’ve seen great directors, great writers and great actors, tonnes of money thrown at them, but these films aren’t working. I think they are all too far away from when they were created. Something feels a little old about them, kids look at these characters and they don’t feel that cool. Even Superman, I love Superman, but he belongs to an America that doesn’t exist anymore. He represents 20th Century America, and I think he peaked then.”



What do you think? Are the characters the problem in the DCEU's failings? Or is it something else? Do you think it's a narrow view of the longevity and versatility of these characters on Millars part? Leave your thoughts below.

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aflynn
aflynn - 2/24/2018, 9:45 AM
Audiences are tired of Superman and Batman and are tired of the DCEU, DC has lost the general audience and its own fans are tired of the mess they have given us.

We want new and exciting characters done right like Black Panther was, not bastardizations like Aquabro and the Flash.

Wonder Woman was a nice start but noone wanted to see her play second or third fiddle and the box office results proved that, JL should have benefited from her popularity and fans should have been hyped like they will be for when BP and Wakanda are shown in Infinity war, instead it was the exact opposite.
Knightstar
Knightstar - 2/24/2018, 9:48 AM
That's pretty deep
IctyoSapien
IctyoSapien - 2/24/2018, 9:48 AM
damn, this gon b gud
Mykull
Mykull - 2/24/2018, 9:52 AM
When have " We’ve seen great directors, great writers and great actors" in the DCEU?
I must of missed that.
bathawk7
bathawk7 - 2/25/2018, 2:09 PM
@Mykull - yeah dude sounded drunk, dceu had horrible directors n writers as far as the CBM genre goes
TheManWithoutFear
TheManWithoutFear - 2/24/2018, 9:52 AM
Wasn't Mark Millar supposed to be steering the ship at Fox? Now Disney have bought Fox soo..........in my eyes he did an sincerely stellar job. Thank you Mark Millar.
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 2/24/2018, 10:44 AM
@TheManWithoutFear - not since kingsman 2. netflix bought millarverse, all comics millar created and will make adaptations of all them. netflix just cant make films that have already got adapted like kick ass, wanted, and kingsman.

Netflix will be creating a "millarverse" or films based on millar comics.

matthew vaughn asked millar to pen a draft for man of steel 2 for dceu to make it more cheesy, comedic, and ridiculous like kick ass, kingsmen, and christopher reeves. but he could not becuz of his exclusive contract to netflix.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 2/24/2018, 9:53 AM
"...he belongs to an America that doesn’t exist anymore."
Kumkani
Kumkani - 2/24/2018, 10:09 AM
@BlackBeltJones - I kinda get what you're trying to say with this, and you're right with the comparison, but it's easier to do that with Cap because he's literally a man out of time and belongs to that idealistic America.

Superman doesn't need to be modernized, I agree. But translating that to film might be easier said that done. Zack Snyder did it wrongly though.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 2/24/2018, 10:24 AM
@BlindWedjat - I think both Cap and Super have ideals that are timeless yet old fashioned. Where Cap is literally a man out of time, his beliefs are as well.

Superman's intrinsic essence is something that should travel with him through time. You dropped Cap into a world where excessive surveillance and trying to win a war before it even starts are all too common. It was compelling to watch this good man contend with that.

I'd much rather see Superman dropped into our arguably gray world as a beacon of light who is trying to shine through the darkness.

Superman is from "too good to be true" circumstances. He was raised in an idyllic small town with idyllic, salt of the earth parents who raised him to be selfless and kind to an unbelievable degree.

He’s supposed to feel unfamiliar in some respects. He’s incorruptible, he’s cheesy, he’s the red and blue boy scout. Not because of tragedy or circumstance, but because he’s an everyman from Kansas.
DeathSeal
DeathSeal - 2/24/2018, 3:48 PM
@BlackBeltJones - This 100% this. I never could wrap my mind around Zak Snyder’s "superman is unrelatable" thing.
Battabing
Battabing - 2/24/2018, 4:05 PM
@BlackBeltJones -
Oh, the ultimate immigrant doesn't belong to a nation currently at war with immigrants?

Maybe Millar should tell us why his characters and their movies are such forgettable flashes in the pan.
Kryptonmatters
Kryptonmatters - 2/24/2018, 5:41 PM
@BlackBeltJones - That sir is what I have been telling people for years now. We live in a post 9/11 world, and in a time when xenophobia, homophobia, racism, death and terrorism is acceptable. I tell people that Superman is more relevant now than ever because of his small town sensibilities. But they are more critical calling him lame because he's a boy scout. They say he's too much of a good person to be relable. All I do is look at them and say then there is something seriously wrong with you if being a genuinely good person is considered lame and boring.
SisterSunday52
SisterSunday52 - 2/25/2018, 5:51 PM
@BlackBeltJones -

"I'd much rather see Superman dropped into our arguably gray world as a beacon of light who is trying to shine through the darkness."

Either you haven't seen Snyder's DC Films or you fundamentally misinterpreted them, because that's precisely what those films are about.
TheManWithoutFear
TheManWithoutFear - 2/24/2018, 9:54 AM
I know what he's getting at though. You go to the movies to see Peter Parker, not Spider-Man. That's always been Marvel's thing.
bathawk7
bathawk7 - 2/25/2018, 2:13 PM
@TheManWithoutFear - not me , I wanted spider-man, I never asked for a peter Parker mask to wear on Halloween as a kid ,
Beetleborg
Beetleborg - 2/24/2018, 9:55 AM
Except only Spider-Man has a secret identity in the MCU films.

Whereas for DC films they all have secret identities except maybe Cyborg
JustAChillFan
JustAChillFan - 2/24/2018, 10:28 AM
@Beetleborg - His point was that the secret identities are the characters. when you think of Iron man you think of tony stark, when you think of Wonder Woman you don't think of Diana Prince. I can tell you a lot about the personality of Captain America, I can't exactly do that with Martian Manhunter. Clark Kent is barely a character because he is supposed to be what people strive to become which causes him to be less relate-able.
Beetleborg
Beetleborg - 2/24/2018, 10:38 AM
@JustAChillFan - but that's not a secret identity, they just have one identity. Tony Stark and Ironman are interchangeable, he only leads one life. Batman and Bruce Wayne have essentially different lives. Peter Parker and Spider-man are more like Batman and Bruce Wayne than Tony/Ironman.
JustAChillFan
JustAChillFan - 2/24/2018, 11:22 AM
@Beetleborg - Not really, Bruce Wayne is the mask that Batman wears, it has been shown throughout his comic history that Batman would be Batman 24/7 if he could. Tony stark is Tony Stark who wears the armor to fight crime when he has to.
CavalierTunes
CavalierTunes - 2/24/2018, 2:41 PM
@JustAChillFan - You’re right: Bruce Wayne is just Batman’s disguise. And Iron Man is Tony Stark’s. The thing is, Tony Stark is more complex than Iron Man, and Batman is more conplex than Bruce Wayne.

On the other hand, Clark Kent is just Superman in glasses (as opposed to Superman being Clark Kent in a cape). But Superman isn’t as complex as Batman or Tony Stark.
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