Apparently, There Are Only Two People Marvel Studios' Kevin Feige Would Refuse To Work With Again

Apparently, There Are Only Two People Marvel Studios' Kevin Feige Would Refuse To Work With Again

In the new book, MCU: The Reign of Marvel Studios, it's claimed that there are only two people Marvel Studios boss Kevin Feige would flat-out refuse to welcome back to the MCU...

By MarkCassidy - Oct 23, 2023 11:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Studios

By all accounts, Kevin Feige is a fairly laid back, affable guy who is always open to collaboration and listening to new ideas - but as the head of one of the biggest movie studios in the world, he is obviously going to have to put his foot down on some things!

In an excerpt from the new tell-all book, MCU: The Reign of Marvel Studios (via Dexerto.com), it's claimed that out of all the actors, directors and producers that have come and go in the Marvel Cinematic Universe over the years, there are only two people that Feige would refuse to work with again.

"If the Inhumans could be rehabilitated, apparently everyone in MCU history was on Feige’s call list—except Edward Norton, the franchise’s first Bruce Banner, and Joss Whedon, whose Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. characters remained in limbo."

Not a massive shocker, is it?

Norton was replaced by Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner in The Avengers after reportedly becoming very difficult and uncooperative during The Incredible Hulk's production, and Feige didn't sugar-coat his official statement at the time.

"We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in The Avengers," Feige said. "Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. The Avengers demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert [Downey Jr.], Chris [Hemsworth], Chris [Evans], Sam [Jackson], Scarlett [Johansson], and all of our talented casts."

As for Whedon, you might assume Feige's reluctance to welcome the disgraced filmmaker back into the fold stems from the various allegations of unprofessional and outright abusive behaviour (which could also be a factor), but it actually has more to do with their experiences working together on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

We have heard rumors that the two butted heads about the direction Whedon wanted to take the Marvel TV Avengers spin-off series, and the book suggests that Feige wasn't too happy Whedon's plans for the show because they contradicted the events of Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

In the forward to another new MCU-focused book, Marvel Studios: The Marvel Cinematic Universe - An Official Timeline, Feige basically confirmed that AOS and the other defunct Marvel-based shows are "canonical," but take place in a different timeline in the Multiverse.

"The timeline presented in this book is specific to the MCU’s Sacred Timeline through Phase 4. But, as we move forward and dive deeper into the Multiverse Saga, you never know when timelines may just crash or converge (hint, hint/spoiler alert).”

Did you guess the two names straight away? Let us know in the comments section.

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Goldboink
Goldboink - 10/23/2023, 11:33 AM
Apparently guys have egos
Matchesz
Matchesz - 10/23/2023, 11:49 AM
@Goldboink - and Feige is Mahatma Gandhi ?
Goldboink
Goldboink - 10/23/2023, 12:16 PM
@Matchesz -
I was referring to the both of them.
DudeGuy
DudeGuy - 10/23/2023, 11:40 AM
“ the need for an actor who embodies the spirit of our other talented cast members.”
So get rid of a solid actor for Ruffalo who is a mediocre actor at best. Got it.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 10/23/2023, 11:41 AM
WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 10/23/2023, 11:42 AM
@AllsGood - no, but there is ME... and MEAT
Vigor
Vigor - 10/23/2023, 11:46 AM
Off topic -- I just watched werewolf by night in color. I enjoyed it the first time around in b&w, but seeing it again after all the negative mcu propaganda, and it is just sooo good.

We get introduced to 3 awesome characters. I just want to see Jack and Ted's friendship some more. And Elsa Bloodstone kicks serious ass with a great attitude to go along with it. Really need some midnight sons/suns. They should be fast tracking that side of the mcu
EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 10/23/2023, 11:49 AM
@Vigor - This can't be. Everything in the MCU sucks now, without exception.
Vigor
Vigor - 10/23/2023, 12:09 PM
@EskimoJ - without exception 🙅🏾
Goldboink
Goldboink - 10/23/2023, 12:19 PM
@Vigor -
It's virtually perfect both in color and b&w. Tone, subject matter, characters and execution.

I have been waiting since 1971. to see Man Thing on screen.

Beautiful.
Vigor
Vigor - 10/23/2023, 12:30 PM
@Goldboink - they did him so well
Creepy
Intimidating in size
Design 👌🏾
Sympathetic
Powerful

I loved every second of him on screen
Goldboink
Goldboink - 10/23/2023, 12:35 PM
@Vigor -

Let's do sushi!
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 10/23/2023, 1:35 PM
@Vigor - Werewolf by Night was awesome and is the kind of thing they should be doing to introduce new characters and then run with them. It set up the monster side of the MCU perfectly.

We've been getting too many projects of characters that we won't see again for years on end, if ever.

Moon Knight is a good example. While I disliked his show I know people did like it. But what's next for him? Nothing that we know of. No announcement of a season 2. No plans for him to be in any movies. Nothing.

She-Hulk is another show I didn't like, but I also know it has its fans. And again, no ides if we'll ever see her again. And if we do it won't be for some time.

White Vision went out into the world. I know the planned that VisionQuest show, but is that even a thing anymore?

Shang Chi was a great movie and we haven't seen or heard about him since.

This is a big problem in my opinion. They've flooded their franchise and now everything feels unimportant because God knows when we'll see Amy of these characters or plot points get picked up, like evil Dr Strange at the end of MoM.

I like to think Blade will at least build on the monsters side of things if that ever actually finds its legs.

And Loki is quite literally the only thing pushing the multiverse's actual storyline. Spider-Man 3 and Dr Strange 2 dealt with the impacts of the Multiverse becoming active again. And Ant Man 3 introduced us to Kang. But really, what's pushing the actual story? Only Loki.

Even the Infinity Saga had after credit scenes and small scenes embedded in them that at least pushed it along slowly. A lot of those movies didn't deal with the Infinity Saga directly as far as the story, but they did have Infinity Stones in a lot of them. And we knew that every movie we watched had characters we would see again soon.

Now it's like a guessing game as to what characters actually matter.

Werewolf by Night was a fantastic set up for more Elsa Bloodstone or the Midnight Sons. But I highly doubt we'll see either of them for a verrrrrrrry long time, which is a shame. Because Werewolf By Night is arguably the best thing we got in Phase 4.
Vigor
Vigor - 10/23/2023, 1:44 PM
@CorndogBurglar - damn man I agree totally here. It's how I've felt for a long time

But I am confident about she hulk and Kate bishop. Because the former is an established avenger. And I already know where the latter shows up but it'd be a spoiler
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 10/23/2023, 2:02 PM
@Vigor - Yeah, I mean, I get what they were going for. I just think the selection of characters and having more of a plan for them in the short term would have made all the difference. I'm not sold on the fact that we needed She-Hulk at all. And while I think Moon Knight is necessary, they didn't make him feel like he was. And they should have had some kind of Midnight Sons team already planned out and working towards before introducing him.

Like the Avengers, we need multiple projects every year that all build toward the same thing. If they want Midnight Sons/monsters, we need Midnight Sons content building to it every year. Whether it's a show or a movie.

But what you can't do is just throw one character out there and then let it sit for years before we see anything else building that world.

It looks like a lot of these characters may team up as the New Avengers in Secret Wars. But they sure haven't don't anything to make them feel like that.

And the bad writing is there. I won't say all the MCU is awful right now. But when I compare the amount of projects I liked in the Infinity Saga to the amount I've liked in Phase 4 and 5, it's not even close.

And most frustrating of all? While they are playing these games, they're actively sitting on Fantastic Four and X-Men lol. They could have shelved all these other characters and focused on getting the F4 out of the box first. Or replaced these solo shows with content building towards the X-Men.

BeNice123
BeNice123 - 10/23/2023, 11:47 AM
Yeah, the guy wanted to go Dark and Serious for the Hulk. His version. Idk about that. Feigi made a good decision, but, Norton is still a better actor than Ruffalo.
Matchesz
Matchesz - 10/23/2023, 11:52 AM
@BeNice123 - the Hulk is suppose to be dark and serious otherwise he’s just Disneys big green mascog with no personality
BeNice123
BeNice123 - 10/23/2023, 11:56 AM
@Matchesz - yeah you right, and thats what disney did with him. They turned him into a big weak mascot! I [frick]in hated that.
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 10/23/2023, 1:38 PM
@Matchesz - That is the sad state of things. They could redeem themselves by making Hulk a big brute again with a WWHulk or a fight with Wolverine in the same vein as the animated short. But I doubt they would do it at this point.
micvalpro
micvalpro - 10/23/2023, 11:47 AM
Norton felt like Banner finally stepped out of the comics. I didnt like his hulk design but he would have been solid in the Avengers. Thats the only movie I actually like Ruffalos Banner. He was edgier and a little bad ass. Then they reverted to the weak little man aspect in AOU and he became a joke.
BeNice123
BeNice123 - 10/23/2023, 11:49 AM
@micvalpro - i hated that soooo much!!! I hated how they made him soo [frick]in weak…
99OPTIMISTPRIME
99OPTIMISTPRIME - 10/23/2023, 11:49 AM
Juicy stuff. I'm about to listen to the audiobook soon. The Ed Norton stuff is still weird to me. That there was that much tension behind the scenes of the 2008 Hulk movie. Sometimes personalities just clash, I guess.
Usernametaken
Usernametaken - 10/23/2023, 11:51 AM
I was today years old when I learned that Joss Whedon worked on Agents of Shield.


I'm pretty sure a third name is missing on that list, and that's Ike Perlmutter's.
Havenless
Havenless - 10/23/2023, 12:34 PM
@Usernametaken - Avi Arad is the biggest one. Feige basically blocked him from being a part of the new Spider-Man movies
dracula
dracula - 10/23/2023, 11:53 AM
Wonder how much Whedon was involved in Agents Of Shield

I remember watching the first season, waiting for Whedon to direct another episode, but all he directed was the pilot and his brothers were the actual showrunners.
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