Martin Scorsese Continues To Hate On Superhero Movies; Expresses Concerns "They’re Taking Over The Theaters"

Martin Scorsese Continues To Hate On Superhero Movies; Expresses Concerns "They’re Taking Over The Theaters"

The Irishman director Martin Scorsese isn't backing down when it comes to his thoughts on superhero movies, and he's now expressed concerns with how much space the genre is taking up in theaters...

By JoshWilding - Oct 21, 2019 02:10 PM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Studios
Source: The Hollywood Reporter
Martin Scorsese is still doing the rounds to promote The Irishman, and, well, it doesn't look like he's softened his stance on superhero movies, despite the backlash to his recent comments! 

Ultimately, it seems like his biggest issue is the way theaters now prioritize the genre over smaller releases. "The key that I’m hoping for is for theaters to continue to support narrative cinema of this kind," he said, referring to his latest movie before referencing filmmakers like Noah Baumbach, Wes Anderson and Paul Thomas Anderson.
 
Scorsese then doubled down on what moviegoers now perceive to be "cinema," and explained that "the theaters support the films. But right now the theaters seem to be mainly supporting the theme park, amusement park, comic book films. They’re taking over the theaters. I think they can have those films; it’s fine. It’s just that that shouldn’t become what our young people believe is cinema."

"It just shouldn’t,"
he concluded.

It seems massively unfair to dismiss the likes of Avengers: Endgame and Iron Man as not being cinema. After all, how does more work and love go into The Irishman than, say, Thor: Ragnarok?

Image result for thor ragnarok gif

That looks pretty cinematic, right?

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we want to see on the big screen in Marvel's Phase 5!

The Ultimates

Ultimates


Marvel Studios appears to be setting the stage for The Ultimates to assemble on the big screen, as most of the team has been cast and the rest (aside from Blue Marvel) are either on the way or rumoured to have a role in a future MCU project. 

This group didn't last for long, but their mission was to tackle cosmic foes who posed a threat to the Earth. With Thanos gone and Earth's Mightiest Heroes "disassembled," it would definitely be fitting for this powerful team to come together to try to protect the planet from alien threats.

Captain Marvel is way too overpowered to be part of a regular team of Avengers, so this might be the best possible place for her, especially if it ends up involving the Kree/Skrull War! 
 

Young Avengers

Patriot


The stage is clearly being set for the Young Avengers, and you have to believe we'll see them on screen at some point in the near future. Avengers: Endgame aged up Cassie Lang and laid the groundwork for her to become Stature, while Hawkeye is coming to Disney+ in the next few years.

Speed and Wiccan, meanwhile, are expected to factor into WandaVision, and while we've heard nothing about Patriot or Hulkling, there are a number of places they could show up (if Captain Marvel 2 deals with the continuing Kree/Skrull War, that's definitely a place we could meet the latter).

The question is, will we see this team on the big screen or the small one? 
 

New Avengers

New-Avengers


There have been a few different iterations of the New Avengers and it would be no bad thing for Marvel Studios to take inspiration from pretty much all of them. Made up of characters you wouldn't necessarily associate with Earth's Mightiest Heroes, seeing the likes of Spider-Man, Wolverine, and Doctor Strange assemble would be great fun, and a potential box office smash.

If the Dark Avengers are coming to the MCU (we'll get to them a little later), then the team of New Avengers who were fugitives on the run have the potential to be a unique new story for Marvel.

Either way, it's clear that something "new" has to be done with this team, so heading down this route and potentially giving some of those Netflix heroes another chance could be a really smart move. 
 

Secret Avengers

Secret-Avenegrs


The Secret Avengers were essentially a different version of X-Force but with members of The Avengers rather than the X-Men. Some fans loved the concept while others hated it. but it was definitely interesting seeing these characters tackle black-ops style missions rather than world-ending threats.

The issue with a group like this is that it somewhat robs the team of what makes them special, but a Disney+ series or movie featuring heroes like Blade, Moon Knight, and even the likes of War Machine and Shang-Chi would be a novel concept as they assemble to take on an enemy every bit as dangerous as Thanos, albeit in a different way (Dracula, for example). 

This probably wouldn't be a priority, but it's something Marvel could consider exploring one day. 
 

Dark Avengers

Dark-Avengers


Now that Marvel Studios and Sony Pictures are playing nice again, you have to believe that there's a chance Norman Osborn could be introduced and that he'll end up leading the Dark Avengers.

It's hard to say which characters could fill out that team (the studio does have a habit of killing off its villains), but moving the MCU into a different era of storytelling where an opportunist like Osborn is able to make himself the world's greatest hero is very relevant to today, and something that would present a lot of new challenges to the real heroes.

Rumour has it that Marvel has been sitting on a Dark Avengers script for years, and a villain-led movie would be a refreshing change of pace from what we're used to seeing happen in this shared world.
 

All-New, All-Different Avengers

All-New-All-Different


Another short-lived iteration of the team, the All-New, All-Different Avengers was made up of new versions of classic heroes like Captain America, Iron Man, and Thor along with younger heroes like the Miles Morales Spider-Man, Ms. Marvel, and Sam Alexander's Nova. 

With Sam Wilson about to suit up as the new Captain America and Jane Foster's transformation into Thor on the horizon (along with those Young Avengers members we mentioned), the former Falcon trying to bring together a brand new team of Avengers would make a lot of sense.

This could lead to a myriad of spinoffs and would kick off a bold new era for Earth's Mightiest Heroes. 
 

A-Force

A-Force


This week alone, Brie Larson, Scarlett Johansson, and Elizabeth Olsen have all talked openly about their desire for a female-led Avengers movie (it's also something they've discussed with Feige).

After that Avengers: Endgame moment, there's a clear desire among fans to see this happen, and with so many great female superheroes already in or coming to the MCU, this has the potential to be amazing. Captain Marvel 2 could be a solid place to introduce them, but a spinoff of their own would surely be a guaranteed box office hit.

There are some "fans" who wouldn't like this, of course, but it would be cool to see it happen.
 

The Illuminati

Illumanit


Iron Man may be dead and gone but there's no reason the Illuminati can't still come together in the MCU. While it's hard to imagine an entire movie revolving around their exploits, introducing them as a controlling force from the shadows in Phase 5 could be really cool, and might just set the stage for a whole new wave of stories (while providing different perspectives on old ones). 

Honestly, this could be a game-changer for the MCU, and their big screen debut is long overdue.

Professor X, Doctor Strange, Black Bolt, Mister Fantastic, and Namor the Sub-Mariner could all factor into Phase 5 in some way, shape or form, and fans of Jonathan Hickman's Avengers work will know that this lot can be used to great effect. Black Panther could easily replace Iron Man.
 

Thunderbolts

Tbolts


When the Thunderbolts were first introduced, they were a group of villain masquerading as heroes who had a change of heart and ultimately decided to do the right thing. Now, it's entirely feasible that they'll basically become the Dark Avengers in the MCU, and we've obviously seeing Suicide Squad-style versions of the team since then. 

Phase 5 would be a great place to introduce them, though, and there's already speculation that "Thunderbolt" Ross will recruit Yelena Belova in the upcoming Black Widow movie. 

Ultimately, it's hard to predict what direction a film like this could head in, but there are a lot of phenomenal ideas on the table from this team's many adventures and they could serve as a new rost of Avengers in many ways, even if they are ultimately outed as being the bad guys. 
 

West Coast Avengers

WCA


This feels like the most logical next step for Earth's Mightiest Heroes. While it's unlikely that the roster will be exactly like the comics, seeing the likes of Wonder Man and Tigra on the big screen is a must, while a West Coast setting for the team would definitely help hit the refresh button on the franchise.

Black Panther set up a base in California, and that's also where Ant-Man and The Wasp are based.

Avengers Tower is no more and we've never been introduced to Avengers Mansion, so moving the team outside of New York City is a logical move. Whether the movie would actually be called "West Coast Avengers" is another matter, as that title is a little cheesy. Still, there's an awful lot of great adventures this team had which could end up inspiring a fantastic big screen outing. 

Which of these teams would you guys like to see in Phase 5 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe? As always, share your thoughts on that in the comments section below!
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KWilly
KWilly - 10/21/2019, 2:18 PM
PantherKing
PantherKing - 10/21/2019, 2:26 PM
@KWilly - that one random girl in the back tho
lvcl
lvcl - 10/21/2019, 3:13 PM
HaHaHa !!! The bell rings again…



...beware the rage of grandpa Marty…

ANewPope
ANewPope - 10/21/2019, 3:22 PM
@KWilly - Damn, beat me to it xD
JonC
JonC - 10/21/2019, 6:25 PM
@KWilly - daily comments about what coulda woulda... Scorsese is turning into Zack Snyder...
BoW
BoW - 10/21/2019, 6:44 PM
@JonC - Or you guys are just easily manipulated by a certain editor that keeps posting about this stuff repeatedly in order to get clicks and trigger people. I'm amazed it still works and most people don't even notice they are playing along like puppets. Have fun!
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 10/21/2019, 2:18 PM

jarcastanon
jarcastanon - 10/21/2019, 2:18 PM
This topic has overstayed its welcome
Origame
Origame - 10/21/2019, 2:20 PM
Geez. Just leave the guy alone. He's being asked questions in an interview. Stop acting like he's actively trying to destroy comic book movies.
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 10/21/2019, 2:51 PM
@Origame - But he is mounting a campaign against them. He said they were invaders. He asked theaters to step up and stop them. And doubled down. And tripled down. This is like a hundred steps past I don’t like superhero movies.
Origame
Origame - 10/21/2019, 3:48 PM
@TheUnworthyThor - there is no campaign. Nowhere did he call them invaders. And the only reason he's "doubling down" is because we keep asking him questions in these interviews. And arent you the guy who said "don't like then don't watch"?
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 10/21/2019, 3:55 PM
@Origame - His quote “ “it's not cinema, it’s something else. We shouldn’t be invaded by it. We need cinemas to step up and show films that are narrative films.” That is a campaign to get theaters to show other kinds of films other than superhero films. That’s just what it is. A man as smart as Martin Scorsese isn’t just saying shit to say shit. He means what he’s saying. He should definitely take that advice and not watch movies he doesn’t and then don’t talk about movies he hasn’t seen.
JohnCastillo
JohnCastillo - 10/21/2019, 4:10 PM
@Origame -Actually he did call them invaders "We shouldn't be invaded by them". By him saying "It is a big issue and we need theatre owners to step up".. this doesn't sound to you like him actively trying to stop these films being shown? He is saying this to the public, lord knows what he's done behind the scenes, he has friends in high places and is one of the most highly regarded and respected directors of all time so him even just talking in that way is a big thing and a little "campain-ish" yh he's been asked loads of times now but only because of what he said before, he came out with this on his own, obviously it was gonna be a big thing and everyone is going to ask him to clarify or add to it, he can easily say "i've already spoken about that I don't need to keep talking about it" but no he clearly has a big issue with it which is why he continues saying these things. i love Scorsese by the way, probably my favourite director but man he is talking nonsense, in my opinion anyway I don't agree at all with anything he has said. I don't even care if he doesn't like them, it's the 'get them out of cinemas' talk that irritates me.
Origame
Origame - 10/21/2019, 4:14 PM
@TheUnworthyThor - thats him just saying something needs to be done. Campaigning is actually doing something. Get your facts straight.
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 10/21/2019, 4:22 PM
@Origame - Uh when a politician campaigns for a fellow politician they just go around and talk about that candidate. When a celebrity goes around talking about global warming they are campaigning for political action to be taken. They don’t need to be planting trees to be campaigning for something.
Origame
Origame - 10/21/2019, 4:27 PM
@TheUnworthyThor - you might have a point if he was going out of his way to talk about this. He's not. He's answering interview questions.
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 10/21/2019, 4:34 PM
@Origame - And if his intention wasn’t to change the way theaters conduct their business then he would simply answer something to the affect of “I’ve already addressed that, made my opinion known, next question” or do the common Hollywood thing of questions on these subjects are off limited. But instead he keeps not only repeating his opinion and going further.
deathlok1982
deathlok1982 - 10/21/2019, 4:42 PM
@Origame - Just sayin', it's going to be an uphill battle if you tell someone to get their facts straight when you can't even keep track of your own. You're telling folks he isn't campaigning, when he clearly is and you're telling folks he didn't say what he's quoted saying.

I mean, hello? is anyone there? I know there's no edit button, but after you hit the post reply button, do you feel regret? If not, I'm sorry common sense does not exist in your world.

That said, really looking forward to watching the Irishman on my couch!
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