THE FANTASTIC FOUR: FIRST STEPS Director Reveals Whether Doctor Doom Will Appear - SPOILERS

THE FANTASTIC FOUR: FIRST STEPS Director Reveals Whether Doctor Doom Will Appear - SPOILERS

The Fantastic Four: First Steps director Matt Shakman has finally revealed whether the villainous Doctor Doom will show up in the Marvel Studios movie...

By MarkCassidy - Jun 03, 2025 05:06 PM EST
Filed Under: Fantastic Four

Given the fact that Robert Downey Jr. will soon step into the role of Doctor Doom in the MCU, and that the character is most closely associated with Marvel's First Family, fans have understandably been speculating that the villain could make his debut in The Fantastic Four: First Steps.

Now, director Matt Shakman has provided us with a pretty definitive answer.

Spoilers follow.

While speaking to Empire for the movie mag's latest issue, Shakman stated: "Doom is not a part of my film, and therefore not a part of my purview."

According to a few different sources, the post-credits scene that was attached to a recent test-screening did feature the villain, with Sue Storm returning to Franklin's crib to find Doom sitting beside the boy while holding his mask in his hands (he doesn't actually say anything, as far as we know).

Do Shakman's comments suggest that this leak is inaccurate? Not necessarily.

A post-credits stinger is not technically part of the movie it's attached to, and for all we know, another filmmaker might have helmed this sequence (just as the Russo Brothers did on Thunderbolts*) to set up the events of Avengers: Doomsday

At any rate, it sounds like we can forget about seeing Doom in the actual film. Some comic book fans feel that the megalomaniacal ruler of Latveria really should have been the first antagonist the FF faced in this reboot, but it's not too surprising that Marvel decided to go in a different direction after Doom featured in the team's previous big-screen outings.

First Steps stars Pedro Pascal (The Last of Us, Freaky Tales) as Reed Richards, aka Mr. Fantastic, Vanessa Kirby (Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning) as Sue Storm, aka the Invisible Woman, Joseph Quinn (Stranger Things, A Quiet Place Day One) as Johnny Storm, aka The Human Torch, Ebon Moss-Bachrach (The Punisher, The Bear) as Ben Grimm, aka the Thing, and Julia Garner (Wolf Man, Ozark) as the Silver Surfer.

Ralph Ineson will play Galactus, and Natasha Lyonne, Paul Walter Hauser and John Malkovich are also on board in undisclosed roles. 

"Set against the vibrant backdrop of a 1960s-inspired, retro-futuristic world, Marvel Studios' The Fantastic Four: First Steps introduces Marvel’s First Family—Reed Richards/Mister Fantastic (Pedro Pascal), Sue Storm/Invisible Woman (Vanessa Kirby), Johnny Storm/Human Torch (Joseph Quinn) and Ben Grimm/The Thing (Ebon Moss-Bachrach) as they face their most daunting challenge yet.

Forced to balance their roles as heroes with the strength of their family bond, they must defend Earth from a ravenous space god called Galactus (Ralph Ineson) and his enigmatic Herald, Silver Surfer (Julia Garner). And if Galactus’ plan to devour the entire planet and everyone on it weren’t bad enough, it suddenly gets very personal."

Matt Shakman directs The Fantastic Four: First Steps, which is set to hit theaters on July 25, 2025.

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Pampero
Pampero - 6/3/2025, 5:15 PM
he's bluffing
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 6/3/2025, 6:15 PM
Pedro Pascal licking a stick in a sexual way.

http://youtube.com/shorts/pPtcRVEPVFk?si=KQhVb1_-O8tuStXp

Pedro Pascal bossing Joaquin Phoenix around:

http://youtube.com/shorts/s_5ypoBC-BA?si=2rAjcu98128pRM1G
WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 6/3/2025, 6:48 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea - no one gives a rats ass except you
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 6/3/2025, 7:13 PM
@WhatIfRickJames -

Lots of people give a rat's ass.

Otherwise there would be no need for you to come at me, bro.

If only you gave as much of a rat's ass to begin all your sentences with a capitalized letter, and end all your sentences with punctuation.
WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 6/3/2025, 7:20 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea - the capitalization and punctuation police is back guys… hide your apostrophes…
bobevanz
bobevanz - 6/3/2025, 7:28 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea -
bobevanz
bobevanz - 6/3/2025, 7:29 PM
I found my new video to share every time you pop off with some dumbass shit
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 6/3/2025, 7:34 PM
@Pampero - I don't think he's bluffing.

I think Doom shows up very briefly in the post credit scene, which wasn't directed by him, so technically he's not lying.
Mandalorian47
Mandalorian47 - 6/3/2025, 5:16 PM
Cool don’t have to see the woke crap then! Maybe see it on Disney plus in oct
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/3/2025, 5:58 PM
@Mandalorian47 - So you DO have to see it. A-ha!
kylo0607
kylo0607 - 6/3/2025, 6:04 PM
@Mandalorian47 - You what?!

I will be seeing F4 at least 3 times at the cinema lol.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 6/3/2025, 6:17 PM
@ObserverIO -

Maybe see =/= do have to see.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/3/2025, 6:24 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea - That's what I told him!

oh wait, yeah now I see...
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 6/3/2025, 7:14 PM
@ObserverIO -

Yeah.

"Maybe" does not suggest a thing definitely is or definitely will be.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/3/2025, 7:28 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea - I think maybe that is actually 100% definitely for certain, perhaps.
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 6/3/2025, 7:36 PM
@kylo0607 - What if you see it the first time and it sucks? 🤔
kylo0607
kylo0607 - 6/4/2025, 4:52 AM
@Feralwookiee - I have a limitless card at my cinema, so i can go as many times as i want.

Even if if's bad, I'll probs go again for the Galactus scenes alone lol
Mortagon1978
Mortagon1978 - 6/3/2025, 5:16 PM
He'll probably be in a post credit scene shot by the Russo's, so technically not part of his film.
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 6/3/2025, 5:23 PM
@Mortagon1978 - Bingo!
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 6/3/2025, 5:36 PM
@Mortagon1978 - What I expected when it was first announced as seemed unlikely they would want to feature Doom for a fourth time in a row with F4 films, but then also didn't expect them to repeat doing Galactus yet either...

...a mention of Doom maybe but no more than that other than a possible tease in an end credit...

...that said Galactus was a frickin cloud last time and only one film, Doom for a fourth seemed unlikely till at least the 2nd F4 film when it is set in the main universe if only cos would they want to have him follow them from the alt on or use a variant.
kylo0607
kylo0607 - 6/3/2025, 6:06 PM
@Apophis71 - "but then also didn't expect them to repeat doing Galactus yet either..."

They didn't repeat Galactus, they are doing Galactus for the first time lol.

Or would you call that giant cloud fart from 2007 Galactus?
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 6/3/2025, 6:09 PM
@kylo0607 - Didn't I just say that????
kylo0607
kylo0607 - 6/3/2025, 6:10 PM
@Apophis71 - You did!

Don't mind me, just being a prick.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 6/3/2025, 6:18 PM
@Mortagon1978 -

Probably?

No, not probably.

Doctor Doom is not in Fantastic Bore.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 6/4/2025, 6:20 AM
@kylo0607 - No worries, but redoing a similar story that shows a source accurate Galactus even with an alt Surfer for the alt timeline I get, even whilst thinking it shouldnt have been in their first film when last time it was a cloud in name only and was 20yrs ago. F4 encountering Norrin and Doom I'd tend to want on 616 not another universe so that they can be in multiple films (inc the Silver Surfer maybe having his own solo films) during the next saga which was likely the original plan before opting to switch away from Kang.

I am NOT 100% onboard with all the decisions they have made for the Avengers and F4 films, they just are not enough of an issue for me that I auto reject them and can see the logic for those choices.
Simonsonrules
Simonsonrules - 6/3/2025, 5:19 PM
Shouldn't it be purview and then film?
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/3/2025, 6:00 PM
@Simonsonrules - You're right and therefore it should!
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 6/3/2025, 5:25 PM
Just like Jake didn’t do the fantastic four post credit scene after the thunderbolts, I don’t think Matt will do anything with Doom, but he’ll most definitely show up. So Matt isn’t lying here
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 6/3/2025, 5:31 PM
@MyCoolYoung - agreed

That rumored post credits scene could very well be true but shot by the Russo’s on the set of Doomsday given both RDJ and Kirby are already shooting for it
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/3/2025, 5:33 PM
Well it would be pretty insane to introduce Doom in Doomsday without even something like a post credit scene leading to it, right? Riiiiiiiiiight?
AllsGood
AllsGood - 6/3/2025, 5:35 PM
‘The Fantastic Four: First Steps’ Trailer Clears 202 Million Views In 24 Hours, Best for A Marvel Studios Non-Sequel.

Marvel has a Summer Box office Hit on their hands with the upcoming The Fantastic Four: First Steps, which saw its trailer in its first 24 hours clear 202 million views across all platforms after dropping on Tuesday.

That’s the third-best first-day traffic for a Marvel Studios movie’s first trailer after Deadpool & Wolverine (365M) and Spider-Man: No Way Home (355M). That said, it’s the best Marvel Studios has ever seen in traffic for a non-sequel movie.

READ HERE

https://deadline.com/2025/02/the-fantastic-four-the-first-steps-trailer-traffic-record-1236280256/

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AllsGood
AllsGood - 6/3/2025, 5:54 PM
@AllsGood - Social volume for Fantastic Four: First Steps hit close to a half million, which is higher than all recent Marvel titles excluding Deadpool & Wolverine which launched during the Super Bowl.
Irregular
Irregular - 6/3/2025, 6:21 PM
@AllsGood - Superman has a better traffic record honestly.
https://variety.com/2024/film/news/superman-trailer-views-most-watched-warner-bros-dc-history-1236256816/

250M views across all platforms.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 6/3/2025, 6:21 PM
@AllsGood -

We all know Fantastic Bore will bomb, just like most other 2025 Disney movies.

And deservedly so.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 6/3/2025, 6:22 PM
@AllsGood -

Deadline lies a lot.

Lots of things get a lot of social volume and then do the Flintstone Flop.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 6/3/2025, 6:26 PM
@Irregular - Great News for both movies. I will be watching both Opening Night.

Wilding is Right Both Movies have be Box Office Hits.

BUT the Stakes are Much Higher for Superman movie and the DCU.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 6/3/2025, 6:30 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea - NO Cure for what you have.

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MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 6/3/2025, 7:16 PM
@AllsGood -

I don't call you stupid.

Please don't call me stupid.

🤝
AllsGood
AllsGood - 6/3/2025, 7:20 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea - All your doing is Dumbing Down America.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 6/3/2025, 7:32 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea - "most other movies" lmao 3 out of 12? Maybe Elio or Tron Ares. That's not "most" then again your kind ain't too bright
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