EDITORIAL: Plot Threads and Easter Eggs of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in relation to The Avengers Part 3!

EDITORIAL: Plot Threads and Easter Eggs of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in relation to The Avengers Part 3!

In the final chapter of Plot Threads and Easter Eggs of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in relation to The Avengers we will look into The Incredible Hulk and Thor following the jump…Warning Spoilers!

Editorial Opinion
By ThomasRochester - Jul 24, 2011 03:07 PM EST
Filed Under: Fan Fic

The Incredible Hulk had many Easter Eggs and plot threads that relate to crossovers in other Marvel Cinematic Universe films, some subtle and some not so subtle. As for the subtle ones, in the opening credits we view plans for the sonic beam trucks created by Stark Industries, as well as a few documents with Nick Fury’s name on them. Another subtle Easter egg is during the Culver University scene that can be seen at the end of Iron Man 2, the reporter states the names of the two students who captured the video of the Hulk, the names being Jack McGee and Jim Wilson. Jack McGee for those of you who don’t know was the reporter in the ABC series in the 70’s, no big deal another cute reference to the show. Jim Wilson however, is the nephew of Sam Wilson, The Falcon himself. Could this be Kevin Feige trying to slip a future cameo/film under our noses without thinking about it, or just a coincidence? I tend to believe the former, as it’s not every day you see a black kid with the same name as the nephew of a black superhero, so will we see the Falcon anytime soon? Perhaps not, but this is promising that Marvel Studios is trying to expand the MCU with more characters that aren’t exactly considered “A-list” characters. It brings great promise that this may be the case, perhaps we can see Beta Ray Bill in a future Thor movie?!

The biggest egg in TIH is the repaired version of the Super Soldier serum. The serum is blue, much like in Captain America: The First Avenger and it also worked as seen with Blonksy during the Culver university sequence. The comparisons with TFA can be seen as the speed with which both Blonsky and Rogers move and execute attacks is uncanny. Also the speed at which Blonsky recovered after having all of his bones “crushed [into] gravel” helps better understand how Cap survived 70 years in frozen terrain, as well as hinting that the Red Skull could survive living in another realm, that being that the Serum has a self repairing side effect.

I feel if I don’t address the lightning scene someone will be angry, and I would rather not deal with anyone while they’re angry. So did Thor “size up” Hulk? No, although considering that this scene followed the Culver university scene, it would have followed the debriefing of Tony by Fury. Therefore, this could have been around the time that Thor was taking care of business over in New Mexico, there is a two or three hour difference so it could be the same moment that Thor was taking out the Destroyer, which could cause atmospheric disturbances and change weather patterns throughout the nation. So outside of a theory with absolutely no meteorology experience this really could be no more than a simple coincidence or reference to Thor.

Speaking of everyone's favorite God of Thunder, Thor is similar to TIH, it has many subtle eggs, and a few things that could be explained further explored with another scene from an MCU film. On with the subtleties, Dr. Erik Selvig references Banner when talking about SHIELD, and also hints at knowing someone that has dealt with “these people before.” Now having read the script, this colleague is known to be Ant-Man himself, Henry “Hank” Pym. Now this could solidify the “theory” that Hank Pym is in Africa searching/studying Vibranium, all it actually says is that Hank has been involved with Shield in some capacity prior to Thor, which with Marvel Math you can assume is before IM2 if not the original Iron Man. Are you thinking what I am thinking? Of course you are! This means we should definitely be seeing a Hank Pym reference in The Avengers discussing his involvement, and perhaps a post credits cameo(Fingers crossed!). Around the 34 minute mark of Thor is the end Credits scene to IM2, now does this mean that this part of Thor falls is chronologically following the debriefing scene in IM2? I'm not sure, although we should just petition Kevin Feige to tell us the chronology of the films, with dates and times included.

The biggest egg in my eyes is a simple phrase Loki says to Heimdall, “There are secret paths between the worlds to which even you with all your gifts are blind.” This phrase set up the route to which Loki arrives on Earth for The Avengers. Yet after seeing TFA we know that the Cosmic Cube is a path between worlds, whether or not Heimdall can see these paths does not matter. What does matter, is the fact that now we have a way for Thor to get back to Earth in The Avengers. When the Skull was sucked into the World Tree, the cosmic universe looked very similar to a scene in Thor, meaning he could have ended up close to Asgard. At the end of Thor we see that Shield has the Cube in custody with the idea that it has unlimited power and it is hinted that Shield may know that the Cube is a gateway to another dimension. Now with Cap unfrozen, he will be able to explain what happened to the Skull, which could lead to someone using it to get Thor back on Earth. Although, I would assume that Loki will have obtained the Cube somehow before Thor is brought back to Earth which would become the day unlike any other.
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jjmeylar - 7/24/2011, 4:25 PM
Your three-part editorial series has made me a huge fan of you. You seem to do your work quite thoroughly! I love it! I hope that you keep up the good work as Feige releases more information throughout time.
ThreeBigTacos - 7/24/2011, 5:11 PM
Very great job! You should probably move this back to the editorial section though :) I cannot wait until The Avengers! Keep up the good work man, find a way to keep this article series going!
ThomasRochester - 7/24/2011, 5:48 PM
Thanks guys!
CaptainCraptacular - 7/24/2011, 5:54 PM
dont know if anyone seen this..cand dwnload video or nuthin but check out "Hulk"..the scene were him and Betty are in the cave..(recomend blu-ray) lightning strikes, if you look closely it looks like someone or something falling from the sky..my friend showed me..told me it was Thor!! I'll agree with him..swear i aint crazy!
ThreeBigTacos - 7/24/2011, 6:50 PM
^No dude... (sigh I hate the internet sometimes) ... There's nothing falling, hell that's not even how Thor fell. Was there bifrost opening up and touching down? No. If there is an object, it's the rock Hulk threw in that scene.

someone correct me if I'm wrong, but we never actually see Thor's hammer touch down on earth do we?
Dumegg - 7/24/2011, 6:52 PM
@ Thomas Rochester- cool articles dude. something else
you might consider is that in the comics, Mjolnir(thors
hammer) can open portals to all the nine realms. this is
something that Thor wasn't able to do in the movie. but
maybe Odin hasn't granted that ability to the hammer
yet. maybe because the Bifrost is in ruins, odin imbues
Mjolnir with that power so Thor can get back and forth
to earth.

anyway, I liked your articles.

Dumegg - 7/24/2011, 6:55 PM
@ ThreeBigTacos- we don't acrually see it hit the ground, but as they drive away with a knocked out thor,
the hammer streaks across the sky towards the ground.
ThomasRochester - 7/24/2011, 8:21 PM
Thanks again guys!!! :D
TheMyth - 7/24/2011, 8:32 PM
Regarding the Thor TIH thing: When folks reference it, I always feel the most logical thing to explain it (in a method to state that it was involving Thor) is that the lightning strike would have been Mjolnir falling to Earth in that scene, not Thor himself. I personally think it's a long-shot, but that is my best effort to act in favor of it.
Orphix - 7/25/2011, 2:15 AM
For those looking for a few more answers and a pretty chronology check this out.


It ain't perfect and is a work in progress. I haven't even seen CA:TFA yet so that will be my next project.

And will tidy up the Thor stuff in September when the DVD comes out.
blvdnoise - 7/25/2011, 5:51 AM
@Rochester I never caught that egg with the students being Jack McGee and Jim Wilson.. Good stuff!

@Orphix Checking it out now..
CorndogBurglar - 7/25/2011, 6:13 AM
@ CaptainCraptacular

okay, first of all, no. Its not a Thor reference. If you and your friend go watch the special features for Incredible Hulk, you'll see that whole scene is a reference to the comic Hulk: Grey. Nothing more. The thing you see falling is the rock Hulk through into the distance.

as for the storm and lightning...so, does that mean that from now on, every time there's a thunderstorm in a Marvel movie it must be a Thor reference? no. no, it does not. the storm going on was for dramatic effect, and like i said, the entire scene itself is a reference to Hulk: Grey.

I hate when people talk about that scene and swear it has something to do with Thor.
Orphix - 7/25/2011, 6:57 AM

Took the words right out of my mouth. I believe that that Hulk scene is in the Smokey Mountains (North Carolina) which is many miles away from New Mexico.

Also the dates don't add up at all. Thor is trapped back in Asgard when that happens. Unless that scene overlaps with The Avengers with Thors return to earth (extremely unlikely!) then it has nothing to do with Thor.

Lightening happens all the time.
CraptainAmerica - 7/25/2011, 7:10 AM
I've been waiting for the two that followed your first post. Great idea to run through all the cross pollenatin! Been a good read!

I'm hoping, like you, that Selvig was referencing Pym (as per the script) and that the African circle didn't just reference Vibranium or Black Panther. I'd like Black Panther to be introduced whilst Pym is working in Wakanda (as per Earth's Mightiest Heroes).

I'll second, third or whatever that Thor wasn't in TIH. I'm pretty sure Letterier debunked that long ago
Orphix - 7/25/2011, 7:51 AM
Is anybody else worried about Bruce Banner/The Hulk for the end of this film?

He's got no planned sequel?
Unconnected TV series in pre-production?
Whedon's love of suddenly killing off a beloved character?

Doesn't look good! :oP
ROBBEATZZZ - 7/25/2011, 8:27 AM
superotherside - 7/25/2011, 8:49 AM
awesome work!
ThomasRochester - 7/25/2011, 9:12 AM
@Oprhix that was awesome! i love how they did that, now Kevin Feige needs to say whether or not its true lol
Orphix - 7/25/2011, 9:27 AM
@ ThomasRochester

Cheers mate! :o)

Still a few bits I am not entirely satisfied with. But Rich Drees (Of FilmBuffOnline) is going to update soon so hopefully that will make some things clearer.

Paulley - 7/25/2011, 10:48 AM
When people talked about Thor in the thunderstorm scene, it was just the clouds form the shape of a face in the sky not that thor was actually in it

Similar to the S.F.X. dust in Lion King.

CorndogBurglar - 7/25/2011, 10:53 AM
@ Paulley

yeah, i saw Jesus Christ in my froot loops, too.
Paulley - 7/25/2011, 11:42 AM
lol yea.. though its usually frying pans and damp patches with the jesus one. Anyway im not saying it was intentional or just a trick of the eye/mind...

but what im saying is people go on like they think Thor flew across the screen or something.. when it was literally some oddly shaped clouds
Jefferys - 7/25/2011, 2:28 PM
@ Paulley - How bout the lightning that gets a close up?
Paulley - 7/25/2011, 3:08 PM
?? cant say i remember that.. show me a screen cap.

Anyway like previously stated the whole scene was just an adaption of Loeb's Hulk: Grey.. adding Thor in anyway just seems unlikely.

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