Carefully Thought-Out Dragonball Z Fan Cast

There are plenty of fan casts out there, and post-Dragonball: Evolution, a lot more surfaced. However, there is a certain method that should be considered when conducting such fan-based pursuits. Read below!

By Advocate - Jun 07, 2012 03:06 PM EST
Filed Under: Fan Fic

Okay, so I figured I would post my fan cast, at least those I have chosen so far and then follow with my justifications. So while I'm presenting these actors and images first, I hope everyone takes the time to read through how I've logically thought this out. And just so everyone knows beforehand, I've been a longtime Dragonball and Dragonball Z fan. Before I even knew about fan casts, I was making fan casts for Dragonball with actors like Jackie Chan, Jet Li, and Robin Shou. But this was purely out of me favoring martial arts movies and that potential to match Dragonball greatness and nowhere near the level of thought put into the following:


Goku- Sean Faris / Young Goku- Leo Howard









Chi-Chi- Kristin Kreuk





Bardock- Jeffrey Dean Morgan





King Vegeta- Gerard Butler





Ox King- John-Rhys Davies





Grandpa Gohan- Jackie Chan





Gohan- Jon Foo









Vegeta- Ray Park





Krillin- Shaobo Qin





Tien- Johnny Nguyen





Chiaoztu- Jin Bin Park





Yamcha- Rick Yune





Yajirobe- Jack Black





Piccolo- Idris Elba





Master Roshi- Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa





Bulma- Mila Kunis





Dr. Briefs- Gary Oldman





Mrs. Briefs- Michelle Pfeiffer





Oolong- Patton Oswalt





Raditz- Hugh Jackman





Nappa- Nathan Jones





Master Shen- Ken Watanabe





Emperor Pilaf-





Trunks- Taylor Kitsch / Young Trunks- Jimmy Bennett









In order to well define the casting process for a representative Dragon Ball or Dragon Ball Z movie, one must seriously consider the information from which this canon is grounded. Since the story mostly revolves around the Saiyan race, and Goku, the main protagonist of the show and presumably any subsequent movie, it is a logical deduction to begin by carefully selecting Saiyans first. However, one must also be reminded of a general process, by which casting should occur, that which is based on legacies.

For instance, you can’t cast a young African American as your top choice for a child in a movie, and have that child’s biological parents be cast as white. Therefore, the obvious has become known; one starts by casting the ancestors, working down through lineage to figure out which actor/actress type is most suitable for the character in mind.

Now, back to the Saiyan casting. It is highly importance to understand what a Saiyan is. Not by us (the common people) decreeing the Saiyan race should be Asian in similarity, or that the manga is Japanese-based so it’s only natural to cast Asian actors instead of American, but by focusing on what is factually defined as “Saiyan.” For this and all other source material, it is best to turn to an encyclopedia of knowledge regarding this one particular subject, Dragon Ball Z. And due to the lack of resources available, that allow for one to easily access information on such detail, the usage of a wiki site is in order, more specifically dragonball.wikia.

From here out things become much simpler because now we have a basis from which to extract all foundational elements to casting- body type, height, facial features, hair style and color, etc. Only then can things such as “acting chops” be seriously considered. After all, break out stars make their debut by submersing themselves into the material and really devoting their job to executing the role they have taken on, for one reason or another. So it is easy to understand that if a no-named actor/actress can give a phenomenal performance, it only depends on the willingness of famous actors/actresses to resurrect performances like those seen in the Dragon Ball Z tv show. As such, one must negate all bias opinions toward certain actors/actresses in regards to how well one thinks that individual might have done in a movie. If this is to be evaluated for acceptance, then it must be evaluated based on their execution of such roles, and even then it may be hard to determine viability in the event the actor/actress never portrayed a similar role to the one they are being assessed for. An objective view is best when it comes to casting of any sort, but fan-casting allows for one to not be hindered by money attached to a famous name, or access to a series of characters.

If anything, fan-casting is something that should always be done first and to the level of scrutiny that is being taken right now. What this does is create ideals for the casting choices. While it might be a wonderful wish to have all of your favorite actors on screen together, it might not work due to multiple conflicts not yet known. This is why it’s important to set up real-life ideals. Maybe I see Vin Diesel as the perfect actor for Frieza (while other actors may make a better portrayal), but he’s not willing to sign on for a film. I don’t just scrap the Vin Diesel idea, because now I have a real-life example from which to go by. I can search for another actor who fits Vin Diesel’s build, facial structure, and possibly acting chops; however, the benefit of developing ideals is that this allows for no-named actors to be more easily accessed and as a result, the price behind the movie will decrease as the value increases.

But, according the dragonball.wikia, the Saiyan race is largely based in the translation of a “wild man.” The average height of Saiyans is comparable to humans. As witinessed, Saiyans are known to eat what is beyond logical possibility. And based on different size variations, some Saiyans are naturally built more than others. Each aspect will be individually broken down in order to understand how to accurately cast a Saiyan.

First off, the barbaric nature of the Saiyan race brings a sort of image into our heads as to what kind of man would be threatening enough to pull off the Saiyan warrior attitude. It’s pretty safe to assume that since this is an attitude, the majority of actors could pull this off if they tried, some without.

However, an image that can’t be removed from my mind is how the warrior race’s members have distinct features, such as height, that do not pertain to any actor. For example, Goku, being the primary Saiyan subject from which we can regulate all other Saiyan casting around, has a rather pointed nose (it’s not an actual point, but its shape is more narrow than wide). His eyes, while not containing any specifically distinct quality other than color, can be soft, but in many images shows a firm seriousness. This look isn’t forced; however, in the same breath Goku’s face is soft; he is a more innocent-looking Saiyan. Goku’s father, Bardock, is pretty much an exact first copy of Goku, so it would be safe to assume both actors would have to have some type of similarities. This brings to mind a dilemma with casting already and that is no two actors are going to look so identical that they’d both be able to be cast for the two roles of Goku and Bardock if ever a possibility. Yes, you could use the same actor if it were a flashback sort of thing, but this gets to a point about similarities that would caution such rash casting. Yes, we as Dragon Ball Z fans may be able to differentiate between Goku and Bardock clearly, but in order for a movie to be successful in its grand form, the uninformed audience must also be able to differentiate, and if the actors or portrayals of each character are frightfully similar, this simple act could lose an audience. So how do you reconcile with this fact? You go for an older version of the character in mind, just like you would cast a younger version of an actor, the actor has to be believably a child-form of who you are focusing on just as depicted above with the mixing of ethnicities. Also, since size is indeed a major issue, you can’t just assume the actor will wear some special boots that make them taller or to use camera work to make them shorter. While this can be done, it will take more effort, and in creating a good movie, it is always comforting to know more work is being done on the filming, acting, production, etc. as opposed to on-set magic tricks that could be easily avoided. As such, Goku must be cast as someone who is not too stocky for they will have to eventually be compared to the Humans within the film. He also can’t be too short, skinny, or tall. If this wasn’t taken into account, Goku could very well be standing over Raditz, leveled with Napa and Broly, and so on. This also applies to all other actors and roles. If Gohan is Goku’s young son, and he’s already taller than him, well I can only wish you so much luck. When properly transferring fiction to real-life, size and image do matter. It’s what makes the audience believe. It’s what sells. And all movies need good sales.

As for the eating capacity, it is not too absurd to see an alien race of any size consume a ridiculous amount of food in comparison to their human counterparts; however, this is where things get tricky. From what I recall of my favorite Dragon Ball Z episodes, and Dragon Ball, Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, and other Saiyans are all seen stuffing their faces beyond belief after fights. This would clearly contribute to their physical build as it is an energy-consumption and retaining process. It is not known how much other Dragon Ball Z fighters consume, but as everyone who is not Saiyan is (for the most part) human, the Saiyan meal devouring is drawn comparatively with that of humans. Like I’ve stated, this could be only indicative of the individual’s energy expenditure, but it logically comes down to a question of what’s believable. If the great consumers are portrayed on screen for some comedy effect, would we believe that much food could be consumed given an underwhelming body size? Perhaps, but what would be more believable is if you saw a “Viking-size” man throwing back plates on plates. There is less question of “where does that all go?” And to further assess the validity of this statement, you may even suggest that according to this, all Saiyans should be burly men to demonstrate their ability to use energy and eat. Yet, an easy maneuver out of this trap is to introduce the idea of Gohan eating. Yes he may be smaller, but if he’s taking after his father, Goku, then it’s more believable to hear that stated than “Saiyans just eat a lot.” This holds less water than other reasons, but it is not meant to stand alone. Instead it is to substantiate that proper way of casting a Saiyan.

It is as significant to inform the uninformed that while one might believe the Saiyan race to bare similarities to that of Asian qualities, or vice versa those of strictly American stature, it is never stated what they may bare similarities to so it is up for interpretation as far as who is cast as who.

Still, once these problems are dealt with, a new dilemma arises from the course of deep thought regarding casting. Hypothetically speaking, cast the Dragon Ball Z cast as a full Asian ensemble. They could all be very invested in the roles they play, bringing to screen a fine piece of work since classic kung fu bouts. But what the film would be lacking, in a one-word statement, would be diversity. Dragon Ball Z is probably the only martial arts based fiction that really appeals to story enough that it is globally recognized for the Z Fighters, and a universe so vast many characters are introduced in it. To cast all Asian actors would be to destroy the credibility of “mixing it up.” Watch Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, or Tekken. Yes, the stories might suck, and the acting may not work well either, but what remains is the idea. That here is this Justice League of martial arts and they aren’t from different worlds, they are a family first. Their differences speak to their story. Even Karate Kid embraces this idea. Of course, good arguments could be held for how all Asian casts do great jobs, but my argument here is to only say, if you can make a good, diverse movie, don’t sell yourself short. Once accepting the diverse nature of Dragon Ball Z, one must now fully analyze casting logic.

Saiyans, Nameks (for the most part), and humans would have to have some very defining similarities between them. This is only to say, you couldn’t cast an African American as a Namek because his facial feature fit the part if another character (non-Namekian) is cast as an African American who bares very similar resemblances. This is not to say African Americans can’t be casted as Nameks, but that facial features are a very big concern for this kind of cast-type. If you cast Goku as an Asian man, you can’t cast Yamcha as Asian as well (although you can), because then if Goku (a Saiyan) were Asian, his father would have to bare some resemblance, and likewise his father’s brother, and essentially the entire race, since for the most part the Saiyan race’s appearances were all very much the same. Casting Yamcha as Asian and Goku and subsequently all Saiyans, or even just one other Saiyan would lead to possible confusion by an audience. Yes, the story is supposed to feed the audience with belief on who’s who as opposed to appearance, but just think about the Last Samurai. What would happen if Tom Cruise’s character were Asian American instead? The movie would still be a good movie, given that the replaced actor would still perform as nicely. But now the actor would have to stand out from the other Asian actors in some way or another. Maybe he’s the only one wearing no shirt. Maybe he’s flamboyantly dressed while the others aren’t. Whatever it may be, those contrasts are going to be necessary in order for things to not get confusing. Not to mention the fact that as Z Fighters, they wear similar outfits. And of course, it is reiterated that lineage is key in determining actors/actresses.

Which now brings us into the logic behind the casting choices. Starting with Jeffrey Dean Morgan and Gerard Butler. In a way this casting choice is similar to that of Goku and Vegeta. Both Bardock and King Vegeta could possibly be interchanged with actors because while the roles demand different performances, the physical appearance is also required. It’s not hard to believe Gerard Butler could pull off a mighty King Vegeta, so what would King Vegeta’s rebellious counterpart look like? Well, for starters, since they are both Saiyans in a more barbaric period in Saiyan history, their features would be rather similar. That same counterpart would have to be experienced in the art of war, a true badass underdog kind of guy. We’ve seen Jeffrey Dean Morgan take on that badass warrior as The Comedian, but give him Saiyan pride and watch him tear up the role of Bardock.

This essentially kicks off a snowball effect in the casting option. Since Gerard Butler is seen as a good King Vegeta figure, all Saiyans mustn’t deviate too far from the burly, Caucasian-featured actor, unless…unless they procreate with a female of Asian decent.

As understood, Chi-Chi is more characterized as Asian, so naturally her casting choice would be a no-brainer Asian actress. However, what must be taken into account is her father, the Ox King. While he may be able to be pulled off by an Asian guy, allowing Chi-Chi’s ethnicity to be full Asian, his features are like a more battle-ready Hagrid of sorts, something menacing enough to intimidate enough people into knowing he is a true king. While this casting choice is not dead set (none of these are, but this especially), the idea is to cast Ox King as a larger, older, burly white man. From there, since Chi-Chi’s mom is never really talked about, it can be assumed that her mother was Asian and therefore Chi-Chi receives her mother’s dominant Asian gene. So it’s logical to see an actress like Kristin Kreuk take up the role of Chi-Chi. I had always liked the idea of Jamie Chung as Chi-Chi, but that can’t be undone (I refuse to discuss any past movie attempts).

And since Bardock directly passes his main features over to Goku, it is presumed that Goku would most likely be Caucasian as well; however, the two can’t look exactly the same, perhaps (if at best) just have Goku be a younger version of Bardock. Which is why Sean Faris is brought into the picture. I must say, I’ve swayed with the idea of Jon Foo being Goku and developing a cast around that, but the options become far too complicated, and while Goku is the main protagonist, I believe Jon Foo can serve an even better role in the Dragon Ball Z story. So with Sean Faris in line for Goku, my choices for Vegeta grow rather limited; Vegeta’s character is shorter than Goku and since Sean Faris isn’t extremely tall, this leaves few options open for a white (Saiyan-based) shorter actor with enough chops to pull off Vegeta. I’ve seen Ray Park thrown around a lot, and I didn’t see it at first, but I believe he would be an excellent person to dedicate to the role of Vegeta. By contrast, Sean Faris has served as the protagonist in other films, but there’s a dynamic not yet explored within Faris that I believe the role of Goku can really bring out. Goku is, by nature, fighting-capable, but he’s innocent, compassionate. Yes, he’s somewhat rash, but only because he cares the way he does. I think Sean Faris can pull this off. His facial features have a natural tendency to soften, so Goku’s compassionate side would come easy when pitted against Vegeta’s (Park’s) sinister look.

This is where I really thought my execution of casting choices really played into something amazing. By biological code, Chi-Chi’s genes dominate Goku’s. Therefore, we have now created the kind of Saiyan all people seem to be pretty satisfied with- one that is of Asian decent, yet bares some resemblance to the ambiguity of the Saiyan race, Gohan. And why I have built this up so much? Probably because, as we all know, Gohan has demonstrated the ability to achieve a power far beyond that which Goku could, at times making Gohan the strongest Z Fighter. To me, while Goku is the leader, Gohan is the real hero. We root for Goku before Gohan is really around, but once Gohan comes into his own, we are content with Goku killing himself, traveling around, etc. because we know he’s left us this legacy with Gohan. Since Gohan really is a strong character and personality to take on, Jon Foo seems like the logical choice for creating that image. Sean Faris could be seen as a weaker actor in comparison to Jon Foo, but Faris doesn’t have the toughest role to play. Yes, audiences and fans are going to root for Goku throughout the series, but once this teenager who has a need to prove himself comes into play that’s going to really pull at some heart strings. A serious actor needs to be in place for that part.

Likewise, with Bulma and Vegeta’s procreation it is safe to assume that Trunks is probably not of Asian decent at all. So this opens the door for a lot of different actors to take up the role; however, I’ve seen Taylor Kitsch act and he fits the bill; plus, in recent times he is rising up in the filming industry so it might be a nice snag for casting when the time comes. As for Bulma, I was really indifferent about choosing because I thought Emmy Rossum was the best choice for Bulma. I wasn’t exactly sure how to redirect that casting choice. Yeah, you could get a blonde or something, a girl who will commit even more to the role than Emmy did, but I wanted to get that shrieking Bulma back. The one that would annoy you just slightly, but you always appreciate what she did for the Z Fighters. Maybe make her a little more badass, but not too much or else Bulma and Chi-Chi start to look like the same person. Anyway, I went with Mila Kunis because while she’s come a long way from Jackie on That 70s Show, I feel she can bring that kind of character to the table once again, but with more fiction behind it, grounded in the Dragon Ball Z realm. And as a plus to that, Mila seems to be an actress who appreciates that fiction-loving crowd more than others, so I feel her ability to appeal to the Bulma fans would be a definite win.

There are a few matchups on here that are pretty self-explanatory, such as Jack Black as Yajirobe or Gary Oldman as Dr. Briefs, and there are some others that do not really have much logic invested in like Mrs. Briefs and Chaotzu. What can be said about the rest of the Z Fighters is that as homage to the Japanese manga, more Asian characters should be placed in significant roles. Logically speaking, it doesn’t make sense to cast Taylor Kitsch as Yamcha or having a master martial artist be anything but Asian. I haven’t tackled all of the roles either, so there is always more room to add more Asian castings.

Another thing to take into consideration is while the Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball series were broken into sagas, some may have to be condensed in order to deliver a well-rounded trilogy (at least). With that being said, an ensemble of outstanding actors and actresses may be a little harder to swallow for budget purposes, one reason why Justin Chatwin wasn’t a bad choice for Goku in the past. So when thinking about casting options, each part of the trilogy shouldn’t focus on famous plugs, but more so what’s it going to take to make the story right. It would be less reasonable to expect Gerard Butler and Jeffrey Dean Morgan to only cameo in a big-production film unless they were signed on for a prequel movie for later. This is something to consider when spacing out the abundance of actors/actresses.

Back to the remainder of the cast. The additional casting options are supplied in the event there is a great disgust toward some actors. It’s not a very extensive list, but I do feel that on a logical level these actors all deserve a well-placed role in a Dragon Ball Z film. I’ve only selected the most logical placements for them. There is some leniency though, for instance, with Master Roshi, Master Shen, and Grandpa Gohan. All three are portrayals of older Asian men with enough acting chops to be wise. Jackie Chan, while probably the best actor for this kind of role, was placed as Grandpa Gohan so that in the event a Dragonball-styled film (or prequel) were to be taken on, he could take up his role as Fortune Teller Baba’s last fighter, a supposed antagonist to Goku. As for Master Roshi, I simply focused on the look. Roshi’s look was the hardest to search for because to me, logically speaking, Roshi always gave off this more American, Chuck Norris vibe, and I couldn’t bring myself to subject the role to a Caucasian actor. I’ve only seen Cary as a villain, but I think it’d be a nice change in pace and since he’s always taken his roles seriously maybe he can get the Master Roshi, turtle hermit role down better than past attempts. As for Master Shen, I needed someone big enough to possibly take on the antagonist role, but not too big to where it’d be unreasonable to not have Master Shen appear in more than one film.

Anyway, while some of the cast here can vary from actor to actor, each one was specifically chosen based on the concepts distinguished above. Some are perfect matches for more than one reason. Others, not so much. Let me know what you think!
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kong
kong - 6/7/2012, 3:29 PM
I like it. People need to understand that in DBZ there's no Asia or America, so therefore you should call people racist when they cats a white person as Goku or if Gohans white and goku's Asian. Who gives a [frick]. I like it very much!
Advocate
Advocate - 6/7/2012, 8:25 PM
Thanks! I really wanted to take my time with the legacies and plotting out how things made sense. This was all inspired by a dream I had where Jeffrey Dean Morgan was Bardock, Gerard Butler was King Vegeta...and for one reason or another, Oolong was present, played by Patton Oswalt.
relentless1
relentless1 - 6/7/2012, 10:32 PM
i disagree, goku and gohan should be the same race dude, in the show they look almost excatly alike....i do think however that the saiyans dont have to be asian, infact they shouldnt be asian at all they should be caucasian, thats the vibe i got about thier race anyhow
TheSoulEater
TheSoulEater - 6/7/2012, 10:58 PM
Only suggestion is that Sam Witwer play Vegita
Advocate
Advocate - 6/8/2012, 8:18 AM
@relentless1

See, this is one of the things I found myself asking. But the first thing that comes to mind is that if you get two actors that (eventually) look identical, that could be somewhat confusing to a general audience. Still, this isn't a huge problem. What is, though, is the fact that Goku has American features, and then Chi-Chi is of Asian descent. I find it hard to imagine a product of the two looking more American. This is particularly why Kristen Kreuk was such an ideal choice for Chi-Chi. That way her father could be of American features and her mother could be presumably Asian. And Jon Foo is probably the only mix that I could see in the role of Gohan. If you've ever watched Tekken, I could never tell whether Jon was Asian or not because he looked so American. It was just the logical choice.

@TheSoulEater

Sam Witwer, while I do say has the look and I could see him as Vegeta, doesn't quite fit the badass role I see Vegeta as. I did speak about range, suggesting that any actor can rise to the occasion, but if you've ever watched Smallville, Sam's villainous side doesn't seem as bold as the Vegeta I recall from the series. It's actually unfortunate because I can vividly see Sam speaking in an angry British accent, which would fit. But knowing Sam's villainous character portrayal, I don't think his voice would match. However, if you watch the last season of Heroes with Ray Park, I believe he speaks with a British accent, and his "dark side" makes it more believable for Ray to be the Prince Vegeta we all know and love. Why force something when it can be crafted so easily?

Not to mention the height and build. Goku has always been slightly taller than Vegeta. It's not much, but it's noticeable. And Sean Faris clocks in at 6' so Sam Witwer's 6'1" would conflict. Of course this is fixable, but when Ray Park stands at 5'10" it's kind of hard to turn down the natural features here. And if you want to get really technical, Sam Witwer's body type is more along the same lines as Sean Faris' while Ray Park's is just a little more compact.

Again, I wish Sam were more suitable, but the potential Ray Park has captivates. It's the same problem I had when considering Zachary Quinto as Vegeta. Because we all know he's got the evil look to him.
superbatspiderman
superbatspiderman - 6/8/2012, 8:51 AM
Good cast I like it. Lots of good original castings even though I would have cast Jackie Chan as Roshi.
Advocate
Advocate - 6/8/2012, 9:38 AM
@SUPERBATSPIDERMAN

Jackie was my original (ideal choice) for Roshi, but then I thought about it and felt he should get a role that's more active. The most I remember Master Roshi doing is hulking out and some kamehameha waves. Unless of course you take the Jackie Chun route, but I've tried to work that into a storyboard detail and it seemed to distracting from the other major characters that would have to make appearances eventually.

I thought Cary had the look of Roshi enough to pull off the "American" old man features. Plus, if you remember back to his role in Johnny Tsunami, his nature seems like a feasible stepping stone to Master Roshi. Jackie Chan could pull off Roshi, too. He's actually one of my favorite actors, and at times I believe he could pull off anything.

But that is why I feel he's better suited for the Grandpa Gohan role. I love the idea of him being a mentor to Goku with a good possibility of becoming Fortuneteller Baba's Fifth Mysterious fighter. Jackie Chan could be actually serve in multiple movies, being a source of guidance for Goku.
Lewis25
Lewis25 - 6/8/2012, 12:00 PM
I love most of this cast especially Jeffrey Dean Morgan as Bardock.

I think Goku should be played by someone a little older than Faris, I picture Jared Padalecki as Goku. He can play the nice guy side of Goku and the badass side too.

I like Ray Park but, I think you need a real actor for Vegeta. Someone who is great at playing angry badass characters, like Ben Foster.

I think James Hong would be a better Roshi, but I can see Tagawa in the role.

the only other one I would change is your King Vegeta choice. I love Gerard Butler but I think Christian Bale would be a better fit.
Advocate
Advocate - 6/8/2012, 1:03 PM
@Lewis25

Thanks for the feedback! I did think Faris was needed to be a little older, given his son would look like his brother, haha. But given how the likelihood of Hollywood making another Dragonball movie in the coming years is slim, I'd say Faris has some time to ripen and improve. Obviously, this is barring the even slimmer chance that any of these actors are considered.

I'd still have to say I can't see Padalecki as Goku based on the body size. He stands at 6'4" and while that's a great point to make the main character stand out, that means he would be a little too tall for some of the other cast members. This isn't a big deal, but then I get to Padalecki's face. For the character of Goku, I need to see this actor as complacent as he is, yet able to show a very pissed off look, or serious look (as if he's "powering up"). Maybe I just haven't seen Padalecki in enough of these roles, but the angry expressions I've seen in Supernatural, which he does a phenomenal job in, just don't quite fit my real-life imagining of Goku. Plus, I think he bares some resemblance to Tom Welling, who I know has been other people's choice as Goku, but I think that's not very realistic.

And I guess the same, "time to ripen" statement could be used for Ray Park, but you mentioning Ben Foster brings up a good point. He's actual on my alternate list for Vegeta, because he's got the acting chops to pull him off, definitely. And his size and build works well, too. The main reason I chose Ray Park for Vegeta was because his natural look (and by natural I mean, how he presents himself in most films) just seemed to be the closest match to a real-life Vegeta. Plus, he's already played the evil counterpart to Faris in The King of Fighters, while that wasn't a spectacular representation at all. They had the on-screen chemistry. So Foster works, but his appearance would have to change, most obvious would be hair color and style. And yet, it's one of the main things that worries me. If only Ray Park had more experience. He was in Heroes as a villain, and even though his role was small, it wasn't terrible. In fact, he was one of my favorites from the last season.

As for Roshi, Hong could take the role and I'd be fine with that, but Tagawa is my ideal Roshi. Most of these actors and actresses are my translation from the cartoon to real-life, and while the images aren't exactly representative, the matches were carefully thought out in this manner.

I don't know about Bale, though. Don't get me wrong, he's an excellent choice and he's probably a top-runner for that kind of role, but his on-screen appeal just doesn't match Butler's feral capabilities. But now that I think about it, King Vegeta is a little more cool-headed than Bardock. Maybe Bale could take the role. Hell, I'm definitely putting him on the alternate list after this. But for now I just can't see it. I'm sure it's there. I think what makes it harder is the fact that if Foster does take Vegeta, then the images are more blurred. Maybe if they were decorated for the roles, then I could truly evaluate them.
Hizzy
Hizzy - 6/9/2012, 7:58 PM
Wow its weird...i like all ur picks except krillin.
Advocate
Advocate - 6/9/2012, 11:51 PM
@Eli53

Funny you mention that. I personally wasn't a huge fan of Shaobo Qin for Krillin. I thought, if anything, Martin Klebba would be better for the role. But then I thought Klebba could bring more to Pilaf's role and stuck him there. I tried reasoning with Qin by saying if you shave his head and make him a little more muscular (maybe?) then he'd be a nice take on the monk side of Krillin.

However, since my logic in all of this has mainly been to find the best "looking" actor in spite of talent, I for some reason (even though Krillin is a monk) always believed him to be more American in appearance. So I really had two routes, try and recreate Krillin's image exactly in Martin Klebba, or "mix it up" by giving Krillin a very believable, traditional monk background.

But thanks for that! I really put a lot of thought into this. And now that I think about it, Martin Klebba could be on my alternate list for Krillin so long as someone replaces Pilaf's role. And since you said you liked my picks, how would you feel about Andy Serkis in the role of Emperor Pilaf? That way they could really get fancy with CGI. Plus if Serkis were tapped for his talents in a Dragonball Cinematic Universe, then he could possibly be a reoccurring cast but for different extraterrestrial enemies. Of course, this is only if Klebba serves as a good Krillin... Let me know what you think!
Lewis25
Lewis25 - 6/11/2012, 5:14 AM
Andy Serkis should play Frieza.
Advocate
Advocate - 6/11/2012, 10:31 AM
Oh man, that's so true! So then does it sound feasible to tap Serkis for multiple roles given their time difference in the series? Or just find someone else to take Emperor Pilaf's throne? Perhaps the likes of Danny Woodburn or Jordan Prentice?
PJ
PJ - 6/11/2012, 2:55 PM
Gerard Butler is the best casting choice on this list.

Loved all of them, too. I think you should make a plot because it would help me understand where they'll fit in, in the movie.

Continue doing these (with plots) though!
Advocate
Advocate - 6/11/2012, 7:36 PM
@PJ

Thanks. I had the beginning of the movie kick off with some really epic battle so I wanted to have strong leads to kind of give Goku and Vegeta a lot to live up to.

Question: Should I edit this fan fic with an update of the story plot I've written, or just make a new article in the fan fic section? I'm new to the posting stuff.
ager
ager - 6/14/2012, 3:00 PM
Wow, im blown away by the detail and care you put into this and after reading your logic i must say, although i hate manga or japanimation or those types i think this is a great cast and well thought out. I know a lot of people that love DBZ and this would be a cash cow. great job
Advocate
Advocate - 6/14/2012, 7:27 PM
@ager

Thanks! I think the praise means a lot coming from someone who's not particularly fond of the genre. I like to think it's my responsibility to apply this kind of logic and attention to detail.

Hopefully, since this post has gone mostly overlooked, more people will assess this in a way that benefits my endeavors.
Dodgibishi
Dodgibishi - 7/17/2012, 12:56 PM
I think that Sam Witwer could fit as Turles if he were to appear.
Advocate
Advocate - 7/21/2012, 5:47 PM
@Dodgibishi

You may be right about Witwer, but I had no intention of using Turles (at least for right now) in any of my plans for a Dragonball adaptation.
Advocate
Advocate - 8/1/2012, 2:41 PM
@giannis Jackman was probably the most uncertain pick on my entire list. It just didn't seem right. The role wouldn't be as big, and screen time for an actor of that caliber would devastate the portrayal. The only reason I picked him was because of his age in comparison to my Goku cast and the fact that Raditz, like Jackman has a more feral nature as opposed to Goku's innocence.

But Jackman for Bardock, or maybe even King Vegeta (while I feel Bardock would be stronger) would be nice. Still, the idea of cramming too many big budget actors in one film comes to mind.

I just checked out Kam-Bo and I've got to say I think that might be a wiser choice than Jack Black. But, after taking in Kam-Bo's appearance I can't help but notice huge similarities between him and King Kai. And given since he is a little older I would probably back this recent discovery to say Kam-Bo for King Kai sounds great.

DiCaprio was the obvious choice for those of us who were casting back when Dragonball Z was in its prime. And sadly they didn't tap that resource, because Leo would have been great (no one can deny that). So I went with Kitsch because of the long hair and screen presence as a small, yet influential hero (Gambit, John Carter) and his voice has that somewhat raspy tone Trunks has. The most memorable scene I recall of Trunks is his encounter with Frieza. It was a no-brainer to plug Kitsch in the role as a lot of his lines from other movies sounded like what Trunks would say to Frieza in that instance. Still, Pettyfer could be a runner-up in my opinion. Part of the small pool of actors tapped for the role.

And since I introduced a new cast, King Kai, to the line up, I figured discussing my take on Oolong and Pilaf seemed fitting. I'm not against the CGI, but I'd rather make these actors portray the roles similar to how was done in Avatar and others. This is not to say that the actor's appearance therefore doesn't matter, but more so the actor can be seen in the role before "dressing up" for it. Some ideas were to completely CGI them and get their anime voice counterparts to fill in, but I think casting the roles for real actors would be a fresh take and maybe they can bring something new to the character that we haven't yet seen (nothing drastic, just more depth).

Anyway, thanks for the input. I always find these times most reflective so it's a shame more people don't critique fancasts and the like. Definitely a huge contributor to the creative process.
Advocate
Advocate - 8/2/2012, 4:09 AM
@giannis The idea is that I wouldn't want any actor to start off too large. For the Avengers they have RDJ, who is now (through the success of Iron Man and other movies) is now a big budget actor, Chris Evans who was relatively limited and subtle enough to extend Cap's role, Chris Hemsworth who was a relative unknown before his casting, and Mark Ruffalo who is a low-budget actor. Sure, Jackson as Fury is pretty big budget, and Renner is becoming more famous, but their ties to the franchise should stay true. The fear is that by Avengers 3 (after all of these actors and more become incredibly famous) how much will the budget be? If they have to share the screen with more actors, will they opt out of the big bucks pay to bring a great presence to film? Hollywood suffers from that all the time and so with my cast, or anyone's for that matter, I didn't want to pick anyone like Jackman for a smaller role as a (probably) one time deal. If a larger actor assumed such a role, they'd have to do it courtesy to the franchise and the story, not the money.

I think the biggest problem for bringing to life a Dragonball Z adaptation is character count. There is such a vast amount of portrayals shown in such a small amount of time that in order to tell just a snippet of a story, you need to cast so many people. If you don't, you run the risk of limiting the dimensions of the story. But if you do, the budget comes into play more. Balancing it out with lesser-known and lesser-used actors seems like a feasible approach to tie them to a franchise with as little rope as possible.
Advocate
Advocate - 8/5/2012, 11:27 PM
@giannis Oh yeah, it's definitely more than doable. All I'm saying is they didn't cast Frodo, Sam and Bilbo as Hollywood's hottest actors at the time. They chose well and made sure the choices didn't cost them big. It's harder to cast actors who usually land main leads in supporting roles than casting actors who play supporting roles in supporting roles (ie. Morgan Freeman, Michael Caine, etc.) in spite of how good they are.

So I wouldn't see it realistic if Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, and all of the other Saiyans were cast as top contenders for lead roles. There's too much star power especially when you still have to consider Piccolo, Krillin, any other Z fighter and definitely any supporting character in the series who really stands out and makes the idea of adaptation special.

I personally wouldn't even consider having one big time actor star as Goku and the rest fall around him in respect to that status. Maybe I'd make an exception for Goku's pick, but then it looks like the film stars that person and everyone else is supporting actors. I'd rather it be an ensemble in the most discrete way. Which brings me back to my inner dilemma with Jackman. He fits, just not as a supporting role (which is what Raditz would amount to). Unless he took more supporting character's positions, I'd have to consider another actor.
Advocate
Advocate - 8/6/2012, 8:58 PM
That's all one film? That's a lot to crunch in. Almost seems like a montage. Could work if we took the lack of character development and story compartmentalization from the tv show, but on the big screen I feel that approach might only appeal to DBZ fans. And well, my intention of story would be to avoid disappointment, however inevitable that is.

I originally thought Dragonball would be its own trilogy, then Dragonball Z being its own saga of sorts. Maybe 2 or 3 for Dragonball and 4 or 5 for Dragonball Z? There's just so material and I'm not saying everything has to be touched on, but even inner turmoil alone with certain characters would make for a protagonist vs antagonistic role, not even taking into account an actual villain. I wrote out a trajectory just to keep my thoughts in order as far as story board goes. But I'd no intention of disclosing it 1) because it's just my opinion in raw form and 2) I figured I'd only do so if it was requested...
Advocate
Advocate - 8/7/2012, 10:02 AM
The story I wrote out for a Dragonball movie took 3 films to tell going from an origin of sorts, to the World Martial Arts Tournament, to King Piccolo's adaptation. Then Dragonball Z took a trilogy turn as well with the Saiyan Saga, Cell Games, and Rise of Buu. At the beginning of the first Dragonball movie, the story would extend not Bardock's story, but Goku's story, using Bardock as a vehicle for that. I would imagine the sequence last no more than 30 minutes on screen, but probably less. A spin off could cover more about Saiyan origin, but I highly doubt that would happen. Of course, this probably nullifies Butler's choice as he's not the most familiar supporting actor in movies, but in the same vein P.S. I Love You was he could be an ever-present voice for Vegeta via holograms, etc. or flashbacks.

And I think the general audience wouldn't naturally be drawn to a Dragonball movie on its own (let alone 3 of them) unless they offered something not previously considered. And for me, as a writer, that's character development. It's essentially why I needed 3 films to tell a young Goku's story. If I reworked it, maybe 2, but that's really risking losing the essence of some characters. Dragonball Z is definitely the easier route to story telling as everything is compiled nicely, the stages are clearly set.

I checked out Tyler Posey as the name didn't sound familiar, but I've seen Teen Wolf and some of his other on screen appearances. I'm in no way sizing him up based on any of those, but his look just doesn't fit. He'd sell me more on a young Raditz (that's pushing it) or if anything an older Goten. In some of his roles, he's been cast, and has played a convincing Hispanic which isn't something that flows off the tongue nicely when honing talent for a Saiyan race.
Advocate
Advocate - 8/8/2012, 5:15 PM
@DeadHubris Thanks. How do you mean?
axelsson
axelsson - 8/25/2012, 3:04 PM
we agree in some...

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/XMenChronicles/news/?a=48462
redhood2710
redhood2710 - 9/3/2012, 2:13 AM
Good piccolo and future trunks casts
Advocate
Advocate - 9/16/2012, 7:43 AM
@axelsson Cool, I'll check yours out!

@redhood2710 Thanks, future Trunks just made way too much sense to me.
giannis
giannis - 1/1/2013, 1:14 PM
Your cast is great. And, I get why you don't want to start with a big star, but a live adaptation definitely needs one huge box office draw!
BoredSorcerer
BoredSorcerer - 3/13/2013, 12:30 AM
Awesome cast man
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