DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE Spoilers: Anchor Beings Explained And What It Means For AVENGERS 5 And Beyond

DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE Spoilers: Anchor Beings Explained And What It Means For AVENGERS 5 And Beyond

Deadpool & Wolverine may be a largely standalone adventure but it also introduces the concept of anchor beings and they may be key to the Multiverse Saga moving forward. Find a full breakdown right here!

By JoshWilding - Jul 25, 2024 05:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Deadpool & Wolverine

Deadpool & Wolverine establishes that the Merc with the Mouth resides on Earth-100005, the same world inhabited by the X-Men and the reality where Wolverine died in 2017's Logan

Early on in the threequel, we learn Wade Wilson used Cable's time-travel device to visit Earth-616 and request entry to The Avengers. Happy Hogan politely turns him down and the anti-hero later reveals he destroyed the device upon returning to his own timeline. 

The TVA was aware of what Deadpool did but chose not to intervene...at least until now. Loki made it clear the organisation's reach is pretty much endless and we discover here Mr. Paradox has been tasked with overseeing the death of Earth-100005.

He explains how every reality has an "anchor being," a person of such importance that, when they die, so does their world. In Earth-100005's case, Logan's heroic sacrifice sent shockwaves through his world and, in roughly 2000 years or so, it will end. 

Paradox doesn't wish to waste time and has ambitions to take charge of the TVA. That's why the villain has created a Time Ripper, a machine which can wipe a timeline from existence immediately. Knowing Wade could be a problem and suggesting one of his higher-ups wants the Merc on Earth-616, Paradox offers him a place on the Sacred Timeline. 

Deadpool refuses when he realises it means never seeing his friends again and sets out to find a new Wolverine to replace the one who died saving X-23's life. Alas, it doesn't work like that and both heroes are sent to The Void. 

It's important to note anchor beings are not the same as nexus beings. It's been explained that they are an entity with the ability to affect the probability of an event and create Nexus events which wouldn't otherwise happen; in the past, the TVA pruned their timelines. It's confirmed that this movie takes place after Loki season 2 when he mentions Earth-616 is the Sacred Timeline and suggests Earth-100005 is one of an infinite number of branches. 

As for Earth-616's anchor being, rumour has it that it's Tom Holland's Spider-Man. 

When the movie ends (and we'll be back with a full explainer later), Deadpool and Wolverine heroically stop Cassandra Nova from destroying the Multiverse with the Time Ripper - which would have left only The Void - and Logan's heroism saves Earth-100005. 

Wolverine remains in that reality - where he'll presumably get a second chance with the X-Men - and as Hunter B-15 explains, the timeline is now thriving, meaning Deadpool's original plan worked. So, the Fox-verse is very much alive and well heading into Avengers 5

This surely means we're getting something along the lines of Avengers vs. X-Men as an Incursion would bring Earth-616 and Earth-100005 together in a way which gives Marvel Studios an excuse to have these characters meet.

While we still don't know whether this reality is the same one we saw in The Marvels (we'd assume it isn't as the events of Logan played out on Earth-100005), then there may need to be a retcon somewhere along the line to make a possible clash work. Also of note is the fact Wolverine joins Wade's reality with X-23 by his side; she was in The Void and it's strongly hinted that she's Logan's Laura, meaning she must have been pruned at some point and is now similarly restored. 

Ultimately, Deadpool & Wolverine is pretty standalone so whether this is the end of the story or there are plans to add these characters to the mix in the next Avengers movies remains to be seen...

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MadThanos
MadThanos - 7/25/2024, 5:27 AM
This was pretty bad in my opinion.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/25/2024, 5:38 AM
@MadThanos - apparently. Bad opinions about this movie is frowned upon on this site.

I had someone literally complaining (he said just "asking") why i am bad mouthing this movie

It is very bad for me as well
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/25/2024, 5:36 AM
Lol.

- movie explains anchors at the start
- only to set it aside and the universe magically heals itself

What writing is this????
FASELI
FASELI - 7/25/2024, 8:45 AM
@vectorsigma - It didn't set it aside. The whole point was that this was a meta view of the FOX X-Men universe. Without a Wolverine the audience wouldn't watch it and it would die. That timeline only existed as a series of movies, but it didn't have it's anchor character. It was stated that you couldn't just transplant a Wolverine from a other universe, because it doesn't work like that. However Logan's acts of heroism means he would be accepted by the audience and the timeline would live in. We know he will be accepted by the audience as I'm sure this will easily do 1 billion at the box. Paradox's motivation was wouldn't it just be more efficient to just end the thread now, after plucking out the one remaining character of worth, rather than just let it disintegrate over time
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/25/2024, 8:51 AM
@FASELI - for me it was set aside because at one point, it was mentioned that replacing the anchor with someone from another universe and then by the end, they ignored it and the universe just healed itself.

And also, WHERE IS LOKI IN ALL OF THESE??? Nova trying to eradicate the multiverse and no response?
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/25/2024, 5:44 AM
Also, anyone can clarify. To those who watched the movie

If paradox thinks DP will be a problem, why recruit him in the first place? It basically became a big wedge on his plans. Why not just leave him in his dying universe???

These little details are so simple that it exposes the poor writing of this movie.

FASELI
FASELI - 7/25/2024, 7:23 AM
@vectorsigma - Paradox said that it was those upstairs that wanted Deadpool removed from the thread, because he was needed for a greater purpose. It was Deadpool that then assumed he was "Marvel Jesus".
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/25/2024, 7:33 AM
@FASELI - i remember that, but being the insubordinate he is, it might be a lie from paradox. Even B15 has no idea what is happening and it seems she is the tva big boss now
OptimusCrime
OptimusCrime - 7/25/2024, 5:57 AM
The amount of bitching on this site is getting hilarious! So much time spend on something you seem to dislike🤣
TheMetaMan
TheMetaMan - 7/25/2024, 7:56 AM
@OptimusCrime - I know right it’s pathetic. I mean you’d think everyone on here would be happy to talk and relish over comics and movies because why else would you be on here. Instead people bitch whine and complain when this is entertainment. It’s not politics lol.
OptimusCrime
OptimusCrime - 7/25/2024, 9:41 AM
@TheMetaMan - yeah man, look at the comments above. Dude has been bitching about the movie for weeks, yet still went opening day. Pathetic🤣
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 7/25/2024, 5:57 AM
So he was trying to erase the Fox-Men timeline… Well, as far as I’m concerned, Mr. Paradox is the hero we deserve. This man is innocent.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/25/2024, 7:36 AM
@FireandBlood - so the movie that "saves the mcu" relied on the fox universe in the end. We will see with the BO in a few days
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 7/25/2024, 8:02 AM
@vectorsigma - The MCU never needed “saving”. If it did, they would’ve rebooted like DC did (twice). And they never relied on the Fox universe, just the characters they once held the rights to. Take notice on why people are hyped for this movie; it’s the antithesis to everything the Fox-Men movies stood for. That’s why Wolverine is in yellow, and not black leather.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/25/2024, 8:30 AM
@FireandBlood - i get it. But the antithesis imo only came with the accurate costumes. Hard to talk details if you havent seen it yet.

Also, ive said this to you before but sometimes rebooting is better than trying to keep the current one. The multiverse setup is now a jumbled mess that they wont be able to untangle.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 7/25/2024, 8:55 AM
@vectorsigma - And yet it’s still less messy than two separate rebooted cinematic universes running concurrently openly undermining for audiences attention like DC are doing.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/25/2024, 8:58 AM
@FireandBlood - we are yet to see that. Maybe wait for next year to criticize.

On the other hand Marvel has been with this multiverse saga and they are just making more questions than answers as it goes along. How are they to get out of this mess that will be satisfying to the audience aside from nostalgia and fanservice?
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 7/25/2024, 9:11 AM
@vectorsigma - You keep talking about fan service this and that, as if D&W isn’t what audiences it wants, but clearly it is. The movie is about to do gang busters, and Superman will be lucky to see half the money this movie is about to make, and you know it. That’s what really irks you.

But the fact remains. DC’s got two rebooted universe running concurrently with each other, and if you think that isn’t going to create confusion and dissent among audiences, you’ve got another thing coming.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/25/2024, 9:13 AM
@FireandBlood - when i said we wait that also includes the response of the GA next year.

Joker for example came out with the snyderverse already in full swing and it was successful. The general audience sometimes dont care about these details.

I cant say Superman will outgross D&W right now, Marvel has gone full on fanservice that it will have a good 1st week because of the hype. But lets see about word of mouth.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 7/25/2024, 9:17 AM
@vectorsigma - Joker isn't a cinematic universe, it’s a standalone series. The Batman is, with plans from its conception to branch that world out into a wider shared universe. This Reeves confirmed just a few days ago, which is why he signed the contract. So it’s not the same.

Joker also doesn’t have a Batman. The DCU will, meaning there will be two cinematic Batmen at the same time. That’s mess. Pure mess.

And Superman won’t outgross D&W, I’m sure of that. In fact, I’ll be shocked if it even outgrosses Man of Steel. The buzz but more importantly, the hunger, just isn’t there.
Killuminatic
Killuminatic - 7/25/2024, 9:45 AM
@vectorsigma - What’s the “jumbled mess” that you’re referring to?
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/25/2024, 9:54 AM
@Killuminatic - see @SethBullock comment below with the multiverse questions. If you are not confused in the multiverse they have now, you might not vmbe paying too much attention
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/25/2024, 10:05 AM
@FireandBlood - Gunn is good at execution, if anyone can figure it out its him. The fact he signed of on these means he has a plan.

Joker not being a cinematic universe is irrelevant. It is within a different universe and the audience didnt care about that detail.

You are calling it a mess this early, that is why i told you to wait, that is premature criticism.

Marvel on the other hand is CURRENTLY in a state of mess right now. I still dont see d&w reaching 1B but i also said we will see. But anyhow. Next year will have mediocre films and the multiverse saga is all over the place. Theyd rely mostly on nostalgia to bail them out

Suoerman doesnt need to outgross d&w to be successful, it will most orobably have a smaller budget so the returns will be easier. And i have confidence gunn will deliver a non forgettable movie unlike d&w
braunermegda
braunermegda - 7/25/2024, 6:16 AM
One thing I didn't get it is the year. Logan happens in 2029, right? So that means this movie takes place at least a few years later, but how is Colossus still alive? And megasonic?
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 7/25/2024, 7:44 AM
@braunermegda - Not seen the film yet but the Xmen were killed 5yrs before Logan, as such they were to be killed this year if DP & W was set in 2024 (rather than current MCU date which would still be a few years later)...

...the bigger thing was more the no new mutant born for 25yrs prior to Logan which kind of implied at least it wasn't the same timeline as any of the Foxmen films anyway cos of the years the school was shown in films unless you count the last were around X3, ignore Charles was killed in that and ignore DoFP changed the timeline such that X3 didn't happen...

...but DP films have always played a bit loose with canon and timelines trying to imply they are in the same universe as all the FoxMen films all at the same time which is impossible cos of DoFP is nothing else so realy shouldn't be worth worrying about cos Fox made enough of a mess of continuity any addition ones in a DP film is small potatoes.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 7/25/2024, 8:24 AM
@braunermegda - BTW I'd point out, in regard to timelines with Fox and specificaly DP, DoFP then Cable then Wade totay messed those up big time (esp at the end of DP2) regardless if we like what they did with DoFP and DP2 or not as the FoxVerse didn't have the same 'rules' about being able to change timelines with time travel thus can't fairly view anything FoxMen related through and MCU lens...

...DP always played fast and loose with that was canon to his timeline (never explained how and why his world had a helicarrier for one thing) and he messed up time so much there are ample headcanon ways to explain inconsistancies with his continuity but not worth worrying about TBH and only assess if you enjoyed the movie or not regardless if the timeline made sense (cos almost zero way to line up all the Fox timelines OTHER than saying DP turned their timelines into spaghetti with Cables device).
SethBullock
SethBullock - 7/25/2024, 6:27 AM
I still have to watch the movie, but from what I'm reading here nothing seems to make much sense to me.

Why would a whole timeline be in danger if one person/character dies?

Logan dies and 2000 years later his timeline also dies because he died 2000 years before?

And why does this Paradox guy needs a time ripper to destroy a timeline if the TVA already had those bombs that easily pruned whole timelines?

I also still don't get the "sacred timeline" concept, if only 616 is the sacred timeline, how did the Avengers travel to the past of other timelines in Endgame when those timelines shouldn't exist because the TVA should have pruned them.

And how did Strange see thousands of timelines where Thanos won? How could a Thanos from a different timeline travel to the 616 timeline without the TVA doing anything about it?

Why are all the X-Men or Spider-Man timelines still alive and have not been pruned by the TVA?

If all these timelines are still alive because of the events of Loki season 2 that I can't even remember now, then what is the current work of the TVA and why is the 616 still the sacred timeline instead of just one of the thousands, millions, billions or infinite other timelines?

I've been reading comics and watching time travel movies and tv shows since I was a kid (I'm over 40 now) but I honestly already forgot a lot of things from the Loki TV show, I just remember that lots of things didn't make much sense to me, but can't remember all the details now, and I'm going to guess that lots of people are not going to undertand sh*t either when they watch the next Avengers movies.

Everything should have been much more simple, after the time travel stuff in Endgame, Kang travels to the present of the main timeline intrigued by the time machine that Stark built or something like that, maybe Tony just created the time travel tech that Kang would use later in the future, idk, something like that, and then the Fantastic Four come back from the Negative Zone to help stop Kang because he is a Reed's descendant and the X-Men that were hidden decide they can't stay hidden anymore after seeing what Thanos did and how Kang could be an even bigger threat, that's all, add some time travel cool stuff, the TVA, the multiverse, etc, but with simple time travel concepts that most people will understand like those shown on Endgame, without overcomplicating everything too much like they did with the Loki show and now (apparently) with this movie, plus a billion unnecessary cameos that imo have just ruined the believability of the MCU.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/25/2024, 7:27 AM
@SethBullock - this is a good read.

The marvel creativity (or non-creativitt) team has spaghettified all their multiverse setup and there is no untangling them
FASELI
FASELI - 7/25/2024, 7:29 AM
@SethBullock - It's quite obvious that Wolverine is the anchor in the FOX universe. It's an observation on the FOX X-Men movies as a commercially viable product. Without him it's largely [frick]ed, and will die.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 7/25/2024, 7:45 AM
@SethBullock - that's a lot of questions, but I do have an answer for one:

The Avengers could travel back in time because they didn't go to another timeline. They created a new one the second they stepped out of the QR into a past moment on the 616 timeline.

Think the TVA didn't prune them simply because it wouldn't lead to the creation of Kang. That's the only thing they did: make sure timelines didn't end with an evil Kang.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 7/25/2024, 7:48 AM
@SethBullock - It is a Deadpool film thus never worth over thinking anything, it is cos it is for the story to work how the story works and riddled with meta references like the fact Wolverine was THE single biggest character in the Fox films.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 7/25/2024, 8:08 AM
Anchor beings, Nexus beings, Nexus events, Absolute points, branch timelines, parallel timelines, universes, dimensiond; I could use a TVA dictionary right about now
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 7/25/2024, 8:51 AM
@bkmeijer1 - You know, that gives me an idea for a feature next month...
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 7/25/2024, 9:18 AM
@JoshWilding - I already had the idea once to explain the multiverse: https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/marvel/loki/loki-spoilers-how-season-2-further-establishes-the-mechanics-of-the-multiverse-a201120

So much stuff that I didn't get to though, and with this movie there's even more to explore now. A dictionary could be nice.

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