Today Is The Day IRON MAN Dies In The MCU's Timeline - Did Marvel Studios Make A Mistake Killing Tony Stark?

Today Is The Day IRON MAN Dies In The MCU's Timeline - Did Marvel Studios Make A Mistake Killing Tony Stark? Today Is The Day IRON MAN Dies In The MCU's Timeline - Did Marvel Studios Make A Mistake Killing Tony Stark?

According to the Marvel Cinematic Universe's official timeline, today is the day Tony Stark, a.k.a. Iron Man, made the ultimate sacrifice to save everything. However, was it a mistake to kill the hero?

By JoshWilding - Oct 17, 2023 01:10 PM EST
Filed Under: Iron Man

Today, October 17, 2023, is officially the day that Tony Stark dies. That's according to the Marvel Cinematic Universe's official timeline, anyway! 

When Avengers: Endgame was released in 2019, little did we know that a global pandemic was on the horizon and, on a less serious note, even the end of the DCEU was looming. In fact, when the movie jumped from 2018 to 2023, the latter felt like it was a long, long way away. 

Well, here we are and the internet is now mourning Iron Man all over again. As you'll no doubt recall, the Armored Avenger outsmarted Thanos and subsequently used the Infinity Stones to snap him and his army out of existence. With that, Earth-616 was saved...but at the cost of Tony's life (using the Infinity Stones nearly killed Thanos, so for a human, the consequences were deadly). 

Spider-Man: Far From Home dealt with the fallout from Iron Man's demise, but it won't be until Ironheart and Armor Wars that we learn more about the impact the hero's sacrifice has had on the wider MCU. 

As for Robert Downey Jr., he's moved on to other projects, including an Oscar-worthy performance in Christopher Nolan's Oppenheimer. Rumours persist that the actor will eventually reprise the role of Iron Man, albeit for what's likely to be a brief final send-off in Avengers: Secret Wars

Since Avengers: Endgame was released, many fans have argued that the MCU's quality has declined. If so, it's not something which can be blamed on Iron Man's absence. However, did Marvel Studios make a mistake by killing its most iconic and beloved Avenger? (not to mention its biggest box office draw)

That's a question we're giving you the opportunity to answer in the poll below! We love you 3000, Tony...

The grave course of events set in motion by Thanos that wiped out half the universe and fractured the Avengers ranks compels the remaining Avengers to take one final stand in Marvel Studios’ grand conclusion to twenty-two films, Avengers: Endgame.

Directed by Anthony and Joe Russo and written by Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely, the movie features an epic ensemble which includes Robert Downey Jr., Chris Evans, Mark Ruffalo, Chris Hemsworth, Scarlett Johansson, Jeremy Renner, Don Cheadle, Paul Rudd, Brie Larson, Karen Gillan, Danai Gurira, Benedict Wong, Jon Favreau, Bradley Cooper, Gwyneth Paltrow, and Josh Brolin.

For a time, Avengers: Endgame was the highest-grossing movie ever released with $2.799 billion at the worldwide box office. However, Avatar's re-release during the pandemic saw that return to the top spot. 

Avengers: Endgame is now streaming on Disney+.

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OptimusPrime114 - 10/17/2023, 1:12 PM
Yes, it was a mistake.
Goldboink - 10/17/2023, 1:17 PM
@OptimusPrime114 -
No, it was the right thing to do.
HammerLegFoot - 10/17/2023, 1:38 PM
@Goldboink - who cares he'll return at some point.
Origame - 10/17/2023, 1:40 PM
@HammerLegFoot - closest thing is a glorified cameo in secret wars or a recast. Neither of which I'd call a full return.
HammerLegFoot - 10/17/2023, 1:42 PM
@Origame - I'm going with the full recast route. Yea RDJ may cameo in secret wars but after that full on recast for MCU V2.0
Goldboink - 10/17/2023, 2:03 PM
@HammerLegFoot -
They will focus on FF and X-Men with whoever else of the newbies is actually working.
Origame - 10/17/2023, 2:23 PM
@HammerLegFoot - yeah but then he's basically a new character
LiteraryJoe - 10/17/2023, 11:24 PM
@Origame - Do you think that also applies to spidey? Genuinely curious, not trying to debate lol
Origame - 10/18/2023, 4:18 AM
@LiteraryJoe - well no. Spiderman has always been defined performance wise by how he acted in the comics.

Rdj made a different character when he made his Tony stark. Tony used to be very stoic before rdj.

Either a new iron man will be more in line with the comics or it'll just be an rdj impression. Both of which will come off as a different person without the actual rdj.
LiteraryJoe - 10/18/2023, 4:30 AM
@Origame - Very well worded. I also think it’s important to note how comics Tony has been changed by RDJs version, he even looks like RDJ. Since 2008 those movies have been inspiring the comic version that existed first, now how will that bit affect the next portrayal even if they aren’t looking to the screen? Will it always feel like watered down RDJ because comic Tony feels like that at times now? The turmoil is real for me on this one.
Th3Batman - 10/17/2023, 1:12 PM
Killing off any character because the actor isn't available is always a mistake. If RDJ was asking for too much $$$, they should've simply recast him and moved on.
Fogs - 10/17/2023, 1:40 PM
@Th3Batman - Tough decision but I agree. Of course that was the real reason.
dracula - 10/17/2023, 1:48 PM
@Th3Batman - kind of hard to recast after 10 years, unless you just do a reboot.

Like could you imagine if the x men movies had continued and recast Wolverine after Logan
JDL - 10/17/2023, 2:19 PM
@Th3Batman - It's like if you recast your wife. You're fine with it but the kids not so much.
Shivermetimbers - 10/17/2023, 2:38 PM
@JDL - HAHAHAHAHAHA!
HashTagSwagg - 10/17/2023, 1:16 PM
He got out before it all completely went to sh1t. If those "writers" had gotten theirs hand on him or Cap they'd have gotten the same humiliation ritual as Thor and Strange.
Lokiwasright - 10/17/2023, 1:17 PM
I never really cared for iron man. Never cared for Robin either. I don't hate him but I think iron man hype is overrated.

Guy was a jobber and made rude remarks the entire time.

SanFranLand - 10/17/2023, 1:56 PM
@Lokiwasright - Especially if you agree/side with Loki. Then he was downright intolerable.
ClintThaHamster - 10/17/2023, 9:16 PM
@SanFranLand - Breaking news: @JokerWasRight has some issues with how Batman handled things.
eagc1995 - 10/17/2023, 1:19 PM
"That's according to the Marvel Cinematic Universe's official timeline, anyway!"

Correction.......the MCU Wiki timeline.
bkmeijer1 - 10/17/2023, 2:33 PM
@eagc1995 - yeah, I don't think it was ever officially confirmed? Just really well made educated guesses
eagc1995 - 10/17/2023, 3:35 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Yeah, all we do know for certain is that its set in Octuber 2023 due to Far From Home. but that's about it.
bkmeijer1 - 10/17/2023, 4:55 PM
@eagc1995 - I'm not even putting my stock in that. After Homecoming, I'm not sure the Spider-Man movies can get years right either (8 years later my ass)
eagc1995 - 10/17/2023, 5:17 PM
@bkmeijer1 - I mean the recent official MCU timeline book does say it occurs in Fall (but it doesn't say the month nor the day), so that does put the movie in Sep, Oct or Nov, so it lines up with FFH which occurs in summer
bkmeijer1 - 10/18/2023, 3:00 AM
@eagc1995 - I guess. I meant moreso the year. But if the official book says it (had no idea it was released already), then I can believe it
eagc1995 - 10/18/2023, 2:02 PM
@bkmeijer1 - I mean even without FFH, it was clear from Endgame itself that it was set in 2023, as IW is set in 2018 and it occurs 5 years later, which is 2023 and Ebony Maw says that the other Nebula is from 9 years in the future, so if they are in 2014 and she's from 9 years later, then its 2023.

The only thing that wasn't clear was when in 2023 it happened, so with FFH being set in the summer and them saying the students had to restart the school year, then that put the film in fall and the book later reaffirmed that yes a Spider-Man movie was for once correct with its placement.

But here's a pic with the Endgame section page of the book in case you are interested
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8oneM_XUAA_D29?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
bkmeijer1 - 10/18/2023, 2:31 PM
@eagc1995 - yeah, Endgame putting some years as title cards and dialogue mentioning certain years did clear up a lot. Especially also because I also remember Vision at one point also incorrectly mentioning how many years passed (in Civil War I think)
eagc1995 - 10/18/2023, 7:11 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Yeah Vision was talking about how the events of Iron Man 1 was 8 years ago which placed it in 2008, however the problem was that if Avengers was in 2012, then that means Iron Man 2/Thor/Hulk was in 2011 as they mention Thor happened the previous year, thus that means Iron Man 1 was in 2010 or Homecoming was actually semi-accurate cause if Iron Man 1 was in Early-Mid 2008, then Iron Man 2/Thor/Hulk would be Late 2008 and Avengers would be 2009 (thus making it 7 years, not 8 when Homecoming occurs, but they would've gotten it close if Jon Watts was doing under this)

Now the timeline book seems to lean towards yes Vision was correct and Iron Man 1 was in 2008, but they are retconning when Iron Man 2/Thor/Hulk occurs as it would no longer be 6 months after Iron Man 1, nor it will be a year before Avengers, as now Marvel officially considers Fury's Big Week to have happened in 2010, 2 years after Iron Man and 2 years before Avengers.
bkmeijer1 - 10/19/2023, 2:06 AM
@eagc1995 - aaand it just got confusing again. Maybe I should just pick up the book. Or not, since Phase 4 it's hard to keep track of everything so I don't really mind the timeline anymore
eagc1995 - 10/19/2023, 3:57 AM
@bkmeijer1 - Yeah the timeline of the Phases 1 projects other than Avengers and Cap 1 is a total mess.
ThorArms - 10/17/2023, 1:22 PM
It was the right move

HashTagSwagg - 10/17/2023, 1:27 PM
@FireandBlood - They already paid those off in the first Avengers film when Stark carried that nuke into space and and Steve proved he was more than just a lab rat when he led everyone during the NY attack.
KaptainKhaos - 10/17/2023, 1:22 PM
Honestly no, while I think RDJr is a great actor, it was getting tiresome of how they kept forcing Tony into other people's stories. They completely ruined Spider Man by making him Iron Man Jr
FireandBlood - 10/17/2023, 1:22 PM
No. He had one of, if not, the best, full circle arcs a characters has ever had, and we were all lucky to actually get to see it end before the character became stagnant and outstayed his welcome. Same with Cap.

MotherGooseUPus - 10/17/2023, 2:12 PM
@FireandBlood -

couldn't agree more
Radders - 10/18/2023, 8:49 AM
@FireandBlood - I couldn't agree more. They don't need to go back, they need to invest the same passion and talent in bringing other characters up
Fares - 10/17/2023, 1:24 PM
It was one of their best decisions. If the MCU can't live without Tony Stark and Steve Rogers even, then it doesn't earn the name of "Marvel Cinematic Universe".
FireandBlood - 10/17/2023, 1:26 PM
@Fares - 👆 this x1000
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