IT: WELCOME TO DERRY Director Andy Muschietti On Pennywise's Origin And What It Means For Season 2 - SPOILERS

IT: WELCOME TO DERRY Director Andy Muschietti On Pennywise's Origin And What It Means For Season 2 - SPOILERS

It: Welcome to Derry director Andy Muschietti has explained the revelations about Pennywise the Clown's origin story and what that means for the planned second and third seasons.

By JoshWilding - Dec 16, 2025 03:12 PM EST
Filed Under: Horror
Source: FearHQ.com

In It: Welcome to Derry's season finale—titled "Winter Fire"—Pennywise was vanquished, but only after it was revealed that the entity experiences time differently from humans. To "It," all of time is happening simultaneously: past, present, and future.

Pennywise knows it dies decades from when this series takes place, but suggests that its death may, in fact, be its birth (and what led to the creature travelling back through time to kill the ancestors of The Losers' Club). 

Talking to Deadline (via FearHQ.com) about introducing the idea that, after being foiled in 1962, 1989, and 2016, Pennywise will next travel back to 1935, filmmaker Andy Muschietti explained that the idea was very much inspired by Stephen King's IT novel.

"His experience of time is non-linear. How is that and why, that’s a whole exploration that we intend to flesh out during the next two seasons, but that was pretty much [the idea] from the beginning," he said. "The pitch to Stephen King was we’re going to tell a story backwards, and it has to do with that hint."

This begs the question of whether an omnipresent Pennywise can change the story we know and perhaps even be revealed as having survived the events of IT: Chapter Two. Teasing how these revelations set up the planned, but not confirmed, Season 2 and Season 3, Muschietti noted, "There’s so much. We’re going to learn a lot of things about it."

"We are going to know more about the Bob Gray of things, and we are going to know more about Ingrid, because Ingrid was around in the 30s. Our second season happens in 1935, in theory. I think it’s a pretty tragic character. She’s a very specific, very unique character, because she’s a victim, but she’s a perpetrator too."

"She’s tricked into thinking that her dad is still there somewhere in the shadows of that monster, and she wants to liberate him, but the only way to see him and try to liberate him is by creating all these baits [and] all this pain, because she knows that he will show up," Muschietti added.

In a separate conversation with Entertainment Weekly, It: Welcome to Derry showrunner Jason Fuchs said the revelation that Marge is Richie Tozier's mother "ties in with the mystery that Andy has been hinting at, which is why we're telling this story in reverse." 

"The seeds of that are sewn in that specific moment when It reveals to Marge and to the audience that it knows exactly where this story is going, which raises questions certainly about where our story is going."

As Pennywise continues travelling further back, it's hard to shake the feeling that the monster will eventually find a way to free itself from its fate and live again in the present. What that will mean for the IT franchise moving forward remains to be seen, but Warner Bros. Discovery clearly sees the value in Bill Skarsgård's now-iconic clown.

Check out a new video detailing the actor's transformation into Pennywise below.

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Huttsbane
Huttsbane - 12/16/2025, 3:11 PM
Awesome show. Miles better than Stranger Things imo Bring on Season 2!!!
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 12/16/2025, 6:00 PM
@Huttsbane - Welcome to Derry is the best Netflix show ever.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 12/17/2025, 1:10 PM
@ObserverIO - the writing is incredibly hammy and quite often incredibly stupid. The intro to Pennywise was a great scene but the shows just not very good IMO. Muschietti is kinda a one hit wonder in my book.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 12/17/2025, 1:11 PM
@Huttsbane - nah Stranger Things doesn't have writing as bad as this.
EscapeMySight
EscapeMySight - 12/16/2025, 3:44 PM
Cannot wait for S2!! S1 was absolutely amazing!!!
SuperCat
SuperCat - 12/16/2025, 3:46 PM
F*ck you Richie for almost making me cry.

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EscapeMySight
EscapeMySight - 12/16/2025, 3:47 PM
@SuperCat - “Almost”.. Lucky.. 😭😭😭
LukeCage2155
LukeCage2155 - 12/16/2025, 3:57 PM
@SuperCat - User Comment Image
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 12/16/2025, 4:49 PM
@SuperCat - Pennywise gave Richie the surprised Pikachu look. I wish someone could edit a picture of Richie giving the middle finger in with Marge holding him back and Pennywise doing the confused cat look like the meme lol
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 12/16/2025, 3:49 PM
Muschietti doing some Damn good work with this franchise. Getting more backstory on Derry and IT has been great.
Irregular
Irregular - 12/16/2025, 4:01 PM
Damn that was really good! I wonder if he could re-write his fate now to make room for more Pennywise. That would be interesting as hell!
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 12/16/2025, 5:04 PM
@Irregular - I don't think It will rewrite it's fate but it did see a Non-Linear Past, Present, and Future due to the object being removed. So it witnessed time outside of Derry. So it probably witnessed possibilities now that it knows how it can escape. So it will probably try to unearth another object each season until it sees that Maturin or Gan keep intervening.
Irregular
Irregular - 12/16/2025, 7:46 PM
@SonOfAGif - I think, and this is a theory that I think what Muschetti is trying to do, is trying to make Pennywise go to a point where the whole "27 years thing" doesn't even matter. Maybe it was a possibility I thought in my head to elongate the character. I mean I could be wrong of course and that's fine, idc, but that's what I'm getting at really. He can really change everything now that he can anticipate events beforehand.

Does the Pennywise in 1935 after taking Bob, is the Pennywise that just took Bob....or is he the Pennywise now that has seen "everything" unfold and how he will die?
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 12/17/2025, 12:26 AM
@Irregular -


I really hope they don't change the rules just to milk the franchise but that's where it looks like it's headed.

What happened to the rule of 27 years he comes out of hibernation? So the pillar is removed and the rules don't apply anymore?

If he can see how he does then why didn't he stop his death.


More someone thinks about it the more bad it gets😆
McMurdo
McMurdo - 12/17/2025, 1:13 PM
@AmazingFILMporg - This show has been a gigantic let down. Havent watched the finale episode but holy shit episode 7 was bad.
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 12/17/2025, 11:58 PM
@McMurdo -


They're doing pennywise time travel😆


It's ridiculous
cadunovaes01
cadunovaes01 - 12/16/2025, 4:17 PM
Awesome series in a great franchise
ThorArms
ThorArms - 12/16/2025, 4:28 PM
This show was so dumb, but was entertaining at least.
SDCA27
SDCA27 - 12/17/2025, 1:06 AM
@ThorArms - exactly
SDCA27
SDCA27 - 12/17/2025, 1:15 AM
@ThorArms - I’m at the end of the last ep. It’s so not good. Again entertaining but not good. If this guy actually gets a hold of Batman I hope the rest of his team is really good.
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 12/16/2025, 5:37 PM
I liked this season enough to keep watching but the whole seeing through time thing is just a stupid addition that doesn't really line up with the films. Pennywise gives no indication that he knows Richie poses a threat to his life and would be basically unkillable if he could see into the future like this.
SDCA27
SDCA27 - 12/17/2025, 1:18 AM
@Nightwing1015 - oh that’s way more sense making than I’d expect post like the halfway point in the season
McMurdo
McMurdo - 12/17/2025, 1:13 PM
@Nightwing1015 - it's beyond stupid.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 12/16/2025, 6:09 PM
They can't exactly go forward unless Season 2 is set in the future. The earliest they could set a sequel is 2043.
So it's genius that Chapter 2 will be set in 1935, Chapter 3 in 1908 and so on. The sequels are prequels. The prequels are sequels. I love this novel storytelling idea.

It also does tie in with the overall King mythology wherein Pennywise is a kind of multiversal being.
AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 12/16/2025, 7:33 PM
Those last 2 episodes had me screaming “RICHIE” like….
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RealTurner
RealTurner - 12/16/2025, 8:05 PM
It doesn't work as presented but interesting enough. If he sees everything at the same time, then why does he get to experience it once (his demise) but then have a go-around changing things that made it happen? Also the second movie, with the losers as adults, would be IT's first experience; meaning the first movie, the losers as kids, would be completely different as he tries to stop the second movie happening. Why is it going backward in time starting from the third, not the second time?

And more and more. There's no point in digging down too deeply on this with the presented information. Ironically is actually does remove something that was a massive elephant in the background for almost the entire season--plot armor. Half the characters "can't" die because we know what happens to them. This revelation actually puts something back on the table--stakes. Like, anyone could die and IT could maybe even survive the events of the movies; that is massive, and something they need, but arguably they needed it from earlier in this season.

It's a clever way to make the backward direction work as they go forward--backward from here. But I don't think it will ever be super convincing in terms of internal-logic; more just a magic "this is how it works shut up" approach.
Monkeyballs2
Monkeyballs2 - 12/16/2025, 9:36 PM
Cool. More annoying kids. More lazy ass turtle references. More shitty version of Pennywise. More terrible writing and weak scares”. Muschietti thinks he’s a talented writer/director. Kind of like how Argentinians think they’re really Europeans. Lots of impostor syndrome and delusions of grandeur.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 12/17/2025, 1:14 PM
@Monkeyballs2 - first movie was solid. He's made nothing but hot garbage since then.
Monkeyballs2
Monkeyballs2 - 12/17/2025, 3:03 PM
@McMurdo - It was solid with the exception of Pennywise. The character design is awful. The acting is ludicrous. And also, the score is generic filler from start to end.
SDCA27
SDCA27 - 12/17/2025, 1:05 AM
All the shit talking on this site and people liked this? It was entertaining but it 100 percent turned into a pile of crap after like ep 5
Beer85
Beer85 - 12/17/2025, 2:41 AM
Like most of Muschiettis work, everything looks fake and AI. Like a Playstation 3 game. stuff like american flags and sunsets are done with CGI and greenscreen.

I used to think that "The Flash" movie looked like that becouse WB reshoot the thing like twice and at some point after James Gunn was hired they stopped caring. Now I have changed my mind and think that the director actually thniks this sh*t looks good.

That early 90s miniseries is far from perfect, but at least Pennywise comes across as somebody kids might actually talk to instead of this 9 foot monster.

That episode with the kids riding their bikes...I mean it was like a music video from 2000.

BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 12/17/2025, 8:05 PM
This was [frick]ing AWESOME! Love what they did with this show and looking forward to how they continue moving forward.

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