Champions Battle Poll (Tuesday's round)

Luthor
Brainiac
Thor

Lex Luthor(Warsuit) vs Ironman(Hulk buster)

Lex wins on agility alone.The Hulk buster lack speed and mobility he'll be a sitting duck compared to Lex's warsuit.

Brainiac vs Apocalypse

Brainiac wins by hacking Apocalypse techno organic body and shuts off essential systems.

Thor vs Green Lantern(Alan)

Green Lantern is simply outclassed Thor take this by a large margin.

Lex vs Tony would be a really good match

Brainiac vs Apocalypse would be too

But Alan sorry dude Thor owns you unless your kingdom come veersion then maybe ?

DC roll FTW.

^^ Superman is not stronger than Hulk. Unless you're taking about Pre-Crisis Superman.

You see that's the problem with Superman (and Hulk but to a far lesser degree) there is like 50 versions of them. It really depends on which version you use.


Like most powerful versions:
Pre-crisis Superman vs Worldbreaker Hulk. Would be a good fight, but Superman takes a good majority.

Or original versions:
Original grey 50-ton level Hulk vs original 2-ton level Superman, who can't fly either. Hulk murder stomps.

Or current versions:
New 52 Superman vs Indestructible Hulk. I'd call a draw because they're too even.

Or the classic version:
Classic Hulk vs Classic Superman, old Superman has struggled against the likes of Grundy whom I might add isn't as strong as classic Hulk. In fact, Grundy has given Superman a run for his money many times. Grundy disproves the dumb argument that you have to be a super speedster in order to give Superman a good fight. Getting off topic here, but classic/iconic Hulk is stronger than Superman.

How does he have too many abilities for him to deal with, when he's fought and won against people who have the exact same power set as Superman (Gladiator) as well as some who are more powerful than Superman (Sentry)???


even though Superman does have super speed, he doesn't go around speed blitzing people now does he?
Superman heat vision and freeze breath would honestly have no effect on Hulk. Superman MIGHT (notice I say "might") be a tad stronger than base Hulk. But he's always pulling punches, as is Hulk but not quite as much. Plus, the fact that Hulk's strength grows overtime. If Superman's only true advantage is his speed.

People underrate/overrate these two specific characters due to the fact that they are both wildly inconsistent. But, IMO the traditional iconic versions. Hulk is the more likely to win. Although circumstances would allow for a win for either, seeing as they are dead even.

Iron Man Hulkbuster
Brainiac
Thor

@Loudlon-- It's funny, I'm reading your comments and and Heny Rollins' "Ghostrider" is playing on my Ipod.

certainly not out of spite, but when i see something i disagree with ill say it, anyways i even said i think that hulk would get stronger than superman when he gets angry but i also believe that superman would quickly realize that hed have to take it up a notch to bust hulk up and he would do so seeing as hes no slouch in the thinking department, hed go all out and i would bet at that point that hed be able to knock hulk out, even if he didnt hed knock him into space and then the fight would be over either way

Superman would win barely if he made full use of his speed. He isn't stronger, but pretty even. And if he went all out, he would strike more blows than Hulk would. And would eventually win, even though it would still be difficult.

Btw: Megaton range? Supes would lought at such a weak opponent. Superman is capeable of lifting some hundred quintillion tons (Superman allstar) or even about 6 hextillion tons in the new 52. It would take Hulk a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooog time to get even close to that.

@Anung
All star Superman isn't even canon. New 52 Superman' greatest feat was benching the weight of a planet. Hulk has also crushed a planet. So I don't see how he's stronger. The only version of Superman that is stronger than Hulk is Pre Crisis Superman.

@Unknown
Still how do you get that the iconic Superman is stronger than the iconic Hulk?? The iconic Superman couldn't lift a planet, he could lift mountains and skyscrapers which is the same strength as Hulk. But Hulk can get stronger.

You see that's why we are arguing, because we are talking about different things. We are arguing about who's stronger, when you really can't tell because Superman's strength changes like every month. Pre Crisis version is stronger than Hulk, New 52 is his equal. Classic is inferior physically.

Iron Man
Tie
Green Lantern

fenix122, I suggest not carrying on this debate. Bro, I actually been a lurker here for a long time. Even back since the old battles, unknown fax is a DC fanboy who doesn't know jack shit about the Marvel characters. He claims to, but doesn't. Just look at his track record, he thinks Batman can beat Iron Man for Pete's sake. He aready proves he cant be reasonable, so I suggest you dont try an reason with em.

@fenix122

What I'm getting at is Hulk starts of weaker but has the potential to match Superman,but it would take a while before that happens.Once Superman learns what feul the Hulk's strength then he's no match for Superman.While it maybe 50/50 I put my money on brain beating brawn every day of the week.

@JuggyPunch
That match was with prep time and everyone knows thats Batman's specialty.This has always been my point of view on these match up.I'm not trying to change peoples opinions.I'm sorry for not excepting PIS and inconsistent as answer's for a characters feat and/or power levels.It just it's a fictional universe where every thing in it is PIS and inconsistent.

You guys are almost acting like Hulk is a pantywaist when calm. Calm Hulk is in the 70-ton range, but even then he's pretty much indestructible. And the instant he turns angry he launches to Class 100. He's been struck full-on by guys like Thor, Juggernaut and Thing while calm only to instantly turn around and knock the tar out of them. That's the key word, "instantly." There's no gradual growth from 70-ton to Class 100. It's only AFTER he launches to Class 100 that there's a lag time as he grows stronger, but even then it doesn't take long. So Superman would most definitely get in the first few hits, but Hulk would quickly catapult to his level. This kind of thing has been shown time and time again in the comics, and if all the pro-Superman guys actually had a working knowledge of Hulk, they'd know this. The only exception I can think of is when Doc Samson knocked out calm Hulk with a sucker punch, which was laughable. Especially considering they'd just been fighting, Hulk had been hammering Samson around like crazy, Samson was exhausted and Hulk was JUST returning to a calm state. I love John Byrne's work from the 80s but that was a total lapse in logic on his part.

Another thing to consider is that Bruce Banner has to become angry to turn into Hulk in the first place, so the instant he transforms he's already in the Class 100 range, because he's already angry. Calm Hulk comes later. So if Supes had half a brain he'd wait until Hulk was calm, THEN attack. But even then, the first hit would send Hulk right back to angry level, and after a couple more Hulk would go into full-on beserker mode, and that's when Supes would realize he's bitten off WAY more than he can chew.

All our Hulk vs Superman arguments are moot seeing as how neither is on the fight ballet.This argument should be whether an alien warsuit can beat a Stark tech suit design to fight the Hulk.Either way it really doesn't matter as all of these match ups are based on their fictional feats.Which at the end of the day defies all logic anyway.

PS Not trying to start an argument just stating my opinion on this matter.

@Fenix

You're hopeless,you like arguing in circles.So I'm not going to indulge you or any of the marvel fanboys anymore.A fight is more then just raw power and who has a higher I.Q.,their tactics and personality play a key role here too.But hey that's just me being a DC fanboy.