JUSTICE LEAGUE Director Zack Snyder Teases DC FanDome And Shares A New Shot Of Ben Affleck As Batman

@manofillintent1 - true

@LameLuka - they dont owe him shit.

He is far from the first director to be fired from a movie

He doesnt understand these characters

The studio is the one who finances the movie

They are DC characters

You dont do what the boss wants you get fired.

Very few directors get full control of their films, Nolan, Hitchcock, Kubrick, Wells. Directors a lot more sucessful than Snyder in both box office and critical reception.

@dracula - well then Warner Bros shouldn't have brought him back after people bitched and moaned about MOS and BvS. If anything its their fault for all of this 🤷‍♂️

@LameLuka - Well ill agree to that, yeah shouldn't have brought him back, Man Of Steel was a good start, but even with the ultimate cut of bvs was at best decent and he botched Batman. Also a movie that is 3 hours long should be a lot better than decent

@Necropolitan - yes it is. Strangely I dont think they ever officially released this image, to go with the Superman and Wonder Woman reveal images

@obredaan - one character figuring out someone's secret identity doesn't render the entire idea of secret identities pointless.

Lex Luthor in particular has learned numerous characters secret identities in various iterations of comics and other media so the fact it's happened here isn't an oddity and it doesn't defy the notion that Bruce would keep his identity as Batman a secret in these movies any more than it would with any other iteration of these characters. Plus in the movies, Lex (so far, given how little we've seen of him relatively speaking) has kept everyone's identities secret - the information is his alone to do with as he pleases, when he pleases.

If he decides to team up with someone like Deathstroke and provide him with that information (and I'm pretty sure Deathstroke has learned Bruce's identity in the comics at some point or other) then that obviously creates a personal threat to Bruce. But what you often find in comics, and I'm sure would be the case in the movies, is that certain characters/villains will learn heroes' identities, but for whatever reason won't share that information - usually due to wanting some kind of advantage, or even just out of pride or ego.

With all that said, one person, or even a small group of people, learning Batman is Bruce Wayne wouldn't mean that Bruce should give up on keeping it secret. In fact, he's the type to come up with some sort of plan to somehow restore the secret in some way, or at least cast enough doubt in the public eye that people question it.

Realistically there would already be people who suspect him based on him being in Gotham, having the money (and tech via his company) to become Batman, and the motive based on his parents' murder. Suddenly saying "I'm gonna restore the ruins of my family home as a not so secret base for the Super Friends" would pretty much just confirm those suspicions, which is why the idea of Wayne Manor becoming the Hall of Justice is such a bad idea.

@DemonTweeks - I do get the feeling some of it may be reactionary listening to what Zack has said in various interviews and fan interactions, but I feel like a lot of it is genuinely what he originally envisioned.

I have no idea what to think about his Martian Manhunter comments, for example. It's pretty clear in MoS and BvS that Swanwick is human so unless Martian Manhunter assumed his identity after BvS for whatever reason it makes no sense for him to suddenly be revealed as Martian Manhunter in Justice League, unless there's a really long, convoluted explanation.

In terms of tone, I actually get the feeling Zack was less than honest during production before he left the project originally, rather than being dishonest now. I feel like it was always intended to be similar tonally to MoS (less dark than BvS but still quite grounded and serious) but the backlash against BvS probably led up WB execs at the time mandating a lighter tone and Zack probably had to go around telling everyone that that was his idea from the start. But I don't think a two-part Justice League movie dealing with Superman coming back to life brainwashed by the villains/Darkseid invading the Earth/Batman sacrificing himself to stop Darkseid and prevent the Knightmare future (as has been reported to be the original plan) is something that can be done in a light-hearted way. I also think that relates to Black suit Superman - Zack probably wanted it, WB probably blocked it for being "too dark" and now Zack is working it back in.

I think he was sincere about Cyborg being central to the movie from the start though, I'm pretty sure I remember him saying something similar back when Ray Fisher was first cast, like how Cyborg kind of symbolically tied the team together (human like Batman, accidentally created like Flash, tied to Wonder Woman and Aquaman by the mother boxes, and wrestling with his humanity much like Superman had done previously).

But yeah, I'm interested to see how this turns out. I'm almost certain it'll be way better than the theatrical version, but even then it might still not be great. And I don't think we're genuinely getting Snyder's original vision because so much changed during the original production that he'd have to reshoot 75% of the movie - what I think we're gonna get is the version Zack has been thinking about ever since he left. The next draft, if that makes sense.