5 Characters Who Deserve a Second (Or Third) Chance

5 Characters Who Deserve a Second (Or Third) Chance

Some movies are bad, but some are so bad they force characters into retirement. Here's my list of characters who I think deserve a second (or third) chance at stardom.

Editorial Opinion
By Lantern - Aug 09, 2019 08:08 PM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Studios
Source: Comic Book Movie

Over the years, there have been bad movies, and then there have been movies that are so bad that characters literally go into retirement until people can forget those movies ever happened. But should those ill-advised attempts at bringing these characters to life stop us from ever seeing them in their full glory? No! Blame the script, blame the director, blame the actor, but the character had absolutely no say in the matter of them being butchered. For that reason, I have put together a list of 5 characters who deserve another chance at the big screen so that mainstream audiences can see just what they have to offer.


 

Ghost Rider


Nicolas Cage has done more for the meme community than can ever be truly comprehended, but the Ghost Rider character deserved more grit and moral questioning than his 2007 debut ever allowed for. Having made his first appearance in Marvel Spotlight #5 in 1972, Ghost Rider has been one of Marvel’s darkest and most brutal characters throughout its history. With a rogues gallery that includes Blackheart, Mephisto, Vengeance, and more of the most twisted paranormal villains within comics, Ghost Rider has the potential to have some of the most visually interesting fight scenes of any character. His own iconic appearance (a flaming head and motorcycle) is a visual feast in itself and when you add his chain and some magic wielding villains to the ensemble, this movie looks ripe for some Doctor Strange level action sequences.

Of course, Robbie Reyes featured prominently on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D and, while that version of the character captured some of the moral ambiguity within Ghost Rider and his obligation to the devil he sold his soul to, we have to admit that the ABC budget held this character back from being the full visceral figure that he deserves to be. With the coming of Blade with Mahershala Ali, a Marvel Knights label could begin to form and Ghost Rider deserves to be given his time to shine.

 

Daredevil


It’s clear after seeing Matt Murdock on Netflix for three compelling seasons of fighting off mob bosses, supervillains, and ninjas that there is a lot that you can do with this character and while I would love to see Charlie Cox return to the role in the greater MCU, I just don’t think Kevin Feige would. That being said, The Man Without Fear will undoubtedly return and there are even rumors that he’ll show up as Peter Parker’s lawyer in the next Spider-Man movie, but moving past that, Daredevil could open up a street-level crime fighting element that the MCU lacks at the moment. Daredevil has some of the most iconic storylines in Marvel Comics (Born Again, End of Days, Badlands, Shadowland) and these stories would give writers plenty of content for legendary trilogy.

Whether we see Daredevil again on the big screen or within Disney+, I’m sure that Marvel will have more than enough material to draw from to continue making this character known as one of the deepest character studies within their roster. If we do find ourselves faced with Daredevil being just a side character within someone else’s movies, I would honestly see it as a sorely missed opportunity to bring out some of the best stories within Marvel Comics.

 

Green Lantern


Yikes, Green Lantern (2011). I have to say, this was the first time I had ever left a comic book movie so disappointed that I needed to rant about how bad it was on the internet. Green Lantern has been my personal favorite character ever since I first watched the Justice League Animated Series with John Stewart. Green Lantern stories give great metaphors towards dealing with emotions and concepts of bravery. As one of the core members of the Justice League, Green Lantern is bound to get a movie in the next few years, and personally I do hope they at least include John Stewart in that movie to give the large number of fans who were introduced to him before any other Lanterns their moment. Blackest Night and Sinestro Corp War are both stories that could play out over multiple movies and even be events within the DC Universe. There is such a rich visual element with Green Lantern that just needs to be held up by a story that doesn’t involve a punching a cloud. Taking this source material seriously could lead to a huge new sci-fi franchises and Warner Bros. should be looking to execute on both a visual and metaphorical level to compete within that competitive genre.

Catwoman


Widely proclaimed as the worst comic book movie of all time, Catwoman (2004) may have been a contributor to the lack of representation in comic book movies for so many years. However, as we have seen the bar raised on genre filmmaking and the number of female-led movies rise, I argue that Catwoman is a prime candidate for redemption. Catwoman is one of the original femme-fatales within comics and has been leading the life of a criminal with a concious since she was introduced in Batman #1 in 1940. Since then, writers like Jeph Loeb (When In Rome, The Long Halloween) have made her one of Batman’s most interesting side-characters with motivations and methods uniquely her own.

With films like Atomic Blonde and Red Sparrow becoming relatively popular without the backings of a cinematic universe or franchise, Catwoman could very well have a superhero spy/heist movie that stands out among other films. The potential of having a fiercely independent, female-led anti-hero movie (that wouldn’t break the bank because of her lower budget abilities) should give DC and Warner Bros. reason to investigate how a film like this would work and who would be the right fit for the role to get fans excited.

 

Fantastic Four


I’m sure this comes as no surprise. Marvel’s first family has had a rough two decades. As pioneer characters for the brand, the Fantastic Four should be at the center of conversations about Marvel, but they’re not. Fantastic Four (2005) may not have been the worst exposure for these characters at the time, but the film definitely does not hold up when you place it next to even average comic book movies today. Fantastic Four (2015) was the nail in the coffin that got these characters placed on the shelf. It’s a shame that these characters have already missed out on events in the MCU like Civil War because the character moments within the comics for this event were spectacular and really worked to define moral differences between Sue and Reed.

When the Fantastic Four do make their first appearance, I hope that Marvel finds ways to compensate for lost time and puts them in contact with the greater MCU in a big way. This team is a pillar within the Marvel Universe and has solved many of the biggest challenges Earth faced in the comics (e.g. Galactus). I have no doubt that we will get a comics accurate Fantastic Four and look forward to sharing my love of these characters with mainstream audiences once they finally see how great they really are.

 

Conclusion

That's my list of characters that deserve redemption after years of being sidelined after a devestating blow. Let me know what you think of this list and tell me if you have any other characters that deserve to be given a second or third chance at stardom!
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JDL
JDL - 8/10/2019, 2:41 AM
Ghost Rider.

Probably the best chance of any of MCU ones in the near future. For one thing he can stand alone better than most. Here is an idea. What if instead of this being in the MCU we bring over characters of this ilk and put them into Sony's playground. Call it MCU-Dark. Thinking of Blade, Brother Voodoo, Moon Knight, Dr. Druid. etc. ?

Daredevil

They would have to commit to street level and at 3 films Max per year that ain't happening anytime soon. Too bad.

Green Lantern.

This is a character of the WW II generation even when its been re-skinned. It just doesn't work for younger viewers. Frankly most of DC's go to characters are of similar vintage and that's their biggest problem. If you are over powered but you have an Achilles heel of some sort you might................ no scratch that you are a DC character. MCU characters tend to be less overpowered with only one ::cough:: exception. Further Marvels characters for the most part 'belong' to the baby boomers, a generation younger than DC. Their characters are thus much closer to today's audience.

Catwoman

Doable.

Fantastic Four.

Sometimes what works in the comics doesn't translate to film.The F4 may well be that animal. One major problem I see is that you start with a group instead of ending with one like in the first Avengers and as a result there is less character development going on per principal character in your first few movies which is (imo) a problem.

It's still still doable but it needs something to help people overlook the relative lack of character development for the first couple of movies or else reduce 3 of the characters to minions and let it be the Reed Richards show.

As always YMMV.
Lantern
Lantern - 8/13/2019, 11:56 PM
@JDL - I agree, Ghostrider is probably the most likely to get a second chance in the coming years. Hopefully it's worked into the MCU in a way that keeps him badass. I would disagree on Green Lantern though, I think that the classic DC characters' biggest strength is that people know them. Putting them in strong stories that challenge the morals and essences of those characters is the way I'd find them to be most interesting.
JDL
JDL - 8/14/2019, 2:01 AM
@Lantern - What people are you thinking of that 'know' GL ? Cause it's not nearly as many folks as you think it is. The comics crowd that knows and liked the GL character at one time or another is a pretty small number and they are pretty much confined to the US and Canada. Being overly generous I'll give you a quarter million of those. That's nowhere near enough.

Overseas pretty much only knows GL from the movie so any new effort starts with one foot in the grave. They never, or rarely, got the comics. It's not impossible but the first new try, barring a miracle, is going to do weakly at the box office. At best something in the $400M to $500M range with any character not in the trinity + Aquaman. On that sort of expected B.O. you are looking at no more than $130-$150M production cost unless you want to run a loss leader.

I know that a large part of my trouble with the character is the lame as hell origin in the comics and the achilles heel stupidity. These are overcomeable I guess but I don't think WB has the balls to change things that much. And the thing is you need another strong character or two. Falsh should be one of those but based on what I saw in JL it's a non starter which shocks me. The best portrayal of a fast guy to date is, imo, quicksilver in the X-men. Watching a red, brown, rtc. blur turns out to be not that entertaining yet that what almost all of them choose to show. So Flash may not be much of a help. Plus I don't care for the personality of the character I've seen on screen.
Lantern
Lantern - 8/15/2019, 9:02 PM
@JDL - I'd disagree there. I think that the Animated Series gave green lantern a relatively recent surge in awareness among non-comic book readers. Aside from the massive merchandising business that DC runs globally with the logos of all of their characters, I think that far more people are familiar with Green Lantern than who knew a character like Ant-Man before he took off in MCU. DC has really strong brand awareness for their characters as they've been in multiple forms of media and productions throughout the company's life. I think that if a movie looked like it was going to "get Green Lantern right", a lot of people would turn up. I think that stands for a long list of DC characters as was evidenced by Aquaman doing so well. How many hardcore Aquaman fans are there in the world? Probably not a lot, but James Wan capitalized on familiar elements that made the character recognizable but distinctly new and different. In the right creative hands, I think that Green Lantern would be an absolute hit for Warner Bros.
JDL
JDL - 8/16/2019, 12:42 AM
@Lantern - Do some research on merch. 1) DC does way less than Marvel and has done so for a long time. The 2016 figure was $4.5B way less than marvel 2) Year end year out the vast majority of DC merch sales are the trinity. The rest are pitiful. They fired Mattel in 2018 and are starting over with a new company so things might change. Also you may get bumps with a good movies like Aquaman but I haven't any numbers in that regards. But getting back to the point. Merch sales outside of the US* are only for the very top characters and GL isn't one and its the foreign audience that kills or makes these kind of movies.

*excluding DVD's and the like.

As for animation I only found one GL tv series, it lasted a year , and two direct to video movies that sold 200,000 & 265,000 units. All were 2009 to 2011 That is not a wave. Not sure wth you are referring to about something more recent.

Finally Yes. Ant-Man was a relatively unknown property and it did decent and slightly better than decent B.O. in its two outings. In my opinion a lot of its business the first time out was the good will earned by other MCU movies. What DC does not have, in large part because of the interpretation they did of Supes. As always YMMV.
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